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    I still like Wolf but it's going to take a good coach or system to get the most out of him and we have neither at this point. I think a great fit for him would be in Golden State, that is a system that would be able to use his abilities to get the most out of him.

    As far as watching him play I always have liked the Center he plays with V. Goldin he has really come on strong the last couple of games and I love that he plays with a lot of passion something we are lacking. Both him and T. Ivisic, and Raynaud are Centers I like in the Second Round.

    At this point if Mcneeley or Fears is off the board I am fine with taking Fleming with our second pick

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    I still like Wolf but it's going to take a good coach or system to get the most out of him and we have neither at this point. I think a great fit for him would be in Golden State, that is a system that would be able to use his abilities to get the most out of him.

    As far as watching him play I always have liked the Center he plays with V. Goldin he has really come on strong the last couple of games and I love that he plays with a lot of passion something we are lacking. Both him and T. Ivisic, and Raynaud are Centers I like in the Second Round.

    At this point if Mcneeley or Fears is off the board I am fine with taking Fleming with our second pick
    I still like Wolf as well, but nowhere near where we or Atlanta pick. If we trade back or if he's available in the 2nd round is a range I'd be comfortable with.

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    The more I look at that daft the more I think Spurs could get quality players even if Hawks pick slide to 15th/16th.

    Liam McNeeley, Hugo Gonzalez, Carter Bryant, Rasheer Fleming and Asa Newell all look like fine prospects for Spurs.

    If Spurs want to trade Vassell, there are also some quality SGs in this draft with Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel and Jase Richardson.

    There might have other interesting players like Will Riley, Ian Jackson or Drake Powell but I haven't looked enough at them to have an opinion.

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    Wolf has backslid a little these past two games. Unless he shows out in the tournament, he's firmly out of the Spurs range. Saw tankathon mocking him to the Nuggets, which would be interesting.

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    The more I look at that daft the more I think Spurs could get quality players even if Hawks pick slide to 15th/16th.

    Liam McNeeley, Hugo Gonzalez, Carter Bryant, Rasheer Fleming and Asa Newell all look like fine prospects for Spurs.

    If Spurs want to trade Vassell, there are also some quality SGs in this draft with Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel and Jase Richardson.

    There might have other interesting players like Will Riley, Ian Jackson or Drake Powell but I haven't looked enough at them to have an opinion.
    It kinda of comes down to how we want to play it. For instance, Knueppel is well ahead of Riley, but Riley probably has a good bit more upside if he hits although it'll take a year or two because he's raw, while Knueppel is plug and play day 1 and has a pretty high floor.

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    The more I look at that daft the more I think Spurs could get quality players even if Hawks pick slide to 15th/16th.

    Liam McNeeley, Hugo Gonzalez, Carter Bryant, Rasheer Fleming and Asa Newell all look like fine prospects for Spurs.

    If Spurs want to trade Vassell, there are also some quality SGs in this draft with Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel and Jase Richardson.

    There might have other interesting players like Will Riley, Ian Jackson or Drake Powell but I haven't looked enough at them to have an opinion.
    I agree with this. There are players at 15 that I like (e.g., Asa, Denim, and even McNeely who I really like), that would be reaches at say 7. And, like that Sochan draft, that range between 6-10 looks kinda suspect in this draft (but maybe that all drafts?).

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    If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players. This would mean preferring players with a higher floor over players with a high ceiling but high bust potential. Players like Kasparas, McNeely, Knueppel, Newell, De Larrea, Bryant, and Proctor. I realize a couple of those would be trade back scenarios.

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    If Castle keeps this up we may have our #3 and should turn our attention to complimentary players. This would mean preferring players with a higher floor over players with a high ceiling but high bust potential. Players like Kasparas, McNeely, Knueppel, Newell, De Larrea, Bryant, and Proctor. I realize a couple of those would be trade back scenarios.
    Fox is the #2.

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    For the moment...

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    For the moment...
    If Castle surpasses him, the Fox is the #3. Either way, we have 2 and 3 on board already.

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    If Castle surpasses him, the Fox is the #3. Either way, we have 2 and 3 on board already.
    Agreed...which is why I'm saying that Castle's trajectory may impact the type of player we draft and look for more ready msde high floor guys instead of the wilder swings that come with high ceiling-low floor guys.

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    Agreed...which is why I'm saying that Castle's trajectory may impact the type of player we draft and look for more ready msde high floor guys instead of the wilder swings that come with high ceiling-low floor guys.
    You get the second overall pick you drafft Harper. Harper may end up the number 2.

    Look how much more athletic and deeper OK City is compared to the Spurs. It took the Spurs to shoot a record number of 3 pointers in the first half to even stay close.

    Spurs aren't at a point you trade out of a top four draft pick for role players.

