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  1. #15776
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    Eww Poeltl. Siakam instead, please.

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    Butler is much better than DeRozan. Does OG really tilt the scales?
    would take butler over derozan + OG.

    butler making $7 million a year less too. 2019-2020 is a player option... would rather lose butler after a year than have demar's contract on the books though.

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    It's gonna be so depressing if the Raps get DeRozan. He's beyond awful and is absolute crap when his shot isn't falling. I'd rather Kawhi walk for nothing. Raptors always looked better in the playoffs when DeRozan was on the bench.

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    maybe derozan does well in the spurs system. still not crazy about trading for him though.

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    maybe derozan does well in the spurs system. still not crazy about trading for him though.
    I agree, he's a legit scorer, but if he can somewhat improve his defense like Aldridge did then it will be a HUGE plus for us.

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    Ill take Derozan,oj, and poeltl+ 1st for kawhitter and green/mills/ pau

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    SF- Kawhi Leonard $20,099,189 (1 year)
    C- Pau Gasol $16,800,000 (2 years)
    SG- Danny Green $10,000,000 (1 year)

    Total: $46,899,199

    To Toronto FOR:

    SG- DeMar DeRozan $27,739,975 (3 years)
    C- Jonas Valanciunas $16,539,326 (2 years)
    SF- OG Anunoby $2,034,120 (3 years)

    Total: $46,313,421

    C- Jonas Valanciunas
    PF- LaMarcus Aldridge
    SF- OG Anunoby
    SG- DeMar DeRozan
    PG- Dejounte Murray

    PF- Rudy Gay
    PF- Davis Bertans
    SG- Marco Belinelli
    SG- Manu Ginobili
    SG- Lonnie Walker
    SG- Bryn Forbes
    PG- Patty Mills
    PG- Derrick White

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    SF- Kawhi Leonard $20,099,189 (1 year)
    C- Pau Gasol $16,800,000 (2 years)
    SG- Danny Green $10,000,000 (1 year)

    Total: $46,899,199

    To Toronto FOR:

    SG- DeMar DeRozan $27,739,975 (3 years)
    C- Jonas Valanciunas $16,539,326 (2 years)
    SF- OG Anunoby $2,034,120 (3 years)

    Total: $46,313,421

    C- Jonas Valanciunas
    PF- LaMarcus Aldridge
    SF- OG Anunoby
    SG- DeMar DeRozan
    PG- Dejounte Murray

    PF- Rudy Gay
    PF- Davis Bertans
    SG- Marco Belinelli
    SG- Manu Ginobili
    SG- Lonnie Walker
    SG- Bryn Forbes
    PG- Patty Mills
    PG- Derrick White
    the space in that SL is awful. Why would we want valancunias? Dude sucks

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    Eh, trading with the Raptors would be fine by me as long as it's not a straight up Kawhi-DeRozan swap. We gotta dump Pau or Patty and hopefully get Anunoby.

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    It's gonna be so depressing if the Raps get DeRozan. He's beyond awful and is absolute crap when his shot isn't falling. I'd rather Kawhi walk for nothing. Raptors always looked better in the playoffs when DeRozan was on the bench.
    i have bad news. raptors got derozan a long time ago

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    SF- Kawhi Leonard $20,099,189 (1 year)
    C- Pau Gasol $16,800,000 (2 years)
    SG- Danny Green $10,000,000 (1 year)

    Total: $46,899,199

    To Toronto FOR:

    SG- DeMar DeRozan $27,739,975 (3 years)
    C- Jonas Valanciunas $16,539,326 (2 years)
    SF- OG Anunoby $2,034,120 (3 years)

    Total: $46,313,421

    C- Jonas Valanciunas
    PF- LaMarcus Aldridge
    SF- OG Anunoby
    SG- DeMar DeRozan
    PG- Dejounte Murray

    PF- Rudy Gay
    PF- Davis Bertans
    SG- Marco Belinelli
    SG- Manu Ginobili
    SG- Lonnie Walker
    SG- Bryn Forbes
    PG- Patty Mills
    PG- Derrick White
    DeRozan is already mostly doodoo, though I could talk myself into DeMarr, Siakam and OG for Leonard and Mills, especially with future picks involved. But Val for Pau is negative for SA. The Spurs are already taking back enough made money.

