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    You want to talk politics? Lets.

    Your OP in this thread is beyond foolish. You admit your own ignorance on the subject you want to discuss in what I can only assume is some lame attempt to show that "HEY LOOK OBAMA SUPPORTERS DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIM EXCEPT HIS PRETTY SPEECHES!". Its refreshing to see such a novel and smart approach come to this political forum.

    I'm sure you've gone to an Obama rally and I'm sure your last paragraph isn't another statement based on ignorance. I'm sure your familiar what the so called "stump" and how presidential campaigns are run.

    Thsi thread was bull from the get go. If leaving politics to the big boys means leaving it to idiots like you who can't be bothered to rid themselves of ignorance and instead think they're being clever in trying to expose that same ignorance in others then by all means, have at it.
    I have followed this election pretty closely. While even Clinton was stating her stance on some issues, Obama was still pretty wishy washy and didnt answer the questions as much as he could.

    Some Obama supporters have admitted that they don't really know his stances. They say they are voting for him because he is a change and brings hope. He has yet to speak about exactly what type of change he will bring to the table. My point is that anyone who is voting for him because they enjoy his speeches is ignorant. A president could give great speeches all day, but could still suck as a president.

    I am not ignorant. You see someone started another thread about Mccains stance on issues, and why someone would vote for him. I sat there and listed all his stances and which ones I agree with and which ones I dont. Only one person on this thread has tried to it on this thread, and half of the topics were complete bull Obama speak.

    I am proud of you for at least getting past your "wut" responses. You still have a long way to go before you have a chance of staying in my league as far as an argument goes though.

    The way I see it you have 2 choices:
    1. Change your bag avatar of you flipping the camera off. Accept the fact that right now you are a bag follower who plans to vote for Obama because your friend that you really look up to is.

    2. Keep your avatar just because I advised you to change it. This would result in you staying a giant bag, but not accepting it yet. One day you will look back and realize what you are and be mad at yourself for your past actions.

    The choice is yours.

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    This n00b is pwning Mannyis hardcore.

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    I have followed this election pretty closely. While even Clinton was stating her stance on some issues, Obama was still pretty wishy washy and didnt answer the questions as much as he could.

    Some Obama supporters have admitted that they don't really know his stances. They say they are voting for him because he is a change and brings hope. He has yet to speak about exactly what type of change he will bring to the table. My point is that anyone who is voting for him because they enjoy his speeches is ignorant. A president could give great speeches all day, but could still suck as a president.

    I am not ignorant. You see someone started another thread about Mccains stance on issues, and why someone would vote for him. I sat there and listed all his stances and which ones I agree with and which ones I dont. Only one person on this thread has tried to it on this thread, and half of the topics were complete bull Obama speak.

    I am proud of you for at least getting past your "wut" responses. You still have a long way to go before you have a chance of staying in my league as far as an argument goes though.

    The way I see it you have 2 choices:
    1. Change your bag avatar of you flipping the camera off. Accept the fact that right now you are a bag follower who plans to vote for Obama because your friend that you really look up to is.

    2. Keep your avatar just because I advised you to change it. This would result in you staying a giant bag, but not accepting it yet. One day you will look back and realize what you are and be mad at yourself for your past actions.

    The choice is yours.
    Its pretty funny that you say you're not ignorant when in the first post you admit to not knowing about Obama other than those few things you posted. Obama has never been wishy washy with having to do with his stances or his voting record. Its out there. Anyone can visit his website and go straight to the issues page and have any question they have on his issues answered.

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

    Its so ing easy.

    Want more? How about a 3rd party website.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

    Jesus, he's never told us anything about what he stands for except that he's for hope and change. Sure, McCain seems to find no problems attacking him on issues and his stances on his issues, but that must be because McCain has a super secret phone line where he talks to Barak and finds out just what he stands for.

    And whats this you say? Some people voting for Barak out of ignorance? NO ING WAY! Thats gotta be a first in American politics. And this whole time I thought well informed people like you (HA!) were the norm. Its not like we live in a sound byte driven media circus where many people believe Barak is Muslim or that that he changed his name from Barry cause he hates America or any other number of bull assumptions that keep them from voting for Obama. Never. Not in this country.

