Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Seventyniner]

If the Spurs give up a pick in a Kawhi deal involving any less than Ben Simmons, I'll flip. Not that Poetl and OG are bad assets. But you don't pay for them when you're the team giving up the superstar.

Also that deal's illegal without SA sending out more ballast.

Exactly. Flip that around to TOR sending SA a 2020 1st and we're getting closer, though not close enough for my liking.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Add siakam to that deal

[Chinook]

DeMarr, Siakam and OG (plus pick(s)) for Leonard and Mills

If the Spurs were to do the above trade, they'd have an outside chance at opening up a max slot next summer while having DeRozan, LMA, Murray, White, Walker and Beli all signed to contracts. It would involve them being able to renounce everyone else, including Bertans and Forbes, though, as well as trading away Pau's guarantee to avoid stretching him. In this scenario, the team would move on from Milutinov (or I guess stash him for yet another two years), but they'd keep their first-rounder. This is what it looks like in the Capulator with Nikola added on a three-year deal starting at the remainder of this year's MLE:

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...c030f265368840

Murray, White, (Vet PG)
Green, Belinelli, Forbes
DeRozan, OG, Walker
Siakam, Gay, Bertans
Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov

That's not a bad lineup, though spacing is an issue unless White starts for Murray.

[phxspurfan]

Man oh man I hope this happens:

No way in he stays in Toronto. He will catch a 1-way flight to LAX next summer

Wow and we have to give a 1st. F that

[FkLA]

Jonas Valucianas does not suck and their aren't many better centers than him.

Wut?

Embiid
Cousins
KAT
Capella
Porzingis
Gobert
Marc Gasol
Jordan
Horford
Drummond
Adams
Myles Turner
Jokic

PF/C Hybrids
Anthony Davis
LMA
Draymond
Love


All guys I would much much rather have over Valuncunias.

[Chinook]

Exactly. Flip that around to TOR sending SA a 2020 1st and we're getting closer, though not close enough for my liking.

It's hard to figure out what's "enough", but I had Toronto sending out Siakam, OG and a 2020 first while taking back Mills to make up the value gap between Leonard and DeRozan. Poetl may well be better than Pascal, but the latter is cheaper and makes more sense in a world where Gasol stays on the team. The team needs forwards way more than centers now, especially with Milutinov still theoretically on tap.

[marinoman]

Man oh man I hope this happens:

No way in he stays in Toronto. He will catch a 1-way flight to LAX next summer

To join the clippers

[marinoman]

So we'd be basically trading for 2015 Kawhi?

Id much prefer that to a guy we’d bench in the playoffs

[FkLA]

It's hard to figure out what's "enough", but I had Toronto sending out Siakam, OG and a 2020 first while taking back Mills to make up the value gap between Leonard and DeRozan. Poetl may well be better than Pascal, but the latter is cheaper and makes more sense in a world where Gasol stays on the team. The team needs forwards way more than centers now, especially with Milutinov still theoretically on tap.

I mean, we have to look at it from their perspective too. If they were getting the quitter long-term then I could understand having really high demands but they're not. They're basically trading for the ability to shed DeRozan's contract and start over since their core is going nowhere, the 1-year rental is just gravy.

[BatManu20]

Man oh man I hope this happens:

No way in he stays in Toronto. He will catch a 1-way flight to LAX next summer

Saw that tweet yesterday. It's from a troll account. Zero sources. And Spurs aren't giving up a pick, no matter what the deal is.

[spurraider21]

I mean, we have to look at it from their perspective too. If they were getting the quitter long-term then I could understand having really high demands but they're not. They're basically trading for the ability to shed DeRozan's contract and start over since their core is going nowhere, the 1-year rental is just gravy.

getting an elite player on a team that was just the #1 seed right after lebron leaves the east is way more than gravy. they also acquire his bird rights

[TimDunkem]

Doubt the Spurs even trade Kawhi this summer, but if I'm dealing with the Raps I wouldn't take any less than DD, Siakam ( Poeltl), OG, and a pick.

