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    i want to see a defensive tone from the start. Ratliff, bogans and hill. If they have to start to help set the tone then i am all for it.
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    Like I said a few posts ago if TP is that gassed then he needs to come in off the bench when he comes back.

    I want to see a defensive tone from the start. Ratliff, Bogans and Hill. If they have to start to help set the tone then I am all for it.
    I agree 100%, but do you really think Ratliff would start if he hasn't gotten any minutes?

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    Why did Parker only play 11 minutes??
    Tony Parker suffered a sprained ankle in the first half and is not expected to play in the second half.

    Jeff McDonald: X-rays on TP were negative. Team source says initial diagnosis is doesn't seem to be too serious.

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    WAY too early to panic. If we had just played well in the first quarter we prolly get the win. Sucks to lose but it's freaking November the 6th.

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    I agree 100%, but do you really think Ratliff would start if he hasn't gotten any minutes?
    Ratliff only needs to play 5 minutes or so to get the game started. When teams look at him walking out there that will make a difference compared to seeing Bonner trot out there.

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    Ugh yeah, but we're not winning a championship with Tony Parker coming off the bench and not closing games

    His defense is just something he needs to work on. He's not going to be blocking shots like Hill but he can get some more steals

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    I agree 100%, but do you really think Ratliff would start if he hasn't gotten any minutes?
    Pop would never start him, but I think he would be a great compliment to Timmy, I would love to find out what they could do together.

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    Good loss...and the "losing" part pretty much happened in the first quarter.

    RJ, Dice, Bogans, Hill all looked solid.

    Now that we've helped both Utah and Portland exorsize their ing demons and feel all nansy-pansy about themselves, we can stop being the Charlie Browns of the NBA and play some more ing defense...like we did in the second half of that game.

    I'm impressed as we cut it as close as we did.

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    Ugh yeah, but we're not winning a championship with Tony Parker coming off the bench and not closing games

    His defense is just something he needs to work on. He's not going to be blocking shots like Hill but he can get some more steals
    I don't think anyone is alluding to Tony get benched when they mention starting Hill.

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    Ugh yeah, but we're not winning a championship with Tony Parker coming off the bench and not closing games

    His defense is just something he needs to work on. He's not going to be blocking shots like Hill but he can get some more steals
    Agreed...but I'm not even concerned about steals. I would like to see him keep his man from getting penetration and contest shots a lot better.

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    Ugh yeah, but we're not winning a championship with Tony Parker coming off the bench and not closing games

    His defense is just something he needs to work on. He's not going to be blocking shots like Hill but he can get some more steals
    lol are you re ed or something. Where the did I say have TP on the bench the whole season?

    He needs to watch Hill play defense for a few games and then when he's feeling fresher he can start again. If he's too gassed to start why play him out there and watch the other PG work him over all game?

    I think it would be good for him.

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    Pop would never start him, but I think he would be a great compliment to Timmy, I would love to find out what they could do together.
    Oh I'd love it too. A long guy like Ratliff or even Ian would be great alongside Timmy, even if Ian isn't good. Just the size and shotblocking ability would be nice to see instead of Bonners lameass out there

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    Oh I'd love it too. A long guy like Ratliff or even Ian would be great alongside Timmy, even if Ian isn't good. Just the size and shotblocking ability would be nice to see instead of Bonners lameass out there
    It only has to be for a few minutes. Then you can bring McDyess or Blair out there.

    Bonner I don't want out there at all unfortunately.

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    Updated.

    Roy lifts Blazers over Spurs

    PORTLAND -- The Portland Trail Blazers are still looking for the big knockout punch to go with their jabs, and they're still looking for a way to do it without having to put all their weight on Brandon Roy.

    But they are no longer looking for a way to stop their embarrassing two-game home-court losing streak after shoving the San Antonio Spurs out of the way 96-84 at the Rose Garden.

    The game had all the possibilities of a Portland blowout. The Blazers exploded for 29 first-quarter points, and the experiment of starting Andre Miller at point guard worked to coach Nate McMillan's satisfaction.

    Then the Spurs lost Tony Parker to a sprained ankle in the second quarter and a packed Rose Garden house was in full throat for the kill.

    The Blazers appeared ready to cooperate: They had a 15-point lead after one period and led by 17 twice in the middle of the third quarter.

    But the Spurs banged and thumped their way back into the game in tiny increments. An 8-point run in the middle of the last quarter put them within three points at 75-72, and if Richard Jefferson makes a free throw with 2:57 left they're within two.

    That was where it ended, though. McMillan called for Roy to handle the ball into the Blazers' offense and the team settled back into the right rhythm.

    "It was a good win for us," McMillan said. "We've been trying to find our rhythm. I felt like we haven't played well even though we had two wins, and tonight I felt like we had good rhythm.

    "The offensive execution, the movement was better. We got the tempo we wanted."

    That was another way of declaring an experiment in his starting lineup a success. McMillan started Andre Miller for Martell Webster, and was quick to give himself an A for the idea.

    "I thought we got more from him," he said. "He got everybody involved, a lot of communication, and just looked in sync even though that (unit) hasn't played a lot together.

    "I'm going to take a look at that lineup again. In the next week or two, maybe, we'll stay with those guards."

    McMillan also gave Miller credit for calling the offensive sets that drew the best game of the year out of Greg Oden. The big guy hit 6 of 9 field goals for 14 points and had 4 blocks to go with 8 rebounds.

    Roy, who scored a game-high 24 points and settled the team in the final five minutes, was open to the idea, too.

    "It was a change of pace," he said. "Maybe it was something that we needed."