    Your stupid posts reek of arrogance that is in no way deserved. Your debating skills? Sure dude, "OMG YOUR A I KNOW MCCAIN I RULE". There's a reason all you're going to get are "wut" responses. Its all you've merited.

    Thanks for letting me know that some people vote out of ignorance though. Maybe next you can tell me who the average person in this country cares for more: Paris Hilton or John McCain.

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    What is Obama's position today. Anyone heard.


    God damn McCain is going to make youtube moments so great this year.

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    cajun....no matter what manny does to his avatar he will still be a bag

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    I see the thread below about Obama's accomplishments or reasons he should get your vote. I read the first page and didn't see one listed.

    The only things I do know about his actual positions are:

    - He voted against banning partial birth abortion

    - He is for universal healthcare

    - He has mentioned having everyone pay for mortgages that people can't pay off by themselves.

    - He wants to cut and run in Iraq

    - Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery, but I cant see this being true.

    It seems he talks about Hope and Change and never talks about what he would do to solve the issues. I could tell you most of Mccain's stances on issues, but hardly any of Obamas.


    A post like this was fine in January when everyone was just getting to know the candidates, but it's already June and we went through an extended primary.

    If you're still buying into the "all he talks about is hope" meme here in June, you obviously haven't done anything to get to know his stances on issues.

    And the fact that you would even post "Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery" tells me what kind of sources you're getting your information from.

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    God damn McCain is going to make youtube moments so great this year.
    He doesn't know how to use a computer . . . .



    Youtube moments are not going to bother him.

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    - Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery, but I cant see this being true.
    Holy crap! Your sources are correct. He has mentioned reparations for slavery.

    July 23, 2007
    Obama: Fixing schools would make reparations for slavery
    Posted: 08:19 PM ET

    (CNN) – Sen. Barack Obama said fixing public schools would be reparations to African-Americans for generations of slavery, a position that won wide applause in the CNN/YouTube debate in South Carolina.

    The Illinois senator — the lone black candidate in the 2008 race for the White House — was one of three Democrats to address the issue of reparations, a question posed by a viewer in Boston. Obama told of visiting public schools in Florence,South Carolina, where dropout rates are high and some buildings date back to Reconstruction.

    "If we make the investments and understand that those are our children, that's the kind of reparations that are really going to make a difference in America right now," he said.

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    "Youtube moments are not going to bother him."

    bull , they are bothering his handlers so badly his handlers are pulling down Old Sick Senile 95% McFlopPanderKeating's videos off Internet as quickly as they go up.

    A candidate that his handlers don't want to be seen?
    Or a just candidate who daily s up and gets YouTubed?

    And you right wing bubbas thought Kerry was a weak candidate. Old Sick Senile 95% McFlopPanderKeating is DOA.

    Old John wants us to believe that he can handle the "3 AM" business, which is thoroughly supported by him being a Prime Time 24x7 superstar on Youtube.

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    "Youtube moments are not going to bother him."

    bull , they are bothering his handlers so badly his handlers are pulling down Old Sick Senile 95% McFlopPanderKeating's videos off Internet as quickly as they go up.

    A candidate that his handlers don't want to be seen?
    Or a just candidate who daily s up and gets YouTubed?

    And you right wing bubbas thought Kerry was a weak candidate. Old Sick Senile 95% McFlopPanderKeating is DOA.

    Old John wants us to believe that he can handle the "3 AM" business, which is thoroughly supported by him being a Prime Time 24x7 superstar on Youtube.

    boutons, chill. I was making a joke about the fact that the guy doesn't know how to use a computer.

    And how the can you call me a "right wing bubba"?

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    Well one thing he has a position on: He wants to raise payroll taxes on people making over $250,000.00. And raise capital gains taxes. Yeah,
    that will really help the economy.


