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    Lowry turns 33 this season and is set to make over $64M over the next two years.. Gross.


    Lowry is the better shooter, passer, and defender, but DeMar is the better all-around scorer and is almost 4 years younger. It's a no-brainer who you take in this hypothetical deal. Seriously.

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    Lowry turns 33 this season and is set to make over $64M over the next two years.. Gross.


    Lowry is the better shooter and defender, but DeMar is the better all-around scorer and is almost 4 years younger. It's a no-brainer who you take in this hypothetical deal.
    And yet DeMar is set to make 81 Million over the next 3 years (!!!)

    His third year from now is a player option but now way does he turn that down unless he goes HAM these next few years.

    I agree DeMar is younger but Lowry fits a skillset the Spurs need much more than DeMar's. DeMar is a one tricky pont, and he is good at that one trick and has elite footwork but he's peaked (as has Lowry). He's also very very soft.

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    He can't shoot and he can't pass. When his midrange isn't falling he is useless.

    Spurs need outside shooting and playmaking, DeRozan brings none of that. He also choked badly in the playoffs every single year. He's an inefficient chucker, Spurs don't need any more of those.
    Lowry isn't good enough as a creator for this Spurs team, his individual shot creating has visibly fallen off and he has trouble going at good defenders nowadays..

    This Spurs team desperately needs an individual shot creator..Lowry's a good passer and creator for others, but we need to accept that this Spurs team isn't built like that anymore..they need a high-level volume scorer, which Lowry isn't ..

    I'd rather have Lowry short-term if the Spurs had offensive talent to surround him with, but they don't..they need somebody to help carry an offense with scoring..

    I strongly dislike Derozan's game and I already hate watching Aldridge, but thats the best fit IMO..

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    Lowry isn't good enough as a creator for this Spurs team, his individual shot creating has visibly fallen off lately and he has trouble going at good defenders nowadays..

    This Spurs team desperately needs an individual shot creator..Lowry's a good passer and creator for others, but we need to accept that this Spurs team isn't built like that anymore..they need a high-level volume scorer, which Lowry isn't ..
    I hear where you're coming from, and DeMar will win some extra regular season games but to pay that much for a playoff choker is too much. If the Spurs are going all in on iso ball even then I don't see how him and LMA will fit. It's going to be so awkward.

    Lowry is only getting older but he can at least run a pick and roll and find the open man. Both players frustrate the out of me in fourth quarter situations as they can get very selfish and try to do too much.

    Does SA really need more ball stoppers? Because that's what DeRozan is.

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    I like lowry but aging point guards is not good with a team that might be looking to rebuild

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington was inquiring about Kawhi. The Wizards have a decent roster, but falter every year in the first or second round of the playoffs. Beal would be the ideal centerpiece for the Spurs.

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    Ainge patting himself on the back right now for trading IT tbh.
    Sure, but now players...seen how they did IT.
    May not matter since they can trade for what they need... But damn, is he a cautionary tale for Kawhi and others not to play through injury.

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    Kawhi's group already said he's 100%.

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington was inquiring about Kawhi. The Wizards have a decent roster, but falter every year in the first or second round of the playoffs. Beal would be the ideal centerpiece for the Spurs.
    Well RC was at the most recent Wizards/Clippers game

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    Remarkable job by Marks. They had nothing when he got there and he’s done some clever moves to assemble whatever grade of talent you’d call them. They’ll play hard no doubt.

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    I like lowry but aging point guards is not good with a team that might be looking to rebuild
    Not to mention we have 2 young PG already ready to go

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington was inquiring about Kawhi. The Wizards have a decent roster, but falter every year in the first or second round of the playoffs. Beal would be the ideal centerpiece for the Spurs.
    I mentioned the Wiz as a potential trading partner a few days ago. Thought maybe they’d consider Beal + Kelly Oubre for Kawhi but I doubt they’d do that for a 1-year rental tbh.


    They’d prob offer Otto Porter and his awful contract instead. Big no to that.

