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    He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

    Spurs aren't winning a le with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..
    Yeah that offense was just in game 1

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    If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.
    This.

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    I don't think the iso-offense is by design, but by necessity. I think Pop and Co's idea with this roster build was that LMA and Kawhi would obviously be our 1-2 punch, while Tony, who got a 15ppg player level contract, was to be the 3rd wheel and offensive engine.

    It's really tough to run a fluid offense when you don't have consistent penetration from your perimeter players. It's why the offense looks so much better with Manu running point. He can still decently penetrate and get the defense collapsing and rotating. Parker penetrates like once every 30 possessions now it seems.
    The way the offense is supposed to work is how it worked in game 1, ISOs, mixed with ball movement.

    That requires of course Kawhi Leonard to show up, however, he decided to take a sick day.

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    Yeah that offense was just in game 1
    The problem over the past 2 months is that the offense doesn't reach that Game 1 peak consistently enough. It generates looks, but when shooters can't knock down those looks at a decent clip, things go haywire. And we can't mitigate cold shooting with penetration, since the Spurs no longer have an elite penetrator due to Parker's decline and Kawhi's unconfidence in his dribble-drive game.

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    He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

    Spurs aren't winning a le with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..
    I think if we get to the Cavs we'll beat them. No way Love can guard LMA, but Kawhi and Danny will be good against LeBron and Irving.

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    Yes - he was worth it. Fat talk was premature me thinks.

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    Bitter-Sweet but still cool. A lot more post work than Game 1.


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    I think if we get to the Cavs we'll beat them. No way Love can guard LMA, but Kawhi and Danny will be good against LeBron and Irving.
    They can put Thompson on LMa though.. and if Timmy continues his current trend, they will be able to hide Love behind Timmy. That worries me, but then again is a long way to get to the Cavs yet.

    About LMa, if the still had Twitter we could all go and thank him. He has scored like an old time superstar big man.

    You can bet Shaq loves it

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    I think the Blazers have no chance of winning this series even if Curry doesn't play. They are just not talented enough to beat GS. I feel GS would lose to Spurs,OKC, healthy Clippers team, and Cavs if they had to play without Curry but against average to mediocre teams they can still win without him.
    the Meyers Leonard injury was really unfortunate for them. i used to wish the spurs had a nose for talent like Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe, and Plumlee.

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    Quit posting, and get some help tbh
    see in your sig video where Towns misses the block. that's the difference between Sam Mitc and a real coach. you're lucky the Twolves didn't hire Sam Cassell and Robert Horry.

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    the Meyers Leonard injury was really unfortunate for them. i used to wish the spurs had a nose for talent like Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe, and Plumlee.
    The Blazers overachieved this year and made some huge strides no doubt about it but they really shouldn't be in the second round when in reality they are really still a first round team at heart. Them advancing reminds me of the Sixers taking out the bulls in '12 due to Rose' injury. The Spurs definitely could use a big like Plumleee. This is off season they are going to have to find a way to get a young solid big that can be a defensive anchor.

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    . He has scored like an old time superstar big man.

    You can bet Shaq loves it
    I loved it too.

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    There was no "black hole," dip . LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

    But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams

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    There was no "black hole," dip . LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

    But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams
    take your pick

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    Just depressing how much Tim has fallen off. A year ago he would easily win this matchup.
    this. right track, wrong train.

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    Take my pick of what?

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    He's an incredibly terrible poster. LMA has made him look stupid, but he's too bull-headed to admit how massively wrong he was.

    A "blackhole" taking 21 raw shot attempts in 43 minutes

    If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.
    CAN'T WAIT TO ING JACK OFF AT THE RESULTS!

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    Take my pick of what?
    give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan, or give more attempts to Duncan. "there was no "black hole," dip ." either way.

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    I loved it too.

    Definitely too. Just a pleasure to watch.