    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich was discouraged with his team's slow start.

    "We turned it over and couldn't score," he said of the 15-point hold his team dug for itself, "and played poor defense at the same time. We got beat on the boards like we have been."

    It looked a little like the Spurs' Thursday night game at Utah. The Spurs played more or less evenly after the first period and nearly got back in the game.

    "From the second quarter on," Popovich said, "we competed, we were physical, a lot of guys did a good job for us defensively. We didn't make shots very well, but I'm not that concerned about that. "I'm happy with what I saw defensively. It was a step in the right direction." In the matter of the Spurs' second-half comeback, McMillan said that it was a matter of the Blazers losing focus. "We were attacking," he said, "then we stopped attacking and started isolating and going one on one."
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    Well, Pop did pretty much stick with a defensive rotation for the remainder of the game, so, in that, I'm thankful. Like I said before, the defensive pendulum finally looks like it swung in the right direction.

    Parker going out actually helped them in the short term, as in this game, but with the way Tim's looking and how far Manu is from being Manu, let's hope Parker's injury doesn't keep him out more than a game or two; these guys need court time together and individually.

    I'm not real happy with the result but at least there were some positive signs..

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    Oh man, I would have loved a win but the defense made me my pants of what could be. The game was ugly as and made me have a flashback to the old Spurs in a way.

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    lol are you re ed or something. Where the did I say have TP on the bench the whole season?

    He needs to watch Hill play defense for a few games and then when he's feeling fresher he can start again. If he's too gassed to start why play him out there and watch the other PG work him over all game?

    I think it would be good for him.
    lol i'm re ed? dude goes off to a bad start the first few games and your talking about benching Tony Parker? benching tony parker? our best offensive player. our superstar last year, where you were probably all over his nuts

    your a lot better at hurling insults than coming up with good suggestions, good thing you're not coaching. start Hill over TP, step back and listen to yourself. moron

    we need good defense all game long. bringing tP off the bench will solve nothing. yeah, bench him so he can look up to his idol george hill lead by example which will inspire him to play defense just like his idol? you are a stupid idiot. just listen to yourself

    RJ doesn't play good defense either, should we bench him?

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    Sit Parker monday and start Hill.

    Dyess
    Duncan
    Jefferson
    Bogans
    Hill

    should be the starting 5 monday.

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    Sit Parker monday and start Hill.

    Dyess
    Duncan
    Jefferson
    Bogans
    Hill

    should be the starting 5 monday.
    if u guys really want an all defensive lineup that would be

    hill
    manu
    bogans
    duncan
    ratliff

    or

    blair
    duncan

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    Sit Parker monday and start Hill.

    Dyess
    Duncan
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    Bogans
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    should be the starting 5 monday.
    I must say I agree with you.

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    lol i'm re ed? dude goes off to a bad start the first few games and your talking about benching Tony Parker? benching tony parker? our best offensive player. our superstar last year, where you were probably all over his nuts

    your a lot better at hurling insults than coming up with good suggestions, good thing you're not coaching. start Hill over TP, step back and listen to yourself. moron
    me. I am suggesting it because he is injured. bring him back slowly. if he didn't get injured I wouldn't have said it.

    If he is tired and injured it might be better to not start him for a few games. How can you say that is a re ed idea? Don't you recall Pop bringing Tim in off the bench once before when he came back from injury??????

    I think the combination of Parker looking tired and being injured might help him to play off the bench for a couple of games and at the same time Pop can set a defensive tone with more defensive players starting. Right now we're trying to get some sort of tone set defensively, not offensively. I don't think it's a totally stupid idea. If you do tough.

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    if u guys really want an all defensive lineup that would be

    hill
    manu
    bogans
    duncan
    ratliff

    or

    blair
    duncan
    WTF

    Why the would sit down Richard Jefferson!!??

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    me. I am suggesting it because he is injured. bring him back slowly. if he didn't get injured I wouldn't have said it.

    If he is tired and injured it might be better to not start him for a few games. How can you say that is a re ed idea? Don't you recall Pop bringing Tim in off the bench once before when he came back from injury??????

    I think the combination of Parker looking tired and being injured might help him to play off the bench for a couple of games and at the same time Pop can set a defensive tone with more defensive players starting. Right now we're trying to get some sort of tone set defensively, not offensively. I don't think it's a totally stupid idea. If you do tough.
    In that context, no, it is not a stupid idea at all.

    Tony Parker shouldn't have played over the summer. Charles said it best. It's ok to play summer basketball in europe when your on a crappy team like Sacramento where it doesn't really matter anyways.

    But Pau and tony playing every summer when their NBA teams advance deep in the playoffs every season, now that's re ed. we can agree on that.

    i thought your suggestion would mean that TP would be benched, injury-aside, just cause of his lack of defense.

    And in general, he needs to adjust his game where he's not diving into the paint and falling onto the floor 3 times a game. That's probably the reason why he feels drained when he gets back on D

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    WTF

    Why the would sit down Richard Jefferson!!??
    We shouldnt

    I wouldnt

    thats IF you really wanted to go all out on defense, which would be a terrible idea

    that's why I feel (injury aside) benching Tony Parker for Hill in the name of defense would be a terrible idea. Far worse than benching RJ

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    We shouldnt

    I wouldnt

    thats IF you really wanted to go all out on defense, which would be a terrible idea
    We've won championships playing with teams that were completely Defensive minded. The league hated us. Dont forget

    that's why I feel (injury aside) benching Tony Parker for Hill in the name of defense would be a terrible idea. Far worse than benching RJ
    You were the only one saying this

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