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    Agreed...which is why I'm saying that Castle's trajectory may impact the type of player we draft and look for more ready msde high floor guys instead of the wilder swings that come with high ceiling-low floor guys.
    If our 1st pick falls on top 4, I’d take the BPA available. The talent falls from 5-16 and I agree I wouldn’t want like Maluach, high ceiling high bust. I’m okay with Newell. But I really like Wolf because of his high floor. For sure he’s got a not so good couple of games. He’s a 7 footer big body who contributes in all facets of the game, a connector. I’m okay with Newell and even Queen (if he can work on his shots). Currently Spurs are picks 9th and 10th. I’m confident they can find that big PF they desperately need whether from draft, FA or trade.

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    You get the second overall pick you drafft Harper. Harper may end up the number 2.

    Look how much more athletic and deeper OK City is compared to the Spurs. It took the Spurs to shoot a record number of 3 pointers in the first half to even stay close.

    Spurs aren't at a point you trade out of a top four draft pick for role players.
    No one was proposing that.

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    You get the second overall pick you drafft Harper. Harper may end up the number 2.

    Look how much more athletic and deeper OK City is compared to the Spurs. It took the Spurs to shoot a record number of 3 pointers in the first half to even stay close.

    Spurs aren't at a point you trade out of a top four draft pick for role players.
    Yeah Harper is a stud. But I dont think Mo is saying take a specialist if we get into the Top 3, more that it isn’t bad, if say, our picks end up 8 and 15 because we could actually use them on helpful specialists given we seem to have big 3 emerging. To me that means shooting and rebounding.

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    No one was proposing that.
    I saw MO7888 write trade back scenarios for Kasparas, McNeely, Newell, Knepple etc. Where would you be trading back from since these guys are going just outside the top 4???

    "If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players". So no need for a high ceiling player since we have our number 2.

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    I saw MO7888 write trade back scenarios for Kasparas, McNeely, Newell, Knepple etc. Where would you be trading back from since these guys are going just outside the top 4???

    "If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players". So no need for a high ceiling player since we have our number 2.
    Only Kneupple is even in the top 10. His proposal was for worst case, if we draw like 10 and 15. No one on this board, that I’ve seen, has ever proposed trading out of the top 4. You pick BPA, and sort it out later.

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    "If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players".
    This. You already have option 1,2,3 on the roster. You have primary and secondary ball handler and rim protector in those. You have useful guys with future tbd in Sochan and Vassell. But outside coaching, this team badly needs more shooting and rebounding, and I would love to address those issues with two lotto picks

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    If we acquire Naz Reid

    Then
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    So we fill in the gaps with?

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    You get the second overall pick you drafft Harper. Harper may end up the number 2.

    Look how much more athletic and deeper OK City is compared to the Spurs. It took the Spurs to shoot a record number of 3 pointers in the first half to even stay close.

    Spurs aren't at a point you trade out of a top four draft pick for role players.
    I'm not referring to a top pick. That's a long shot. I wouldn't take Harper at 2 or 3 though. My order for the top 4 would be Flagg, Edgecombe, Bailey, then Harper. If we're outside of that range (which should be the expectation) we should take one of the other guys I listed.
    Last edited by mo7888; 03-03-2025 at 08:28 AM.

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    If our 1st pick falls on top 4, I’d take the BPA available. The talent falls from 5-16 and I agree I wouldn’t want like Maluach, high ceiling high bust. I’m okay with Newell. But I really like Wolf because of his high floor. For sure he’s got a not so good couple of games. He’s a 7 footer big body who contributes in all facets of the game, a connector. I’m okay with Newell and even Queen (if he can work on his shots). Currently Spurs are picks 9th and 10th. I’m confident they can find that big PF they desperately need whether from draft, FA or trade.
    I don't think Wolf's floor is that high. I'd look at him anyway after pick #20.

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    I saw MO7888 write trade back scenarios for Kasparas, McNeely, Newell, Knepple etc. Where would you be trading back from since these guys are going just outside the top 4???

    "If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players". So no need for a high ceiling player since we have our number 2.
    No...trade back scenarios were not for those guys. It was for Proctor or Bryant. You wouldn't take those guys around pick #10. You'd trade back and get another asset if you targeted one of them. Ex is exactly right..
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    Only Kneupple is even in the top 10. His proposal was for worst case, if we draw like 10 and 15. No one on this board, that I’ve seen, has ever proposed trading out of the top 4. You pick BPA, and sort it out later.
    100%

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    I don't think Wolf's floor is that high. I'd look at him anyway after pick #20.
    Wolf's floor appears to be "out of the league" from my non-expert view. I'm not seeing anything other than a fun college player. He and Drew Timme can light up the G-League together before heading over to dominate the Shanghai Sharks.

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    I saw MO7888 write trade back scenarios for Kasparas, McNeely, Newell, Knepple etc. Where would you be trading back from since these guys are going just outside the top 4???

    "If Castle keeps this up we may have our #2 and should turn our attention to complimentary players". So no need for a high ceiling player since we have our number 2.
    Remember when I mentioned your lack of reading comprehension? This is another example.

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