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    With all those adjustments, Memphis was one basket from losing, one 20-foot Tony Allen two from being down 2-0, one Westbrook pull-up from being done. That's how big the talent gap is. By no means am I trying to undermine Memphis' win. I am just saying that I don't see it as a harbinger for future success. I hope I'm wrong, obviously.
    And the spurs are 3 baskets away from 3 more chips. Big whoop. To quote Terrell Suggs "there's gettin it done. And there's not gettin it done"

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    Fake-ass "MVP" Durbeta getting shut down by Tony Allen:


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    Fake-ass "MVP" Durbeta getting shut down by Tony Allen:

    He's 7 foot
    you cant guard him



    All it took was the refs not blowing their whistle and KD gets put on clamps by a guy half his height

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    Durant's only hope is to apologize to the Based God and pray he accepts the apology.

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    Durant's only hope is to apologize to the Based God and pray he accepts the apology.
    "Lil B and Tony Allen would beat me and Westbrook in a game of 21"
    - Durbeta

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    "Lil B and Tony Allen would beat me and Westbrook in a game of 21"
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    KD and Russ wouldn't even score

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    Durant scored 33 points in 43 minutes. By no means is that an "awesome" game by his standards. Don't get me wrong, I think holding KD to his average on lower efficiency is something Memphis can do reliably. But they're still playing with fire.
    Blah blah blah you're typing a lot of words that doesn't get us a good assessment of what's going on..Kevin is being defended well by Tony Allen, both off-ball and on-ball..when Kevin gets the ball on the perimeter, Memphis is making an effort to send multiple defenders and forcing KD to more unfavorable scoring opportunities..Memphis just hasn't received the necessary props..you and others keep saying "oh well Memphis is capable of playing OKC well defensively!" when it's more than that..the Memphis gameplan on defense is to throw multiple defenders KD's way if he starts to make a drive to the basket, which he usually pulls up from 5-8 feet for a jumpshot..Memphis has the size, length and talent defensively to bother KD..they're allowing Russ to go off..nobody else on OKC is stepping up to fill the void, which is a problem starting with coach Brooks..the sets OKC run and the things they want to do offensively are well defended by Memphis with great game planning and very good fundamental individual defense followed by excellent team defense..

    Essentially, basketball is a game of coin flips. Memphis is trying to win the coin-flipping game by limiting the number of flips, while OKC wants more flips. Memphis has worse odds on each flips, but they stand a better chance to win the majority of flips if there are fewer. But they still don't stand a great chance. They had to win a freakishly high number just to squeak by last night.
    No offense but this is such a stupid forced analogy..the playoffs are all about matchups and what come from them..Memphis is a nightmare matchup for OKC and has been for years..now that they have a competent coach who has instilled an offense that utilizes the versatility and ability of their bigs, they're doing work..playing a favorable matchup against a team that has a clueless coach on the bench, you get outcomes like yesterday..

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    Their coach has not installed any kind of offense that is consistently reliable. There's a reason they struggle on offense so badly...they lack offensive talent & scheme. He's doing about as good as he can with what he has I guess, but he's relying on a really gimmicky system where they run a lot of PnR with guys who are just ok at it and they rely on a lot of statistically bad shots. Not only that, their plan (and Joerger admitted this) is to run the shot clock down as much as possible to shorten the number of possessions. Shortening the game is one thing, but running down a shot clock and then relying on players who aren't good creators to essentially make something happen is a tough proposition.

    Sure, he got creative with some back screens/picks and cuts, but overall, their offense is pretty basic and really limited. They have bigs who can score, but that doesn't mean his offense leads them to quality shots consistently.

    Outside of Indy/Chi, they are easily the worst of all offensive teams in the NBA playoffs. Doesn't mean they aren't a tough team, but that's just the truth. I also think Joerger should play his shooters a little more (Mike Miller) but it's tough with their offensive lack of talent and strategy to shorten the game to such extremes.

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    Their coach has not installed any kind of offense that is consistently reliable. There's a reason they struggle on offense so badly...they lack offensive talent & scheme. He's doing about as good as he can with what he has I guess, but he's relying on a really gimmicky system where they run a lot of PnR with guys who are just ok at it and they rely on a lot of statistically bad shots. Not only that, their plan (and Joerger admitted this) is to run the shot clock down as much as possible to shorten the number of possessions. Shortening the game is one thing, but running down a shot clock and then relying on players who aren't good creators to essentially make something happen is a tough proposition.

    Sure, he got creative with some back screens/picks and cuts, but overall, their offense is pretty basic and really limited. They have bigs who can score, but that doesn't mean his offense leads them to quality shots consistently.

    Outside of Indy/Chi, they are easily the worst of all offensive teams in the NBA playoffs. Doesn't mean they aren't a tough team, but that's just the truth. I also think Joerger should play his shooters a little more (Mike Miller) but it's tough with their offensive lack of talent and strategy to shorten the game to such extremes.
    I agree. But if they do they will need Tony Allen for defensive purposes who is limited on offense (but has played relatively well through 2 games).
    I doubt Memphis can win this but for the Spur fans that are scared of OKC at least they will make them work for it as will the next team.
    Spurs should beat Mavs in 5.
    OKC is probably at least playing 6.
    Hou/Portland has a good chance at going 6 or more.

    Spurs in a great spot, only Miami is in a better one.

