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    Bonner doesn't have a prime time shot. His shooting mechanics are no good and when he is pressured his shot can come out ugly. He doesn't have a shot like Stephen Jackson that is picture perfect.

    Bonner is only a good shooter when he is left wide open. If teams actually get up on him and don't give him looks then he will be an even worse player out there.
    I like to call Bonner's shot a

    "High Percentage Heave"

    his shooting form, as you mentioned, is far from ideal but like others (Marion, etc) he's able to perfect it and work with it. but when it's not falling, it's still just a heave.

    Bonner is 9/34 three point field goal in his last 10 games in Black and White. This season he has 21 three point attempts... 16 rebounds... 0 blocks.

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    God help the Spurs if we have to rely on Bonner making shots to win games.

    Really, I just want Bonner as a role player and nothing else. If we have to depend on him, we're screwed.

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    I like to call Bonner's shot a

    "High Percentage Heave"

    his shooting form, as you mentioned, is far from ideal but like others (Marion, etc) he's able to perfect it and work with it. but when it's not falling, it's still just a heave.

    Bonner is 9/34 three point field goal in his last 10 games in Black and White. This season he has 21 three point attempts... 16 rebounds... 0 blocks.
    The thing is I don't mind an unorthodox shooter, if you recall Reggie Miller didn't have a picture perfect shot, but he could take and make his shot under pressure.

    Bonner cannot do that. All you have to do is get up on him and he's useless. lol it is the easiest strategy in the world for other teams to execute. First you leave Bonner open and if he makes some shots great because that gives him confidence and then you can use that later against him. All you have to do later is get up on him and give him a little daylight and his shot usually clanks cause his shooting style is just not good when it comes to shots that are pressured a little bit. The opposing team also knows that Pop will keep using him so it's like you're getting an unfair advantage when Bonner is out there. Everyone knows this. The only person that hasn't figured it out yet is Pop.

    Teams know that even if Bonner is making a few shots it's still good for them if the Spurs have him out there because they will feel like they can score twice as much against him on the other end of the court. The also know they can take him out whenever they want by putting a defender right up on him. Pop needs to wake up. Matt Bonner might open up the court a little bit for Tim Duncan, but he is also opening up the court twice as much for the other team offensively and putting more pressure on Tim to work harder on both offense and defense.

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    lol we dont need bonner to hit shots

    actually we dont need him on our fkn roster

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    The thing is I don't mind an unorthodox shooter, if you recall Reggie Miller didn't have a picture perfect shot, but he could take and make his shot under pressure.

    Bonner cannot do that. All you have to do is get up on him and he's useless. lol it is the easiest strategy in the world for other teams to execute. First you leave Bonner open and if he makes some shots great because that gives him confidence and then you can use that later against him. All you have to do later is get up on him and give him a little daylight and his shot usually clanks cause his shooting style is just not good when it comes to shots that are pressured a little bit. The opposing team also knows that Pop will keep using him so it's like you're getting an unfair advantage when Bonner is out there. Everyone knows this. The only person that hasn't figured it out yet is Pop.

    Teams know that even if Bonner is making a few shots it's still good for them if the Spurs have him out there because they will feel like they can score twice as much against him on the other end of the court. The also know they can take him out whenever they want by putting a defender right up on him. Pop needs to wake up. Matt Bonner might open up the court a little bit for Tim Duncan, but he is also opening up the court twice as much for the other team offensively and putting more pressure on Tim to work harder on both offense and defense.
    Yes, and we've already seen teams exploit Matt Bonner. David West and Lamarcus Aldridge went out of their way to post him.

    The announcers are right, what we're seeing now is very un-Spurs like.

    But let's have faith. Let Pop go through his brain fart/iden y crises or whatever it is. He's been benching Bonner in the 4th quarter which is a good sign. Resorting to small-ball with RJ as our PF is a good sign too.

    I hate that tacky small-ball crap that Steve Nash and the Suns pioneered, but if it gets Bonner off the court at least I can enjoy watching the games again.

    lol we dont need bonner to hit shots

    actually we dont need him on our fkn roster
    Yes, there has been an over-emphasis on his value dependent on whether or not he hits his jump shots.

    There is a strong argument out there that Bonner shouldn't be on the floor for as long as he is even if he is hitting his jump shots. What good is scoring if you can't stop teams from scoring on the other end.

    All these posters that were ferociously defending him when we were winning games should be ashamed of themselves. Most of us were consistent with our dismay with Bonner even when we were winning games.

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    Yes, and we've already seen teams exploit Matt Bonner. David West and Lamarcus Aldridge went out of their way to post him.

    The announcers are right, what we're seeing now is very un-Spurs like.

    But let's have faith. Let Pop go through his brain fart/iden y crises or whatever it is. He's been benching Bonner in the 4th quarter which is a good sign. Resorting to small-ball with RJ as our PF is a good sign too.

    I hate that tacky small-ball crap that Steve Nash and the Suns pioneered, but if it gets Bonner off the court at least I can enjoy watching the games again.



    Yes, there has been an over-emphasis on his value dependent on whether or not he hits his jump shots.

    There is a strong argument out there that Bonner shouldn't be on the floor for as long as he is even if he is hitting his jump shots. What good is scoring if you can't stop teams from scoring on the other end.

    All these posters that were ferociously defending him when we were winning games should be ashamed of themselves. Most of us were consistent with our dismay with Bonner even when we were winning games.

    Yep I agree. Even when we were winning I was still not pleased with Bonner starting or playing significant minutes. This helps the other team out more than Pop seems to know. His negatives far out weigh the few shots he makes a game.

    Don't get me wrong, but I dolike Matt Bonner, but if we're going to win we can't have him out there playing that much court time.

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    You got any suggestions Rascal?

    btw I am not ragging on you about saying Bowen is done. I think he'd be better than Finley, but yeah I might also agree that he alone won't make a big enough impact.
    Trade manu for Camby. If you want more defense bringing back Bowen who the spurs feel has lost enough to not be worth a roster spot anymore is not the solution.

    Getting stronger post defense by adding Camby would be more of an impact move. Most will cry they don't want to give up Manu but if you want an impact center you need to trade some value.

    The spurs will still have enough offensive fire power without Manu. More shots to Jefferson who still can average 20 points a game and give Hill big minutes early in the season and watch him turn into a solid all around player. Camby would also be a big offensive upgrade over Bonner.

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    Trade manu for Camby. If you want more defense bringing back Bowen who the spurs feel has lost enough to not be worth a roster spot anymore is not the solution.

    Getting stronger post defense by adding Camby would be more of an impact move. Most will cry they don't want to give up Manu but if you want an impact center you need to trade some value.

    The spurs will still have enough offensive fire power without Manu. More shots to Jefferson who still can average 20 points a game and give Hill big minutes early in the season and watch him turn into a solid all around player. Camby would also be a big offensive upgrade over Bonner.
    Manu is NOT just offensive firepower! He changes the game and gets others involved in a way that Jeff and others can't. He has a compe ive drive that no one else on our team has, an energy that he brings to the team that we desperately need.

    How can you not see this? Did you see how dead our team was acting the other night, but when Manu got rolling, everyone else was hustling.

    He's a god damn leader man. Camby would be nice to have, but Jesus, sending Manu away would be ridiculous. We already have Dice and Ratliff that should be utilized a lot more, and Tim needs to quit being a lazy ass and start hustling and blocking shots like I know he can. Pop is the main problem right now. He needs to get his together and utilize his players a lot better, and YES, bring back Bruce!


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