    I love the fact too that Obama doesn't want but one town hall meeting and he wants that on the 4th of July. I think we all know why Mr. Obama doesn't like the idea of town hall meetings. No teleprompter, question would be unscripted and asked by citizens and not some professional reporter. Some question could get really dicey.
    Obama obviously just cant stand the heat. I love the idea of town meeting debates. I would love to go to one and ask a question or two. (maybe an idea for a thread, what questions would you ask).

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t...-mccain_t.html


    Ahhhh, yes. A man of hope and change.

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    Why should MY taxes go up to pay for healthcare for lazy ass people.

    You give and give and give to lazy people and you create a society that cares not to improve thier quality of life on their own.

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    Nope - no one in this country thinks Barack changed his name from Barry. No one.


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    Obama is ed. Noone white over age 30 is going to vote for him, and all the feminist es are so spiteful they will either vote mccain or not vote at all.

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    Its pretty funny that you say you're not ignorant when in the first post you admit to not knowing about Obama other than those few things you posted. Obama has never been wishy washy with having to do with his stances or his voting record. Its out there. Anyone can visit his website and go straight to the issues page and have any question they have on his issues answered.

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

    Its so ing easy.

    Want more? How about a 3rd party website.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

    Jesus, he's never told us anything about what he stands for except that he's for hope and change. Sure, McCain seems to find no problems attacking him on issues and his stances on his issues, but that must be because McCain has a super secret phone line where he talks to Barak and finds out just what he stands for.

    And whats this you say? Some people voting for Barak out of ignorance? NO ING WAY! Thats gotta be a first in American politics. And this whole time I thought well informed people like you (HA!) were the norm. Its not like we live in a sound byte driven media circus where many people believe Barak is Muslim or that that he changed his name from Barry cause he hates America or any other number of bull assumptions that keep them from voting for Obama. Never. Not in this country.

    Your stupid posts reek of arrogance that is in no way deserved. Your debating skills? Sure dude, "OMG YOUR A I KNOW MCCAIN I RULE". There's a reason all you're going to get are "wut" responses. Its all you've merited.

    Thanks for letting me know that some people vote out of ignorance though. Maybe next you can tell me who the average person in this country cares for more: Paris Hilton or John McCain.
    He may have stances posted on his website, but he shys away from discussing them in debates, speeches and interviews. I have seen his voting record it is one of the most liberal in Congress.

    Mccain is usually attacking his voting record, or reacting to Barack taking Mccains word out of context.

    I think in this election many more Republicans are informed about Mccain's stances, than Democrats are about Baracks. Republicans know what they agree and don't agree with. They also know that while MCcain isn't a great candidate he is miles better for this country than Obama. Most Democrats are much less informed and are voting for Barack because he is black, they like the way he speaks, or they buy into his hope and change message.

    I like how you insult my debating skills with a made up quote. Your candidate Barack would be proud of you for this. Are you seriously telling me what I have merited from you? I know I have merited for you to change your bag avatar, so I dont have to look at your eating grin flipping off the camera anymore.

    I see you havent changed it yet by the way. Fight the man. Apparently you first had to do this probably not spontaneously while someone was taking a picture because you thought it was hilarious. Then you had the picture uploaded to your computer or its on facebook or myspace or something. Then you thought it was a hilarious and cool idea to put it as your avatar on a message board website. And not at one time did you think it was a bag move.

    Your Paris Hilton line sums up how pathetic your arguing skills are. I think I have merited for you to quit trying to argue with me and accept the fact that I have made you look like an idiot.

    I have met people like you before. You are the guy that has a few beers and feels the need to tell everyone how drunk you are like its the first time you drank in high school. You are the guy that quotes Borat or 300 or probably even Austin Powers way too long after the movies came out. Your avatar tells it all dude.

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    He may have stances posted on his website, but he shys away from discussing them in debates, speeches and interviews. I have seen his voting record it is one of the most liberal in Congress.

    Mccain is usually attacking his voting record, or reacting to Barack taking Mccains word out of context.

    I think in this election many more Republicans are informed about Mccain's stances, than Democrats are about Baracks. Republicans know what they agree and don't agree with. They also know that while MCcain isn't a great candidate he is miles better for this country than Obama. Most Democrats are much less informed and are voting for Barack because he is black, they like the way he speaks, or they buy into his hope and change message.

