Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[exstatic]

Toronto deal is awful-I don't wanna be stuck with DDR . . . he will opt-in to the final year of his contract and you know it.

Tobias Harris is younger (better on the 3-ball too!) and Harrell has proven himself more than these other Toronto forwards. Clippers won't lowball us . . . Jerry West is looking to add Kawhi and do whatever it takes. Tobias Harris, S&T Harrell (surprised no one has tried to pry him away) and two future firsts . . . Clippers won't be that great so those picks should be OK enough . . . maybe 18-22 range. Just need to make sure on both sides there is agreement on extensions for Kawhi and Tobias.

Get it done, RC!

Just stop. Clips barely edge the Lakers, and the Lakers offer is complete . Harris is a replacement level player, nothing more. Anunoby is better than anyone in your clippers deal, and cheap for 3 more years. Harris wants to get paid next year. Spurs would also get a plug in 20 point scorer on the perimeter to complement LMA.

You keep trying to sell this Clipper , but no ones buying.

[spursistan]

This is shaping up to be one of the worst hauls a team got for trading a legit superstar and MVP-caliber player, even assuming the rental risk in the equation.

I think it says a lot more about the toxicity of the environment surrounding the said player and the baggage that has emerged throughout his whole saga.

Dem executives aren't listening to Cris Carter and Stephen A. Smith; the background info they dug on Kawhi must be really damning for us to be getting all these ty offers ..

[Spurs9]

Don't know if he knows anything. Could just be speculating given all the rumors. But he seems to be connected within the Sixers organization.

Probably alot of inquiries going on with all of the GM's being in Vegas right now for SL.

[objective]

As bad a fit as Derozan is next to LMA, as big a choker and bad a defender, as bad a three point shooter ...

He fits the same timeline as LMA. If they can get OG and Poertl and offload Mills, maybe take Delon back, get some picks...

I guess it might be tolerable. Maybe. At least it's not the Lakers.

[Fusternino]

Just stop. Clips barely edge the Lakers, and the Lakers offer is complete . Harris is a replacement level player, nothing more. Anunoby is better than anyone in your clippers deal, and cheap for 3 more years. Harris wants to get paid next year. Spurs would also get a plug in 20 point scorer on the perimeter to complement LMA.

You keep trying to sell this Clipper , but no ones buying.

DDR is a midrange player and Tobias Harris would get at least several million per year less than a max deal. I don't see why we can't get him to buy in if we got Rudy to who is also considered a career loser.

We will continue to get lowballed by everyone. But whatever. Kawhi and his group are doubling down on LA. Either trade to the Clippers for that offer or start a bidding war.

[Fusternino]

This is shaping up to be one of the worst hauls a team got for trading a legit superstar and MVP-caliber player, even assuming the rental risk in the equation.

I think it says a lot more about the toxicity of the environment surrounding the said player and the baggage that has emerged throughout his whole saga.

Dem executives aren't listening to Cris Carter and Stephen A. Smith; the background info they dug on Kawhi must be really damning for us to be getting all these ty offers ..

He and his group intentionally destroyed his trade value. I think they are definitely concerns about his at ude and injury. Cris Carter has vehemently denied that Philly is a wanted trade destination and Ainge lowballs everybody. Start a bidding war between the two LA teams, maybe just trade to Clippers to prevent a superteam, or find a desperate team who wants him. The Raptors aren't that team, though. Other teams who would do a bad trade have more assets.

[Mugen]

Spurstalk really loves Southern California natives with mental issues

[Fusternino]

Site is having issues.

Let me give this reassurance: I'll be pushing this trade to the Clippers for the rest of the summer.

[SupremeGuy]

Done deal, tbh.

[Ice009]

What happened to Lonnie?????? Is it a serious injury?

[FireMicoHalili]

And why isn't Tobias of value? You need guys who can get their own shot and do it efficiently-he does. Harrell is already a defensive monster and I bet we could fit his FT% and get him to shoot the corner 3. And we need more forwards on this team in general and he'd also be a great small ball 5. Those 2 future picks should be of good value . . . I bet each has about the same value as the Heat 2021 pick.

In terms of teams dealing with us out of desperation/bad management/etc. I'd be most willing to deal with the Heat. I like Richardson/Adebayo/Olynyk/Winslow and two future first rounders for both Kawhi and Mills.

Eye test says Harris would be a good fit for the beautiful game and his shooting definitely helps but the Clippers have to add something. They don’t have a lot. Harrell is an RFA. There isn’t a lot of value in the roster aside from SGA and he can’t be traded for a month.

[FireMicoHalili]

What happened to Lonnie?????? Is it a serious injury?

Gimpy ankle

[offset formation]

Kawhi is not "tight" with any NBA player. Maybe for his standards, he mumbled to Simms a little more than he did to everyone else but lol at the notion that that had anything to with his unhappiness.

[SpursDynasty85]

This is shaping up to be one of the worst hauls a team got for trading a legit superstar and MVP-caliber player, even assuming the rental risk in the equation.

I think it says a lot more about the toxicity of the environment surrounding the said player and the baggage that has emerged throughout his whole saga.

Dem executives aren't listening to Cris Carter and Stephen A. Smith; the background info they dug on Kawhi must be really damning for us to be getting all these ty offers ..

Compare other super star trades. You are speaking out of context. Some big trades I can remember.

