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Yes, that is it. He can't do the things that are necessary for him to shoot in the nBA like he did in college. Still Houston misread his overall abilities.
It's not about if he can shoot, it's about if he's capable of creating enough separation to get the shots up.
Which he's not because he's undersized and unathletic.
Yes, that is it. He can't do the things that are necessary for him to shoot in the nBA like he did in college. Still Houston misread his overall abilities.
that's not really what I get from his takes. It's more like there's not much of a dropoff from 7 to 40. There are nice role players to have even in the 2nd round, it's just hard to get the draft order right. A player like CMB has been mocked end of the first round, but he's actually more skilled than Asa Newell who's younger and mocked in the top 10.
how about a strong 6'9'' forward with a 7'2'' wingspan and an NBA body who shoots 44% from 3?
I mean, I’ve directly heard him say he’s having a rough time finding 14 guys worthy of a lottery pick. He and Bryce seem to like the Top 5, then from 6-15 it’s pretty rough, then there are some guys who are interesting prospects in the back half of the first. They don’t think there is much of a drop off from 7 to 40, but not because there are 30 guys worth a lottery pick, but because they guys in the back half of the lottery AREN’T graded as high as most lotteries.
In terms of the top 5 prospects.
Cooper Flagg is a given if Spurs somehow get the number 1 pick.
If the Spurs get the 2nd pick, Harper is easily the second best prospect but the fit isn’t ideal. Fox-Harper-Castle starting is slightly undersized and lacks shooting. Spurs probably look to trade down to 3 and get a future first round pick if the number 3 team needs a lead creator. Such as Washington, Pelicans (Dejounte is not the long term answer), Raptors, Utah. It’s only really the Hornets in the bottom 5 teams who don’t need Harper because of LaMelo.
If the Spurs get number 3 I think Edgecombe is a slightly better prospect than Bailey but again the fit isn’t ideal same issues as Harper. I would gladly take Ace Bailey. But agree he doesn’t have superstar upside. I think he can be a slightly more athletic Brandon Ingram. You then really need the second wing to be able to defend at a high level because Bailey won’t be that guy.
No way the spurs draft Kasparas imo. Not enough upside to overcome the sub optimal fit next to Fox and Castle.
Having said all the above, it’s still not a given Castle is the long term 2 he still needs to show progression so the Spurs could still take Harper or Edgecombe. But I don’t see them taking a 1 or 2-guard outside these top 4 prospects such as Kasparas, Tre, Kon etc.
He’s only inept on offense if your definition of inep ude is “not being able to create his own shot.” But if you expand your definition of offense to include ability to catch lobs, clean up misses, finish at the rim off the pick and roll, then this guy is absolutely elite on offense. He could legitimately shoot 60% from the field off these alone.
Pick one and why:
A)
Fox CP3 Wesley
Vassell Champ Branham
Castle Barnes Johnson
Sochan Queen Minix
Wemby Newell Biyombo
B)
Fox CP3 Wesley
Mcneeley Vassell Branham
Castle Champ Mamu
Sochan Barnes Johnson
Wemby Sorber Bassey
C)
Fox Cp3 Wesley
Castle Vassell Branham
Knueppel Barnes Champ
Wemby Sochan Johnson
Maluach Biyombo Bassey
D)
Fox CP3 Wesley
Castle Vassell Branham
Fleming Champ Johnson
Sochan Murray Boyles Minix
Wemby Biyombo Bassey
Last edited by keithington1; 02-23-2025 at 10:14 PM.
Umm, you do know Wemby is out the whole season and to top it off today we lost to the worst team in the NBA record wise.
B
I don't want any lineup where I see Vassell listed as a starter, so A is out. Leaves you way too thin on the boards and at a size disadvantage. Queen and Asa both have significant shooting concerns.
C is a huge gamble - Maluach is 18 and his entire appeal is as a stretch center, but that could take years. If you draft Maluach you absolutely don't start him on day 1, you start him at backup center and see if he can develop his 3 5 years from now. In that case you're playing Maluach-Mamu as your backups, which is probably a disaster defensively.
D looks interesting, but I don't believe in Fleming's ability to become enough of a high volume 3 point shooter to where spacing would work. Love CMB but he only gets unlocked next to a high volume 3 point shooter, and neither Fleming or Champ or Vassell are that guy.
B is probably my preferred option. McNeeley potentially gives you the high volume 3 point shooting that you need next to Sochan. Sorber is very underrated defensively and given his FT percentage, age, and midrange touch I have hope that he can develop corner 3 eventually. He's got that combination of OREB%, STL/BLK%, and AST% that I think gives you a good intersection of functional athleticism and feel. Starting lineup is a little small but it's at least got 2 defenders and 2 shooters with the option to flex in size and shooting as needed.
LOL why are these the choices? What Front Office comes up with these monstrosity of roster constructions? Besides PATFO, of course.
Just trying to get get an idea of what the roster would look like barring a trade.
The draft rankings seems very fluid in the 8-15 range which bodes well for us having picks 10-11, barring a top 4 lotto break. Dropping below POR also provides a nice percentage increase to our lotto odds. Fox needs to get that finger fixed ASAP!
Cp3 is a free agent.
Spurs really need to just tell De'Aaron to get his surgery so he can be ready to hit the ground running next year. Not only improve their pick but also give him an out to save face instead of just not giving a and putting up crap numbers because the reason he came here is shelved for the season.
Good write-up. I will say even though he isn't the ideal fit/pick, VJ's heart/motor and aggressiveness reminds me of DWade. I think he could become a game changer.
Definitely like Harper and his game/height. Would be an interesting fit though as you said but I wouldn't be mad if Spurs drafted him and figured it out.
I'm skeptical of Bailey and his effort but the talent is there. He just needs to gain some lean muscle and learn how to take better shots. Definitely not a defender so not really a Spurs type of pick that high imo.
Spurs better get a top 4 pick because Brian DEI wrong can’t draft unless it’s a sure fire pick. I have no faith in this front office.
Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
would obviously all be heists to get into the top 4 for. I'm also really intrigued with:
McNeeley
Flemming
Lesser extent but still interesting:
CMB
Wolf
Sorber
Will Riley
Kalkbrenner
Joan Beringer
He doesn't do anything for me.
You don't like Bailey?
They are going to run a more drive and kick offense fueled by Fox and hopefully Castle. Spot up shooting and downhill ability is the most desired skillset for that offense. It is no coincidence that KJ who thrives in that going back to Kentucky is having a bit of resurgence.
There are a few of us. He’s kind of a black hole, with a fractional asst/TO ratio. He doesn’t defend well. There was a breakdown of big non-passing wings that someone did, and almost all of them bust out. The BEST case was Harrison Barnes, and I like HB, but I wouldn’t use a top 4 pick on him. GS picked him 7th,and was ready to move on by not matching his offer sheet from Dallas.
wonder if that had anything to do with kevin durant having been acquired 5 days earler
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