[exstatic]

If the Spurs give up a pick in a Kawhi deal involving any less than Ben Simmons, I'll flip. Not that Poetl and OG are bad assets. But you don't pay for them when you're the team giving up the superstar.

Also that deal's illegal without SA sending out more ballast.

Kawhi's a rental, and they know that. Demar has 3 years on his deal. Toronto is realistic enough to know that they're not getting a superstar, they're renting one for a year while clearing cap room.

OG Anunoby makes this worth it. 6'8" solid build, freaking 7'6" wingspan, and shot 37% on 3s last year for Toronto. That's why the pick is thrown in.

I would imagine that either Danny or Patty would be included.

[Dverde]

Spurs would have to include more in that trade package. Derozen makes 7M more than Kiwi. It would have to include Green, Patty, or Gasol unless a third team is involved.

[superbigtime]

poeltl looks like another Joff. no way spurs should send a pick.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Give em Patty too please.

[Spurs da champs]

Doubt the Spurs even trade Kawhi this summer, but if I'm dealing with the Raps I wouldn't take any less than DD, Siakam ( Poeltl), OG, and a pick.

This.

[ducks]

Leonard could be the face of Canada a whole country

[mo7888]

Kawhi's a rental, and they know that. Demar has 3 years on his deal. Toronto is realistic enough to know that they're not getting a superstar, they're renting one for a year while clearing cap room.

OG Anunoby makes this worth it. 6'8" solid build, freaking 7'6" wingspan, and shot 37% on 3s last year for Toronto. That's why the pick is thrown in.

I would imagine that either Danny or Patty would be included.

I think he's more than a rental. There is a risk that he leaves but, in the end, he'll sign with Toronto for 184M over 136M with the clips or Lakers.

[Brazil]

even for one year, I'm laughing at the idea to see Kiwi with dat ugly raptor jersey and see him freezing his balls in Canada

[JPB]

Not sure who you think I am, but OK. And again I am not a insider, have never claimed to be, have no connection to the Spurs (besides being a fan), and qualified the cir stance of the second hand information I was told

Look, as I said, I'm done with all the no lifers coming here with their mysterious "connexions" and "second hand" infos that already all over the Internet before they post it here, as Ducks proved it two minutes after you pulled your sauce.

If it can make you make live some kind of dream or fantasy. Good for you. What matters is the trade now.

[Dverde]

Give em Patty too please.

It has to be Green. They have plenty of PG and bigs. Green is expiring and would give them plenty of cap space to offer up on Kawhi or another 2019 free agent.

[superbigtime]

Derozan to be a Spur? I mean YUCK.

[TD 21]

Thinking about it some more, if it happens, I suspect it would be Leonard and Green for DeRozan, Anunoby and Poeltl (basically a young Splitter and Spurs clearly like C's in that mold). I'd rather Leonard and Mills for Lowry, Anunoby and Poeltl, though.

Lowry is 3 years older than DeRozan, but clearly better and with 1 season less left on his contract. Spurs could remain among elite in that time, then practically empty the books in 2 years, with only cap holds or entry level contracts for Poeltl, Murray, Anunoby, White, Walker, '19 and '20 1sts.

With DeRozan, they'd probably have to wait a year longer to do that, the spacing would be tighter, the defense worse and with Mills also kept, it would probably be 2 years (when Belinelli is up) to open up a rotation spot for Walker.

OG Anunoby makes this worth it. 6'8" solid build, freaking 7'6" wingspan, and shot 37% on 3s last year for Toronto. That's why the pick is thrown in.

He's closer to 6'7'' and his wingspan is 7'2.25''.

http://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-a...onYear=2017-18

[JPB]

even for one year, I'm laughing at the idea to see Kiwi with dat ugly raptor jersey and see him freezing his balls in Canada

"I'll do everything to make you happy, Kawhi"