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    https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018...-kawhi-leonard

    The Spurs have been putting up with a lot from Kawhi’s group ... for a long time

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    Michael C. Wright’s appearance with Tom Habestroh’s podcast shed light on the Kawhi Leonard situation

    By Tanner.Bowen Jul 6, 2018, 12:35pm CDT

    Some damning new information came to light yesterday about the Kawhi Leonard situation via Michael C. Wright’s appearance on Tom Haberstroh’spodcast, with Wright shedding some light on the situation that the Spurs find themselves in. After listening to the podcast in it’s entirety, here are some of the key takeaways:
    Kawhi’s Group believes the Spurs are too controlling


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    Wright explains that a big reason for the gap between Leonard and the team is because of the perception held by Kawhi’s group that the Spurs are too controlling. However, it seems that Kawhi’s Uncle Dennis may not be the best person to evaluate how controlling someone is. Wright told a previously unshared anecdote about All Star Weekend in New Orleans in January to illustrate that point:
    Let me tell you a quick story. At the All Star game in New Orleans a few years ago. Kawhi and his people are at the hotel, which is 3 blocks away from the arena. So the Spurs are like, the security people are like, ‘We need to get you out at this time for us to be able to make it to the game on time, because it’s gonna take 3 hours to get 3 blocks, basically.’ Kawhi’s people, namely Uncle Dennis, said, ‘No, we’re not doing that because the Spurs are trying to control this situation, this is what we’re going to do,’ So they decide to leave when Uncle Dennis decides to go and they get stuck in traffic!....You know what ended up happening? These guys ended up paying the hotel to hold the car and they walked, through Mardi Gras crowds, to the arena. They had Kawhi put his hood up and they walked through those crowds to the arena.


    Wright makes the argument that, although Dennis sees the Spurs as a dictatorial en y, he has no frame of reference when it comes to how the 29 other teams in the NBA do business. On the subject of the injury that kept Kawhi out all season and the effect Dennis had on the situation, Wright says he made it worse:
    “The major component of all this is Uncle Dennis cause he sort of fans the flames. Even the Spurs will tell you behind the scenes, ‘hey did we get this right? Well we don’t know,’ because they never got a chance to go through their rehab process long enough to know whether what they were doing worked. A lot of people don’t know this, but the Spurs gave Kawhi and his camp control of his injury situation, they let them take over on August 8th of last year. People do not realize that.”
    Which brings us to the injury itself and the rehabilitation process.



    The Spurs were bystanders in Kawhi’s rehab after August 8th 2017

    According to Wright, the Spurs handed over control of Kawhi’s injury to his group back in August of last season when Leonard complained of pain from the rehabilitation exercises that the Spurs were putting him through to treat his quad. While it was reported at various points throughout the season that Spurs’ doctors were with Kawhi in New York during his rehab process, it appears that they had no input whatsoever on the treatment that Kawhi’s doctors were putting him through, which is when we can slot the story of Kawhi’s people moving him to a different part of the building when Spurs’ brass arrived.
    The reason that Gregg Popovich did not have any answers for reporters and fans throughout the season is because the process was entirely out of their hands, while also being left in the dark about it, and there is still some questions about Leonard’s health as of this writing:
    “Think about this, you go through the entire season, and Pop was asked these questions over and over and over again and I don’t think people realize this: Pop didn’t have any answers because the whole rehab process was out of his hands, he didn’t know anything. So when he’s saying, ‘You’ll have to ask his group,’ it’s not that he’s taking shots at Kawhi and his people its that he doesn’t know.”


    Notes on the Laker trade talks

    The last few weeks have brought a new phrase into the equation when discussing a potential Spurs-Lakers trade for Leonard: Godfather offer.The Spurs want a king’s ransom back in return for their superstar, and Wright detailed what he heard they were looking for from MagicJohnson, while also acknowledging that it is unlikely the Spurs get back what they desire:
    “From what I heard the Spurs wanted Brandon Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and 3 picks. But i talked to someone else and they were like, ‘No I heard 4 picks,’...Teams are not going to do that deal, and as the summer progresses I think teams are going to be less likely to do that type of deal and the Spurs are going to have to reel back what their demands are at this point.”

    The Spurs are still unsure of what to do with Leonard

    Going forward, it appears that there is uncertainty with what will happen with Leonard and the franchise, even among higher ups in the organization:
    “Even right now, as we speak, the Spurs STILL don’t know what they want to do with him. I’ve had conversations in the last couple days with very high ranking Spurs’ officials and they do not know. They don’t know if and when a trade is going to happen, they don’t know if they’re going to keep him and trying to work it out. Now their preference is to keep him and try to work out it.”
    Wright points out that there is a certain 221 million dollar super max extension that could clear all this up, at least for the moment, but after the year the Spurs just had dealing with this situation, they are fully aware of the risks that would come with handing over 30% throughout the next 5 years of their cap to Leonard:
    “My guy told me, ‘Hey i bet if we put that big check in his face, everything will work out.’ And my response to that was, “Ok that’s cool, it’ll be all kumbaya for a couple months, but what happens if Uncle Dennis or Kawhi decides they wanna pull this same stuff from his past season?”
    This would appear to confirm that the Spurs have yet to even offer the super max extension, acknowledging that it is a massive gamble to give up that much money and cap space on a player and his group that seemingly has become unpredictable and unhinged.
    In the end, Wright believes the Spurs are at a point where they will do what is best for them, not for Kawhi. Much like this entire drama has been all year though, do not expect a timetable to lay it all out for us.
    You can listen to the entire podcast here.

