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    Does NewJerSpur know one damn thing about what he's talking about?

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    I'll sign him for the full MLE and cross my fingers hoping the coaching will take. Yeah, he'll spurt that coaching out like an organ transplant. This, after a contract year. Like it's not Jackie Butler all over again.
    Smith's gotten better year after year. Jackie was an enigma with reasonable stats in his contract year. Horrible comparison.

    Still waiting to hear who you think we should sign instead, other than some unknown future all-star with our late first round draft pick

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    Does NewJerSpur know one damn thing about what he's talking about?

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    Yes, compact. Someone would have to tell Smith what the SPURS would need from him....but they likely won't get the chance to once Denver locks him up.
    Denver is going to pay double for him on top of their other contracts?

    Jack needed to be told what the Spurs wanted from him multiple times. He never really got it. But it worked out in '03.

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    Does NewJerSpur know one damn thing about what he's talking about?
    Of course not, I just became a Spurs fan a few weeks ago.

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    I don't think it'll take the full MLE to get JR, most of it but not all of it. I'd give him a shot.
    He's restricted and if Denver trades Melo, they'd probably be willing to spend MLE like money or more to keep him.

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    I don't think it'll take the full MLE to get JR, most of it but not all of it. I'd give him a shot.
    you offer it all
    a couple of teams might offer it
    or you offer a 3 year deal and let him have the player option
    then you reward him

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    I think the guy does have upside, but don't think he's a championship calibur fit for this team like Jax was.
    ROFL. Jack was one raw turnover chucker in SA.

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    Denver is going to pay double for him on top of their other contracts?

    Jack needed to be told what the Spurs wanted from him multiple times. He never really got it. But it worked out in '03.
    Apparently he got enough of it. Denver has already tried to move Melo.

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    CAP GEEKS
    is there a way to front load the mle deal?

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    Apparently he got enough of it. Denver has already tried to move Melo.
    Denver is moving Anthony for this guy and yet the Spurs shouldn't make a run at him? Huh?

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    Finely is a SF, not a SG....don't let the shooting part fool you.
    Holy ing . Get off his damn player page on nba.com and recognize he's a shooting guard in San Antonio.

    Or are you telling we started four forwards this year.

    Bruce Bowen was our starting SF, Finley our starting shooting guard.

    You can call Finley whatever the you want, you can call him a center for all I care.

    Bottom line, here's our lineup:

    PG: Parker
    SG: Finley
    SF: Bowen
    PF: Duncan
    C: Thomas

    Right now our SG situation needs a lot of work with an ancient Finley (who I hope to God isn't back) and an aging/injured Manu going into an Olympic summer.

    As Marcus said, no one's looking for someone to have the ball in their hands in the fourth of game 7 of the Finals, they're looking for a guy to put up points and keep the wear and tear down on Manu for the regular season.

    This guy fits the bill.

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    Jack patented the crossover, off the foot, out of bounds and crossover/strip the ball moves. He has improved his ball handling post-Spurs.

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    The ONLY thing Jax has on JR is height and body mass.

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    Yes, compact. Someone would have to tell Smith what the SPURS would need from him....but they likely won't get the chance to once Denver locks him up.
    Denver has 5 players under contract for next year that make $65M combined. That's 5 players taking you right up to the luxury tax. They still need to sign another 8 players, ALL costing them the tax, to fill out their roster. Even at minimum salaries, that's probably another $10 M, and your whole bench is minimum salary guys. If we sign him to the MLE, they pay double to match. They simply will not be able to completely offload enough salary in 2 weeks. Everyone is going to want to send back contracts, even for Carmelo.

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    Many here get mighty defensive about J.R., but nevertheless....

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    He's restricted and if Denver trades Melo, they'd probably be willing to spend MLE like money or more to keep him.
    They'll still have to take back contracts and be in Cap .

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    I think the guy does have upside, but don't think he's a championship calibur fit for this team like Jax was.
    Stephen Jackson was a bench discard who averaged 2 points per game the last three months of the year before he came to SA. Then he went to Spurs U. for a year sitting at the end of the bench with tendinitis of the knee or whatever the the flavor of the month injured list excuse was.

    Like I said, some folks have a short ass memory.

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    Smith's gotten better year after year. Jackie was an enigma with reasonable stats in his contract year. Horrible comparison.

    Still waiting to hear who you think we should sign instead, other than some unknown future all-star with our late first round draft pick
    That's such a tired debate ploy... oh yeah, what'd you do, huh? Well, I wouldn't keep doing what we're discussing doing. That's the issue, yeah?

    But anyway, since you asked...

    I'd rather hang onto the money if JR Smith at the MLE is the other option. Unless, say, you live in fairy tale land and Rumplestiltskin comes and steals your mother's soul unless you spend that last chunk of millions on a headcase. But then that's the kind of logic employed by Smith arselickers around here. Moonie eyed dingbats.

    I'd take Diop before him.
    Take a look at Siskauskas.

    The better idea is to split the money up like usual, but this wouldn't occur to you, I guess.

    Pietrus is a better option. At least he could contribute, although I'm not a big fan. Smith won't contribute to much of anything. I'm happy to be wrong, but I doubt I will be. The Spurs have clearly defined by their words and activities the players they like to have in their organization. Seriously seriously doubt even now they go against that. Butler is exactly the Smith-type in character: completely self-absorbed and without understanding of team goals and initiatives beyond himself.

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    They'll still have to take back contracts and be in Cap .
    Right. They're screwed regardless. Which makes them less likely to match an offer to Smith.

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    Many here get mighty defensive about J.R., but nevertheless....
    Any defensiveness pops its head into the picture when complete morons like you start entering the discussion.

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    if spurs had jr this year instead of booner
    they would be up 2-0 against boston

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    The ONLY thing Jax has on JR is height and body mass.
    Wow. Other than the fact that he's a tremendous player in this league, does things other than hit shots, is a team leader, rebounds, plays defense, passes the ball, hustles, and cares about winning.

    Other than that, practically brothers.

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    Stephen Jackson was a bench discard who averaged 2 points per game the last three months of the year before he came to SA. Then he went to Spurs U. for a year sitting at the end of the bench with tendinitis of the knee or whatever the the flavor of the month injured list excuse was.

    Like I said, some folks have a short ass memory.
    Sure. We'll revisit this entire debate when Smith is not wearing a Spurs Jersey next season. How's that?

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