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    Winning in okc is always a

    and it took a miracle 4 point play and missed free throw for them to even force overtime
    I know. I am saying, though, that I don't think Memphis has figured out how to beat OKC just because they won yesterday (and no, I'm not forgetting last year). I think in order for them to beat the Thunder, they're either going to have to continue to get lucky with guards making shots at 60%+ or do something completely different. I think it was much more about a prideful team not wanting to lose than it was about match-ups.

    And the spurs are 3 baskets away from 3 more chips. Big whoop. To quote Terrell Suggs "there's gettin it done. And there's not gettin it done"
    Again, I'm not trying to delegitimize the win yesterday. I am simply giving my opinion on what it means for Memphis' chances to having future success in the series.

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    He's 7 foot
    you cant guard him



    All it took was the refs not blowing their whistle and KD gets put on clamps by a guy half his height
    Tony is a really good defender.
    When he was with the Celts someone on here argued I was overrating him because he did a good job on Kobe.
    With a "lax" whistle he can do as good a job on a perimeter star as anyone, including Lebron, PG or Iggy.

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    Blah blah blah you're typing a lot of words that doesn't get us a good assessment of what's going on..Kevin is being defended well by Tony Allen, both off-ball and on-ball..when Kevin gets the ball on the perimeter, Memphis is making an effort to send multiple defenders and forcing KD to more unfavorable scoring opportunities..Memphis just hasn't received the necessary props..you and others keep saying "oh well Memphis is capable of playing OKC well defensively!" when it's more than that..the Memphis gameplan on defense is to throw multiple defenders KD's way if he starts to make a drive to the basket, which he usually pulls up from 5-8 feet for a jumpshot..Memphis has the size, length and talent defensively to bother KD..they're allowing Russ to go off..nobody else on OKC is stepping up to fill the void, which is a problem starting with coach Brooks..the sets OKC run and the things they want to do offensively are well defended by Memphis with great game planning and very good fundamental individual defense followed by excellent team defense..
    I didn't ignore Allen's defense Durant at all. I said I think that is part of Memphis' game plan that they should be able to count on, as in it wasn't a fluke. I was saying that Durant had an average game in Game One, and statistically he did. Now, was it a good one considering Allen's defense? Maybe, but I still don't think it was. All it takes is Allen getting into foul trouble (which he almost stupidly did last night by picking up ticky-tack calls helping on driving guards) and Durant can go for 40+. That's why I said Memphis was playing with fire, because if their best efforts are "holding" KD to his average, there is a real risk he will burn them eventually. Durant is the second-best player in the world. No one will keep him down forever.

    As for the rest of your post, we know the bigs are helping Allen defend Durant. There's a reason Memphis' front court is the first reason people use to explain their defense. It's similar to what the Spurs did against the Heat in the Finals. No one's overlooking that Memphis has a good defensive game plan.

    No offense but this is such a stupid forced analogy..the playoffs are all about matchups and what come from them..Memphis is a nightmare matchup for OKC and has been for years..now that they have a competent coach who has instilled an offense that utilizes the versatility and ability of their bigs, they're doing work..playing a favorable matchup against a team that has a clueless coach on the bench, you get outcomes like yesterday..
    The analogy is oversimplified, but it is accurate enough. Memphis is an inferior offensive team. They limit possessions because they have a hard time scoring consistently. They try to slow down the game and get the best shots they can while also limiting the number of shots the opposing team takes. I don't think anyone would argue with that. The extension of this is that the Grizzlies are playing probabilities. They are hoping superior offenses will miss enough shots (due to Memphis good defense) that their offense can match them. Chicago is the same way. That strategy can win a lot of games against inferior compe ion, but against teams whose offenses can generate points under pressure, it greatly reduces the margin of error Memphis has.

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    Chinook it's not simply trying to limit shots. It's limiting the easy shots. Even against Memphis OKC is scary as in transition. They are keeping them in the half court where their talented defenders can have an impact and Brooks' lack of a good scheme is getting exposed. Look at the last spurs thunder game. In the first half the pace was slow, our turnovers were low, and despite a bad offensive half from Duncan, we held a lead. In the second half we started turning it over and the pace picked up.

    Not only is slowing the game down "decreasing the number of coin flips" but it's also giving okc a less favorable coin. I'm not picking Memphis to win this series, but they can easily push this to 6 or 7

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    Tony Allen looks like RonDamon tbh


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    Chinook it's not simply trying to limit shots. It's limiting the easy shots. ...

    Not only is slowing the game down "decreasing the number of coin flips" but it's also giving okc a less favorable coin...

    I know. I covered that part when I said the Grizzlies are hoping their defense makes the opposing offense miss enough shots to allow Memphis' offense to keep up.

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    Tbh, lets just be glad this isn't a thing in 2014.

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    I know. I covered that part when I said the Grizzlies are hoping their defense makes the opposing offense miss enough shots to allow Memphis' offense to keep up.
    For three of the four halfs so far, OKC has looked very uncomfortable tbh

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    Grizz gonna do work on these primadonna's.

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    Go Grizz tbh

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    crofl Perk ing even before the game starts

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    Grizz can't hit again...

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    Fat Gasol doin work doe

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    refs

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    beta

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    it's early, but apparently Scotty thought he didn't need any adjustments?

    They should go to the rack more when fat gasol isn't out there, IMO.

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