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    SF- Kawhi Leonard $20,099,189 (1 year)
    C- Pau Gasol $16,800,000 (2 years)
    SG- Danny Green $10,000,000 (1 year)

    Total: $46,899,199

    To Toronto FOR:

    SG- DeMar DeRozan $27,739,975 (3 years)
    C- Jonas Valanciunas $16,539,326 (2 years)
    SF- OG Anunoby $2,034,120 (3 years)

    Total: $46,313,421

    C- Jonas Valanciunas
    PF- LaMarcus Aldridge
    SF- OG Anunoby
    SG- DeMar DeRozan
    PG- Dejounte Murray

    PF- Rudy Gay
    PF- Davis Bertans
    SG- Marco Belinelli
    SG- Manu Ginobili
    SG- Lonnie Walker
    SG- Bryn Forbes
    PG- Patty Mills
    PG- Derrick White
    Just keep Gasol.

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    I would much rather have Jimmy Butler than DeRozan. DeRozan will make spurs fans into believers in the regular season than on himself in the playoffs
    So we'd be basically trading for 2015 Kawhi?

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    Tbh, it's easier to talk myself into three years of DeRozan than it is talking myself into the Lakers trash, tbh.
    So you hate Ingram too? No one would know who the he was if he played for Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, etc.

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    DeRozan is already mostly doodoo, though I could talk myself into DeMarr, Siakam and OG for Leonard and Mills, especially with future picks involved. But Val for Pau is negative for SA. The Spurs are already taking back enough made money.
    I highly doubt they take back Mills while giving up those young players. They already have Wright and Van Vleet.

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    Yeah, why do so many people want Valanciunas? Those type of players are worthless in today's NBA. If you are a big either be a great defensive player + alley-oop threat, dominant scorer, or a stretch big. Otherwise GTFO.

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    Yeah, why do so many people want Valanciunas? Those type of players are worthless in today's NBA. If you are a big either be a great defensive player + alley-oop threat, dominant scorer, or a stretch big. Otherwise GTFO.
    Maybe they were impressed by all those missed layups in the ECF. He could fill that Charles Smith role that has been absent on the Spurs since the late 90s.

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    I highly doubt they take back Mills while giving up those young players. They already have Wright and Van Vleet.
    I highly doubt the Raps get Leonard for doodoo, but if they are, they better be willing to take back Mills.

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    I highly doubt the Raps get Leonard for doodoo, but if they are, they better be willing to take back Mills.
    I want that to happen as well but I’m saying it’ll probably have to be Danny who they’d want based on their current roster construction.

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    Minnesota not being willing to trade Butler is probably the holdup there.

    And maybe Toronto is willing to part with more assets than just OG to get out of DeRozan's contract and gain a top 5 player, while a deal with Minnesota could just be a 1-for-1, with Butler not necessarily willing to re-sign next summer.
    Agree. Minnesota should be stingier with their star players than the Spurs. When was the last big free agent signing in Minnesota?

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    the space in that SL is awful. Why would we want valancunias? Dude sucks
    Jonas Valucianas does not suck and their aren't many better centers than him. Question is whether they would like to play in SS and fit the culture.

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    Why so much talk about Toronto? Is there any proof toronto is even intrested ?

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    Man oh man I hope this happens:



    No way in he stays in Toronto. He will catch a 1-way flight to LAX next summer

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    I want that to happen as well but I’m saying it’ll probably have to be Danny who they’d want based on their current roster construction.
    But them having their ideal team isn't the main priority. They aren't giving enough as it is. It's like that Wizards fan on RealGM who kept trying to lower the Washington package for Kawhi. Didn't want to give up a pick. Didn't want to take back any money. Didn't want to swap Pau for Gortat (back then) because "Gasol's not really the center we need".

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    Man oh man I hope this happens:



    No way in he stays in Toronto. He will catch a 1-way flight to LAX next summer
    If the Spurs give up a pick in a Kawhi deal involving any less than Ben Simmons, I'll flip. Not that Poetl and OG are bad assets. But you don't pay for them when you're the team giving up the superstar.

    Also that deal's illegal without SA sending out more ballast.

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