    I like how you insult my debating skills with a made up quote. Your candidate Barack would be proud of you for this. Are you seriously telling me what I have merited from you? I know I have merited for you to change your bag avatar, so I dont have to look at your eating grin flipping off the camera anymore.

    I see you havent changed it yet by the way. Fight the man. Apparently you first had to do this probably not spontaneously while someone was taking a picture because you thought it was hilarious. Then you had the picture uploaded to your computer or its on facebook or myspace or something. Then you thought it was a hilarious and cool idea to put it as your avatar on a message board website. And not at one time did you think it was a bag move.

    Your Paris Hilton line sums up how pathetic your arguing skills are. I think I have merited for you to quit trying to argue with me and accept the fact that I have made you look like an idiot.

    I have met people like you before. You are the guy that has a few beers and feels the need to tell everyone how drunk you are like its the first time you drank in high school. You are the guy that quotes Borat or 300 or probably even Austin Powers way too long after the movies came out. Your avatar tells it all dude.
    Wut

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    Thank you for making this so easy for me. I have now accepted the fact that you are unable to come up with anything clever, and have resorted to typing one word. Its been fun dominating you in this argument. You have proved how deficient you are enough. You don't have to respond any more with your one word. Thank you once again. Hopefully for you, you never have to cross paths with me on another discussion again.

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    Thank you for making this so easy for me. I have now accepted the fact that you are unable to come up with anything clever, and have resorted to typing one word. Its been fun dominating you in this argument. You have proved how deficient you are enough. You don't have to respond any more with your one word. Thank you once again. Hopefully for you, you never have to cross paths with me on another discussion again.

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    Thank you for making this so easy for me. I have now accepted the fact that you are unable to come up with anything clever, and have resorted to typing one word. Its been fun dominating you in this argument. You have proved how deficient you are enough. You don't have to respond any more with your one word. Thank you once again. Hopefully for you, you never have to cross paths with me on another discussion again.
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    He may have stances posted on his website, but he shys away from discussing them in debates, speeches and interviews. I have seen his voting record it is one of the most liberal in Congress.

    Mccain is usually attacking his voting record, or reacting to Barack taking Mccains word out of context.

    I think in this election many more Republicans are informed about Mccain's stances, than Democrats are about Baracks. Republicans know what they agree and don't agree with. They also know that while MCcain isn't a great candidate he is miles better for this country than Obama. Most Democrats are much less informed and are voting for Barack because he is black, they like the way he speaks, or they buy into his hope and change message.

    I like how you insult my debating skills with a made up quote. Your candidate Barack would be proud of you for this. Are you seriously telling me what I have merited from you? I know I have merited for you to change your bag avatar, so I dont have to look at your eating grin flipping off the camera anymore.
    These are your debating skills...?

    You over-generalize, make assumptions, and create straw men to try to prove your point. I guess these can be seen as skills, but I don't know that they can be "merited" as debating skills.

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    Why do you suck so much terrorist ? And want to get fingered by Jerry Fallwells dead prick while acting like a complete liberal pussy.

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    These are your debating skills...?

    You over-generalize, make assumptions, and create straw men to try to prove your point. I guess these can be seen as skills, but I don't know that they can be "merited" as debating skills.

    That's good Peabody, i'd knew you'd be unbiased and only crack on Cajunspur for having lofty debating skills when your idealogical equal makes primate like one word responses.

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    Let's see. He wants Fathers to be Fathers, which is good.


    And he knows how to fill sand bags, which is good, but if I was him, I wouldn't give up my day job. He didn't look to proficient at at.

    So I guess he is for sandbags and Fathers.

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    Why do you suck so much terrorist ? And want to get fingered by Jerry Fallwells dead prick while acting like a complete liberal pussy.
    off ignignokt. I'm not the one who loves war but is afraid to fight in them. Get back to me when you grow a pair.

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    I served during the invasion! Does this mean I have the standing to say anything?

    (and BTW, I hate war. So does McCain. War sucks. Sometimes it is necessary, but it still sucks.)

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