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    I'd move Murray or White to them if they attach another young big. We'd have 7 guards then including Manu-why would we need to lose him? Not enough PT? Him and Green probably will be playing the 3 a lot, I guess.
    Well Mills, White, Walker, Murray, Forbes and Beli all cannot play the 3. So by virtue, Manu and Green will have too. Both they cannot play it full time though. Too much wear and tear on their bodies to split 48mins, right? Green and Manu to back up Leonard is fine. But Currently, we assume we don't have Leonard. It makes no sense that Mills is in our team with the way we drafted and signing Beli, resigning Forbes, and we assume Manu is back until he says he is not.

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    Well Mills, White, Walker, Murray, Forbes and Beli all cannot play the 3. So by virtue, Manu and Green will have too. Both they cannot play it full time though. Too much wear and tear on their bodies to split 48mins, right? Green and Manu to back up Leonard is fine. But Currently, we assume we don't have Leonard. It makes no sense that Mills is in our team with the way we drafted and signing Beli, resigning Forbes, and we assume Manu is back until he says he is not.
    I'm assuming Gay can play 24-30 minutes a game and he and Bertans would be switching the 3/4 positions frequently. And including the two bigs/forwards we'd get back we'd only be at 14 players assuming we sign Metu. I'm sure an emergency option is available for the BAE although tbh I haven't found it yet.

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    Sad news for Isaiah. This guy was scheduled to make hundreds of millions. Hope he recovers though

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    Lowry turns 33 this season and is set to make over $64M over the next two years.. Gross.


    Lowry is the better shooter, passer, and defender, but DeMar is the better all-around scorer and is almost 4 years younger. It's a no-brainer who you take in this hypothetical deal. Seriously.
    Yeah, neither.

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    Just hold on to Kawhi. He has no option but to play this season. Who knows? maybe they can work it out.

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    No, DeMar has been much worse. I've seen nearly every single Toronto for the last 5 years, I live here and I'm telling you man while I'm not thrilled about either player with a gun to my head I take Lowry every day of the week. Even if Lowry isn't shooting well, he is 100 times the playmaker DeRozan is and a better defender (not that Lowry is a great defender but DeMar mails it in on that end every time). Lowry is also a MUCH better outside shooter than DeRozan and is on a much friendlier contract. DeRozan has one of the worst contracts in the league.

    Spurs desperately and I mean DESPERATELY need a playmaker and outside shooter. Lowry does both.

    DeMar when his shot isn't falling is absolutely awful. Again, DeMar was BENCHED completely in the ENTIRE fourth quarters of multiple playoff games. That's never happened with Lowry. DeMar and LMA would be an awful awful fit.

    I understand the Spurs are going to get screwed either way in a Kawhi trade but if they can get Lowry and OG (who has TREMENDOUS upside and will be an elite defender in this league hands down) I would be much happier. I'm not even the biggest Lowry fan, but without hesitation would I take Lowry over Demar.
    Dang okay thanks for the input man. Advanced metrics aren’t helping DeRozan a lot and his three-point shooting is horrible, even for someone who’s been in the league long enough. Though his midrange game is superb that’s just not how the league works anymore and Lowry seems like a more palatable get than DeRozan. Two years left anyway, on top of providing some mentoring to younger guards.

    The real prize here would be OG since getting another player like Leonard for cheap is like we didn’t lose him at all, though it’s going to take some time to develop him and Pop doesn’t have the luxury of time to mold him.

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    Spurs interested in Nwaba. 6'4 undrafted SG out of Cal Poly in 2016.






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    His terrible iso style is hideous in today's NBA, but it's actually a great fit for the current Spurs..they're desperate for a high-level scorer and they already play black hole ball with Aldridge and Gay on the team, it's not like DeRozan would be stopping ball movement like he would on any other team

    DeRozan on the Warriors or Rockets would make them worse, but he's perfect for the Spurs..
    Same sentiment regarding black hole ball this team is going to be deliciously hideous with all those low percentage midrange shots

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    Spurs interested in Nwaba. 6'4 undrafted SG out of Cal Poly in 2016.
    another guard we dont need

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    Something tell me kawahi isnt going to toronto and this is all baseless speculation

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    Manimal on the move in an apparent salary dump


    --------------------------Id like the Manimal on the Spurs

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