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    BTW, didnt' Sean Elliott used to be a playoff choker, then in 99 just "turned it around"
    No, he was always a playoff choker. That he made a brilliant shot he should never have taken doesn't change that. Fortunately he couldn't get rid of the ball quickly enough in the Finals and passed it to AJ for the championship winning shot.

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    No, he was always a playoff choker. That he made a brilliant shot he should never have taken doesn't change that. Fortunately he couldn't get rid of the ball quickly enough in the Finals and passed it to AJ for the championship winning shot.

    are you insane. Please tell me when he choked except from the FT line against Houston.

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    All of his threes during the season were spot up threes. He just can't hit them when the count. Honestly, even during the regular season, he was probably like a 20% shooter in clutch situations.
    I seem to remember that he was quite good in shot-clock and end of quarter sitiuations when there was a play for him. That's because there was no option for him to put it on the floor and try for a better shot, so he knew he was going to shoot ahead of time.

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    No, he was always a playoff choker. That he made a brilliant shot he should never have taken doesn't change that. Fortunately he couldn't get rid of the ball quickly enough in the Finals and passed it to AJ for the championship winning shot.


    Really, so all those threes he made before that to claw the team out of that hole in the second half doesn't count?

    Right on

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    are you insane. Please tell me when he choked except from the FT line against Houston.
    I've got a poster of the guy on the wall next to me as I'm typing this. I love him, but I'm not going to say he's something he wasn't. You are welcome to go into the records and dig up his playoff accomplishments. You'll find him at the wrong end of a lot of playoff upsets, though.

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    Really, so all those threes he made before that to claw the team out of that hole in the second half doesn't count?

    Right on
    If shooting a lot of threes when you are way down in a single game is a sign of clutchness to you, then our definitions are different. "Turning it around" also means more than one game to me.

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    This badmouthing of Udoka's shooting reminds me of 05 when people hated eeding Speedy Claxton to come in and bail out a choking Tony Parker. Sometimes a guy just needs some experience and he will get it.

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    All I can see is that series is far from over. Our big 3 ed up first 2 games. Is it real to expect them to play this bad in next games? I'd say no. So, only thing we need is to WIN next game. After that, expirience could solve our problems.

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    If shooting a lot of threes when you are way down in a single game is a sign of clutchness to you, then our definitions are different. "Turning it around" also means more than one game to me.



    Yeah that game winner was just not clutch what so ever.

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    This badmouthing of Udoka's shooting reminds me of 05 when people hated eeding Speedy Claxton to come in and bail out a choking Tony Parker. Sometimes a guy just needs some experience and he will get it.

    Uh Speedy wasn't on the team in 05....

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    Oh and why did TP keep going over the top on those Chandler screens? Its not like Paul is Stojakovic outbthere with a 26ft J.

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    Uh Speedy wasn't on the team in 05....
    My bad I meant 03. but still - I don't think this board is giving Udoka a chance. I cringed when he put up that ill-advised hookshot, but the only way he's going to get better is by playing.

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    Yeah that game winner was just not clutch what so ever.
    Are you aware that if you mention the same moment multiple times that it still only counts as one instance?

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    My bad I meant 03. but still - I don't think this board is giving Udoka a chance. I cringed when he put up that ill-advised hookshot, but the only way he's going to get better is by playing.
    Hes had his chances and failed.

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    Are you aware that if you mention the same moment multiple times that it still only counts as one instance?

    So his play vs the T Wolves wasnt.

    His play vs the Lakers wasn't.


    no of course not.

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    but the only way he's going to get better is by playing.
    Since it's the playoffs, the only way the Spurs are going to get better is if he, for the most part, doesn't.

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    So his play vs the T Wolves wasnt.

    His play vs the Lakers wasn't.


    no of course not.
    Okay, you win. He was the clutchest guy on the team. That's why they won so many playoff series when he was the second best player on the team, right?

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    Okay, you win. He was the clutchest guy on the team. That's why they won so many playoff series when he was the second best player on the team, right?


    Never said he was the clutchest.

    Get your panties out of the wad sunshine.

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    Okay, you win. He was the clutchest guy on the team. That's why they won so many playoff series when he was the second best player on the team, right?
    what does that say about hall of famer David Robinson? Was he a choke too? your problem is not realizing the supporting cast was brutal.

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    Never said he was the clutchest.

    Get your panties out of the wad sunshine.
    Yeah, that makes your argument less stupid.

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    what does that say about hall of famer David Robinson? Was he a choke too? your problem is not realizing the supporting cast was brutal.
    Yeah, it was all those guys' fault every single year. David always stepped up big in the biggest moments, particularly before Timmy arrived.

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    calling other men sunshine is plain weird.

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    Yeah, that makes your argument less stupid.
    My arguement that sean elliott a supposed choker in the past, stepped up in 99 and became clutch is stupid?

    Right on.

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    calling other men sunshine is plain weird.

    its called sarcasm einstein.

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    Udoka needs to stop thinking so much and just shoot. Bowen too. I hate that dribble and step in for a horrible shot because they hesitated.

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