Paul George, James Harden, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Shaquille Oneal. I dorn recall any of those guys getting traded that had better deals than the ones proposed so far. Maybe Garnett, they got Al Jefferson but Garnett was for a sign and trade or at least Boston knew he was going to resign.

[CGD]

Don't know if he knows anything. Could just be speculating given all the rumors. But he seems to be connected within the Sixers organization.

DeRozen + OG + Siakam + 2021 First?

That wouldn’t be a bad haul, and actually compe ive with Phillys offer. Not a huge DeRozen fan, but he’s a good scorer anyway.

Added bonus is that to make the numbers work they'd have to take back Pau.

[baseline bum]

Just stop. Clips barely edge the Lakers, and the Lakers offer is complete . Harris is a replacement level player, nothing more. Anunoby is better than anyone in your clippers deal, and cheap for 3 more years. Harris wants to get paid next year. Spurs would also get a plug in 20 point scorer on the perimeter to complement LMA.

You keep trying to sell this Clipper , but no ones buying.

ing Tobias Harris

I'd rather get nothing and suspend the Mute than get that crap.

[Play Boban]

What happened to Lonnie?????? Is it a serious injury?

Hopefully tbh

[baseline bum]

He and his group intentionally destroyed his trade value. I think they are definitely concerns about his at ude and injury. Cris Carter has vehemently denied that Philly is a wanted trade destination and Ainge lowballs everybody. Start a bidding war between the two LA teams, maybe just trade to Clippers to prevent a superteam, or find a desperate team who wants him. The Raptors aren't that team, though. Other teams who would do a bad trade have more assets.

Bidding war with the LA teams

Pelinka: Here I'll give you three nickels for your dollar, RC

West: No RC that guy, I can add a couple of pennies too.

[mo7888]

And why isn't Tobias of value? You need guys who can get their own shot and do it efficiently-he does. Harrell is already a defensive monster and I bet we could fit his FT% and get him to shoot the corner 3. And we need more forwards on this team in general and he'd also be a great small ball 5. Those 2 future picks should be of good value . . . I bet each has about the same value as the Heat 2021 pick.

In terms of teams dealing with us out of desperation/bad management/etc. I'd be most willing to deal with the Heat. I like Richardson/Adebayo/Olynyk/Winslow and two future first rounders for both Kawhi and Mills.

Harris probably has value to someone, which is why no said it would be interesting if the clippers trade him somewhere and get assets to send us, but he's on the final year of his contract and about to be signed for 5 years on a large contract. That wouldn't be good for us. Now if he's agree to something like 18M for 3 years it would be a different story.

[mo7888]

And why isn't Tobias of value? You need guys who can get their own shot and do it efficiently-he does. Harrell is already a defensive monster and I bet we could fit his FT% and get him to shoot the corner 3. And we need more forwards on this team in general and he'd also be a great small ball 5. Those 2 future picks should be of good value . . . I bet each has about the same value as the Heat 2021 pick.

In terms of teams dealing with us out of desperation/bad management/etc. I'd be most willing to deal with the Heat. I like Richardson/Adebayo/Olynyk/Winslow and two future first rounders for both Kawhi and Mills.

Harris probably has value to someone, which is why no said it would be interesting if the clippers trade him somewhere and get assets to send us, but he's on the final year of his contract and about to be signed for 5 years on a large contract. That wouldn't be good for us. Now if he's agree to something like 18M per year for 3 years it would be a different story.

[DAF86]

A lineup of Murray, DeRozan, Anunoby, Gay and Aldridge would be three point challenged, tbh.

[CGD]

As bad a fit as Derozan is next to LMA, as big a choker and bad a defender, as bad a three point shooter ...

He fits the same timeline as LMA. If they can get OG and Poertl and offload Mills, maybe take Delon back, get some picks...

I guess it might be tolerable. Maybe. At least it's not the Lakers.

This is where I’m at. This starting five will be challenged to spread the floor but not terrible:

Murray
Derozan
OG
Bert/Siakam
LMA

Then I’d look for ways to move Patty and Green for future assets before Feb 2019. Either of those guys would be nice on Philly actually.

[MaNu4Tres]

This is where I’m at. This starting five will be challenged to spread the floor but not terrible:

Murray
Derozan
OG
Bert/Siakam
LMA

Then I’d look for ways to move Patty and Green for future assets before Feb 2019. Either of those guys would be nice on Philly actually.

I got

LMA - Bertans - DeRozan - White - DeJounte

Pau - Gay - OG - Marco - Patty

Switch Gay and Bertans if you'd like.

This is if Spurs and TOR can't find a 3rd team to take on Patty instead of Green.

[DMC]

I don't think Derozan is coming to SA. I wouldn't doubt Lowry coming though. Spurs attract downward sloping talent, rarely any prime or upward sloping talent.

[FireMicoHalili]

I don’t know why the Raptors would give up Anunoby and Siakam or picks for a one-year rental. Aside from Murray and White the Spurs have no young assets with which to part. If the Raptors value cap relief then Gasol and Green might be useful, but otherwise it just seems like a move to force Philly’s hand to give up more. To expect them to cough up DeRozan AND young players for Leonard and some other dude would be one-sided and Masai isn’t an idiot.

DeRozan’s iso style is extremely counter-intuitive to the beautiful game but if Pop is bent on continuing Iso Leonard then I guess whatever.