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    Leonard the autistic re cannot manage his life....

    He should connect with our very own Manny Pacquiao......

    my goodness

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    They let you back in pharmacy school?
    looooooool

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    These two commentators were fair:



    Unfortunate. These things happen. Lets move on.
    I’ve watched Pogoy (the guy who kicked Goulding in the nuts) a lot of times when he was in college. One of the most cerebral guys around but the kid plays dirty and gets to the other team’s heads. He’s a kid you’ll love coaching and playing with but hate going up against.

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    PATFO read about your struggles in college and decided to trade Leonard to Toronto because they found out you live in Canada. Toronto is sending Lowry, Anunoby, Pöltl, and picks to San Antonio and will be changing its team name to the Toronto Marauders as part of the deal.

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    I’ve watched Pogoy (the guy who kicked Goulding in the nuts) a lot of times when he was in college. One of the most cerebral guys around but the kid plays dirty and gets to the other team’s heads. He’s a kid you’ll love coaching and playing with but hate going up against.
    I'll be biased because I graduated from FEU (FEU-EAC) so I won't pinpoint that he's the one started the fight. But hey, he's the reason why we're the champ last 2015.

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    ing filipinos, they are like animals.

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    ing filipinos, they are like animals.

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    Here we go again. God this fanbase is ing submissive. These are the type of people who would be submissive to a with AIDS shoving a in his/her ass/vagina with a gun to their heads (with 100% intention on killing them after) and just taking it rather than even attempting to fight it off.

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    Dude that is stupid. Why wouldn't we hate the Lakers?

    For one, you were our biggest pain in the ass during Duncan's prime. Two, your team stands for the complete opposite of what the Spurs stand for. Glamour, destination city, that poaches other team's stars. A player in Kobe that was as selfish as they come and who was wrongly put above Timmy by way too many large-market catering media members. League darlings (SAC Game 6, Stern openly saying his dream finals are Lakers vs Lakers).

    Go toe to toe in your profession with someone that was handed life on a silver platter and who continues to get preferential treatment and see how much you like that guy.
    Well said!!

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    The Raptors have nothing I would be a fan of acquiring. That is with DeRozan who is a monumental downgrade. Sorry stay on the east coast, you no defense, shoot always hack.

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    I’m not the biggest Derozan fan , but i definitely choose him over the trash both the sixers and lakers have been offering

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    Derozan+Ibaka would be awesome even though we would still need a starting SF

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    Derozan+Ibaka would be awesome even though we would still need a starting SF
    Ibaka moves like he’s 50 now days and doesn’t he have a bad contract ?

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    Ibaka moves like he’s 50 now days and doesn’t he have a bad contract ?
    Ibaka is dunzo.

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    Ibaka moves like he’s 50 now days and doesn’t he have a bad contract ?
    s to the no for ibaka, he is owed 44 million the next two years. Not same player we saw in OKC.

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    I figured that seeing how raptor fans want him gone so badly

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    So you talked to marty too huh. Right on. Well... a friend of marty's is a friend of mine. Im rasta. Nice to meet ya. Let's do lunch. Peace, my nig!

    I think it was formerly called whoracle arena. A pimp named iceburg slim used to own it.


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    ing filipinos, they are like animals.
    Get over yourself

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    Calling it now, Kawhi shows up to the Clippers/Lakers game and not the Spurs game....really over this tbh

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    Calling it now, Kawhi shows up to the Clippers/Lakers game and not the Spurs game....really over this tbh
    Be really sad if that happens

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    YOUR AGENT CAN SCREW YOU OVER

    Player 1: “I have one really messed-up story involving my agent. When I was an unrestricted free agent, I was hoping to join this one team that really liked me and my agent seemed optimistic that we could figure out a deal. I really wanted to go to this team. I felt like it was a really good situation for me and checked all the boxes that I wanted. I wasn’t too involved in the talks, my agent just kept updating me every now and then on what was happening. Well, I ended up getting word from someone in the organization that my agent was trying use me to get more money for another one of his clients, who happened to already be on that team. He was telling the team to re-sign his other client at a certain amount and saying they would also be able to sign me at a discount. I was furious when I found out. I fired my agent and, for some time after that incident, I had a really hard time trusting agents who wanted to step in and represent me.”
    In basically any other industry, this stuff is plain illegal. For instance, if you’re selling a company and steer them towards one buyer over another because you stand to make more money from that buyer (say you are financing their deal), that can land you in huge trouble with regulators or courts.

    Heck, some conflicts of interest cost Goldman Sachs a $20 million fee here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...8891CW20120910

    Basically it was argued that they had a huge stake in the buyer and it influenced what they had the buyer pay for their client, the seller.

    Agents conflict disclosures seem basically non-existent. It’s a few good agents and a bunch of frauds who are trying to screw guys out of their hard earned money.

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    Calling it now, Kawhi shows up to the Clippers/Lakers game and not the Spurs game....really over this tbh
    Why lol was it reported he was going to be at summer league today?

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