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    I've always been skeptical of the idea that Kawhi can turn into an elite offensive player. He has shown many flashes of eliteness, but then always seems to have a few mediocre follow up moments/games. His blind fans blame Pop, the system, Parker, etc, but Kevin Durant has little problem exploding for big points on great efficiency in one of the worst offensive systems in the NBA, in a lineup that doesn't really complement KD's overall skill set very well. Ibaka is a poor floor spacer (I know Serge can hit the 3, but he's not really a threat to go off like a real stretch 4). Adams doesn't space the floor at all. Robertson is non-factor. And Westbrook is prone to ballhogging.

    The main issues that I think hold Kawhi back:

    - Dribbling. He's improving. But he isn't as good as a KD or Lebron at creating a shot off the dribble. Kawhi usually needs to get the ball in his spots in the post or when he spots up behind the 3 point line. He's not bad at creating for himself, but he's not on the level of the league's elite scorers.

    - Penetration. Again, shows flashes, and then will inexplicably abandon attacking the paint. Might be a confidence issue in his comparative lack of ball handling skills or speed. Kawhi has a few highlight dunks in traffic, but a player like Lebron routinely "dunks on fools" every game. With Kawhi, that's maybe a once in a 20 game event.

    I still think he's a top 3 player in the league, because his all around game is so strong, but I'm not sure he's ready for offensive first option duties.


    I'd add vision, too. The reality is, he doesn't make his teammates better offensively. Aldridge doesn't either, but it's exacerbated by him being a perimeter player and this team no longer having someone who consistently can.

    Vision and the mindset to make others better, is something that can be incrementally improved through coaching, experience, film, etc., but for the most part, it's innate.

    Going forward, if they think they can get by with him incrementally improving, another year older Parker and some combination of Anderson/Simmons, they're not getting past the 2nd round.
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    The Blazers overachieved this year and made some huge strides no doubt about it but they really shouldn't be in the second round when in reality they are really still a first round team at heart. Them advancing reminds me of the Sixers taking out the bulls in '12 due to Rose' injury. The Spurs definitely could use a big like Plumleee. This is off season they are going to have to find a way to get a young solid big that can be a defensive anchor.
    the blazers might have beat the clippers without the Paul and Griffin injuries. Just the same as they might have beat the spurs, if they'd dropped a few games for the 1st round matchup. dropping lame was genius!

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    Our most consistent role-players are Green (defensively) and Manu (offensively). Everyone else has shown flashes throughout the season. We really need a third scorer to rise up. Parker is best suited for that role but I'm not sure he still has it in him. Green can get hot but it will come and go as we know. Boris might pull a Horry but not in this series with all that OKC size.

    Timmy, we need you man. Give us one more run.
    If Tim makes his layups then OKC won't be able to ICE the PnRs thus they will be forced to choose their poison. There is really no excuse for CONSISTENTLY missing point blank layups when you are a professional basketball player, for god sakes use the freaking glass ala Tiago instead of try to lay it in or shoot floaters on your tippy toes.

    I feel like he's still driving into the lane as if he has ONE good knee thus he needs to re-calibrate his shot for TWO shot knees.

    They can put Thompson on LMa though.. and if Timmy continues his current trend, they will be able to hide Love behind Timmy. That worries me, but then again is a long way to get to the Cavs yet.
    You're looking too far ahead but Diaw would get the majority of the playing time against Love especially since Love is usually camping at the 3 point line thus offensive rebounding wouldn't be such a big issue. Tim would be probably start on Tristan & LMA on Love.

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    Somebody is going to have to nut up these two games in OKC, because the only way is down for LMA..he can't possibly keep this up..

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    for the 2nd straight year the idiots on this forum question Harlem for bashing on one of their beloved players..

    Last year, it was seeing Parker's decline in November, while 90% of the forum wanted APO and I banned for speaking the truth..it took them until the playoffs to realize they were wrong..

    This year, we have one of the longest threads in the history of this forum, full of homers that had the audacity to continuously bump this thread because this showed up for a bunch of regular season teams and 2 home playoff games

    He's Lamarcus Loser, Carmelo Aldridge..a mid range chucker that shrivels up at the first sign of pressure..the Spurs committed their future to this ing pussy

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    people bumping this thread against ty regular season teams that he feasts on

    It's why Harlem is one of the best posters.

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