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    I like Candace and I'm agnostic.
    I don't agree with everything she has to say, but objectively, she's a compelling voice who has been right on many taboo topics over the last few years including GF and Armie H.

    I'm not interested in getting into political or religious debates, but after what we lived through in 2020 and 2021, surely we've all questioned a few of the prevailing narratives.
    Yeah forgive me please but isn't Candice an absolutely disingenuous right wing propagandist?

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    Yeah forgive me please but isn't Candice an absolutely disingenuous right wing propagandist?
    No apologies needed my guy. I’m sure that’s how she is perceived by the general populace and she is definitely right wing, but I’ve found her to be funny and insightful on key social issues by seeking objectivity.

    Her BLM doco, ‘The Greatest Lie Ever Sold’ is fascinating and damning on many levels that it is well worth a watch for that very reason.

    She just did an interview with comedian/independent Jimmy Dore on YouTube that covers a few key points of the doco if curiosity gets the better of you.

    Again, I don’t agree with her views on every issue but feels that’s a good thing.

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    Btw that KCP deal with Orlando is such a steal. Surprised he didn't get a 4th year. They need a real PG in a bad way, though.

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    wow PG to the 76ers that's crazy

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    Well after the failed trade to GS and with Clippers still unwilling to give him a 4th year, Philly was his only serious option, so no surprises there.

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    she is definitely right wing, but I’ve found her to be funny and insightful on key social issues by seeking objectivity.

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    Well after the failed trade to GS and with Clippers still unwilling to give him a 4th year, Philly was his only serious option, so no surprises there.
    yeah the only teams with max space to sign him outright without a S&T were the magic, pistons, and sixers (of course clippers could have but they didnt want to give him a 4 year max). the pistons were never a serious option. magic ended up signing KCP and left themselves with less than max money, probably hearing from PGs camp that it wasnt going to happen. left sixers as the only viable option

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    wow PG to the 76ers that's crazy
    His abandoning Kawhi gives me the warm fuzzies.

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    I already thought that was the strategy. So we need to sign one more guy to get to the salary floor and we still got Graham. I guess Zach, Keldon and Tre are the players who could be packaged in a trade, but also most likely for players with one year left on their deal like a Brook Lopez.

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    wonder if they only offering one year deals to free agents.Batum would be perfect for that,But seems hes gonna retire.
    Pretty sure he will keep playing if he has a chance to win with a conteder.Would what decent free agent would take a one year deal.
    Only retiring from the french NT after to Olympics. He said he wants to play in the NBA as long as he can.

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    His abandoning Kawhi gives me the warm fuzzies.
    Yeah man wtf are the LA Clippers gonna do lol they are debuting a brand new $2b arena this fall and WB and PG are gone lol it's just Harden and a guy who never plays but takes a quarter of the total salary

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    Yeah man wtf are the LA Clippers gonna do lol they are debuting a brand new $2b arena this fall and WB and PG are gone lol it's just Harden and a guy who never plays but takes a quarter of the total salary
    But he's in California, which was always the most important.

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    I get it. The seeming contradiction. The oxymoron.

    Ask yourself this though - Do you have to agree with every policy/talking point of your partisanship lest you find yourself politically homeless?

    I won't clog up this forum with any more of this content, just thought you were genuinely curious is all and wanted to respond.

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    I already thought that was the strategy. So we need to sign one more guy to get to the salary floor and we still got Graham. I guess Zach, Keldon and Tre are the players who could be packaged in a trade, but also most likely for players with one year left on their deal like a Brook Lopez.
    we already are set to have a load of cap space next year. if the plan is 2025, we dont really need to move keldon or zollins, at least not yet.

    just based on what we currently have under contract a year from now... vassell, zollins, keldon, wemby, sochan, castle, you are looking at about 93 million or so in committed cap. this assuming that options arent picked up for wesley/branhan, and factoring in that champagnie/bassey/cissoko salaries are not guaranteed. the cap this year is 140, but by next year with new media deal kicking in, the expectation is a series of 10% increases, meaning next offseason we are looking at about 154mil in salary cap, leaving us with about 60 mil to play with before moving keldon/zollins (and not factoring in next years draft picks, to be fair)

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    It did occur to me that part of Pop doing his "This is not who we are" nonsense could have been as an olive branch for the unlikely scenario that a return could happen

    After a year of missing Paul George and being a play-in or worse team, Kawhi miiiight decide to get out, and when it comes to suitors, only SA will have the kind of decent picks that LAC could use. Not the full boat, but enough to be respectable, like if the Bulls finish 11 or something, could be that and 2 other picks.

    A far fetched delusion if mine but mildly entertaining
    Pop’s always treated him way better than he deserves for the snake job he pulled.

    I don’t want to see it, because it would give PATFO ammunition for raising his jersey. Keep in mind that
    Pop’s microphone grab was last fall, 2023, and people were still booing the out of him. He’s hated and reviled in this town, and the jersey retirement would be a tough sell without some kind of fake redemption tour. Also, he can’t seem to make it past the month of April in a healthy state. What good is that? I don’t care if he’s an All Star, or All NBA if he can’t make it past the first round.

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    we already are set to have a load of cap space next year. if the plan is 2025, we dont really need to move keldon or zollins, at least not yet.

    just based on what we currently have under contract a year from now... vassell, zollins, keldon, wemby, sochan, castle, you are looking at about 93 million or so in committed cap. this assuming that options arent picked up for wesley/branhan, and factoring in that champagnie/bassey/cissoko salaries are not guaranteed. the cap this year is 140, but by next year with new media deal kicking in, the expectation is a series of 10% increases, meaning next offseason we are looking at about 154mil in salary cap, leaving us with about 60 mil to play with before moving keldon/zollins (and not factoring in next years draft picks, to be fair)
    we definitely have enough cap space, I just looked it up. But other than Naz Reid, Derrick White, Lauri Markkanen and Myles Turner that class is pretty meh too. Most of those 4 will likely sign an extension this season. We will have to make some trades soon to really speed up the process.

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    HOW QUICKLY THINGS CHANGE IN THE NBA… that has been my saying for a long time.

    We’re witnessing right now some top teams get weakened big time.

    This is why I scoff at people making predictions on how every team will remain strong for the upcoming year (was that you, my buddy LeBowen ?) when like this happens every offseason. They say it as if the Spurs won’t ever climb into a top 8 Western team because of this fallacy.
    Really?
    I was just predicitng which teams will remaing garbage.
    For a year now I've been saying that a lot of West teams are close to their expiration date and that 2025 playoffs will be their last chance.



    I kind of don't like Sixers going for PG13.
    They would've been better off with elite role players who can actually stay healthy than a 34 year old on a 4 year deal.

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    he might not be a mentor from a personality standpoint as being the likeable leader, but you can bet your ass that

    a) he demands perfection from teammates
    b) will hold players accountable
    c) show them how to be consummate pro's by example

    if we draft a PG, paul could be the one to show them the ropes

    as mr body said, the suns style of play matured due to his presence. so did OKC's when he went there. i dont know that he'd want to play for a team like the spurs as opposed to trying to ring chase w/ a team like denver
    from late may

    as someone who has had doubts about castle being a real full time point guard, i think being tutored by a great is going to do wonders for him as opposed to just throwing him out there the way they did with sochan with no real guardrails. castle probably plays more wing early on, and will undoubtedly get some ball handling duties as part of that. the more ap ude he shows for it, he can start displacing Tre as the primary backup as well.

    could have a rotation like

    CP3 - 27 minutes
    Tre - 13 minutes
    Castle - 30 minutes (8 at PG, 22 at wing)

    the better Castle performs at point, the more you move his minutes over into the PG tally at the expense of Tre. if Castle is able to show that he can really play the position, then next season he is the presumptive starter, and we then draft a backup instead of paying Tre to be a very expensive backup.

    if not, you are kind of back at square one and need to bring back Tre, and Castle keeps working as more of an Iguodala type playmaking wing
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    Only retiring from the french NT after to Olympics. He said he wants to play in the NBA as long as he can.
    Good to hear. Do you think he'd be interested in playing for the Spurs, or do you think he'd want to play for a contending team? I've liked him for a long time. I would have loved to have had him on the Spurs years ago. I think he'd me an AWSOME vet to add to the team. He was actually my first choice of vets to add to help mentor the young guys. Chris Paul I was interested in, but because I never really liked Paul due to him being a rival against the Spurs in previous playoff battles, he wasn't at the top of my list. I'm good with CP, as long as it doesn't affect Stephon's progress or chance to play PG minutes this upcoming season.

    Also, great signing from the Sixers. They're really going to be a legit team in the East now. I wonder what Milwaukee will do as Philadelphia has leapt in front of them now too. Who do you guys rate as the top teams in the east, and where would you put Philly? I'd maybe put them above the Knicks or on equal footing to NY, and just under Boston.
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    Did NBA TV just leave Vassell off the Spurs depth chart?


    Fire the person who made this e, tbh.

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    Pop’s always treated him way better than he deserves for the snake job he pulled.

    I don’t want to see it, because it would give PATFO ammunition for raising his jersey. Keep in mind that
    Pop’s microphone grab was last fall, 2023, and people were still booing the out of him. He’s hated and reviled in this town, and the jersey retirement would be a tough sell without some kind of fake redemption tour. Also, he can’t seem to make it past the month of April in a healthy state. What good is that? I don’t care if he’s an All Star, or All NBA if he can’t make it past the first round.
    I still am trying to figure out what Pop was doing with addressing the crowd. Surely it's a personal thing towards Kawhi, right? Surely he doesn't think fans shouldn't boo any players, right?

    As for Kawhi coming back, I would have taken him back a couple of years ago, but now, I don't know. Any idea if his mom still lives in SA, or did she eventually move back to San Diego?

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    Back to KCP. I still don't get it. Denver literally chose not to pay him a very reasonable contract because they seem scared of the 2nd apron while their team is top 3 in championship odds. They also could have made other moves to get under the 2nd apron. Must be infuriating for Denver fans, and hopefully someday when the Spurs have to make the same choice they're not going to be cheap like that.

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    Btw that KCP deal with Orlando is such a steal. Surprised he didn't get a 4th year. They need a real PG in a bad way, though.
    So CP3 will eventually be traded to the Magic for cash

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    Whispers are that he's roundly disliked, a religious freak Candace Owens-fan type.
    I don't know if that is the case but there's definitely something wrong with Hayward. Seeing how Presti went out of his way to publicly acknowledge his mistake in trading for him, you know something happened there. Definitely not mentor material.

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