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    U.S. top court rejects new challenge to Obamacare

    The U.S. Supreme Court, which delivered major rulings in 2012 and 2015 preserving President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law, on Tuesday declined to take up a new, long-shot challenge to Obamacare brought by an Iowa artist.

    The court turned away an appeal by Matt Sissel, who had asserted that the 2010 Affordable Care Act violated the U.S. Cons ution's requirement that revenue-raising legislation must originate in the House of Representatives, not in the Senate, as the healthcare law did.


    The high court left in place a 2014 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upholding a lower court's dismissal of the lawsuit, which was backed by the Pacific Legal Foundation, a conservative legal group. The suit targeted the law's "individual mandate" that Americans obtain health insurance or pay a tax penalty.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...e=politicsNews

    VRWC rightwingnuts brought the suit
    http://www.pacificlegal.org/sentry/Affordable-Care-Act-critics-and-supporters-are-raising-concerns-on-Obamacare




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    How a huge insurance company screwed up on Obamacare

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    itedHealth Group is the nation's biggest private health insurer, so when its executives started whining last year about how it was losing millions onAffordable Care Act exchange plans and threatened to leave the ACA market as early as 2017, people took notice.
    Even Obamacare devotees wondered whether United's experience signaled deeper problems with the ACA exchanges generally. Obamacare's critics gorged on United's words and still do:

    As recently as last week, the Wall Street Journal's editorial writers lamented that "the ObamaCare money-pit sunk [United's] year-over-year profit margin to 3.7% from 4.3%." They blamed, among other things, the ACA's "bureaucratic nuisance."

    We were skeptical of United's complaint about the ACA, arguing that it "may say a lot more about the company than the law." Now there's more evidence for that. Analysts at the Urban Ins ute's Health Policy Center have taken a close look at the pricing and design of United's Obamacare policies and concluded that the company shot itself in the foot.

    In addition, they concluded that United is such a marginal player in the individual exchange market that its departure won't matter very much.


    The Urban Ins ute critique coincides with a broadside fired at the company by Peter Lee, executive director of Covered California, the state's ACA exchange and a distinct Obamacare success story.

    "Instead of saying, 'We screwed up,' they said, 'Obamacare is the problem and we may not play anymore,'" Lee told Chad Terhune of California Healthline.

    "It was giving an excuse to Wall Street and throwing the Affordable Care Act under the bus." The company's words, he added, have "fed this political frenzy that Obamacare doesn't work. It's total spin and unanchored in reality."

    United, which specializes in large-group employer health plans, came into the individual exchange market reluctantly — and, as Urban Ins ute analysts imply, ineptly. The company seldom offered the lowest or second-lowest prices in the markets it did enter, but did offer "a broader-than-average provider network." These two features discouraged enrollment by customers who were younger or in relatively good health, for whom price is the chief concern. But it attracted sicker customers, for whom the widest choice of doctors is paramount.

    In any event, United didn't offer wider networks for some public-spirited reason; they did so because they were incompetent at designing health plans for the individual market. They're blaming the market for their own mistakes, which is a bit like a football team blaming the scoreboard for showing that it's losing 52-0.

    Back in December, Covered California's Lee pointed out to me another aspect of United's poor planning: It plunged into markets that had allowed old health plans to be grandfathered. That left the risk pools in those states fragmented, and hurt the profitability of ACA-compliant plans. California didn't do that, and its ACA plans are generally profitable as a result. In any event, grandfathering will end this year.



    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-insurance-company-screwed-up-on-obamacare-20160203-column.html


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    Aetna joins UnitedHealth in warning about Obamacare failing

    http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...acare-failing/

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    Aetna still made a solid profit on the exchanges, they're just not making as much as they thought they would:

    "Great question. Let me first highlight that this revenue shortfall is almost predominantly associated with the lack of growth on the public exchanges. I can't emphasize that point enough. And ultimately, that would be the one area I would say, while we're projecting profitability still in 2016, clearly at margins below what we think are the long-term margins for sustainable program and product. So that would be the one area I would point to relative to yield. We are still able to cover our cost of capital on them and be profitable, but we're looking forward to some of the structural changes that I know the administration is looking at to make these programs even more viable in the long term."

    Wayne DeVeydt, Anthem, Inc. - EVP & CFO


    They just make more money off Medicare, and this is where the whole conundrum between profit motive and health comes to a head. Barrycare did nothing to address cost, while keeping all the same profit driven middle-men, and that is it's biggest failure.
    Insurance companies will care first and foremost about margins and profitability. Nothing wrong with that, they're a business, that's what they should do.
    But, they couldn't care less about quality of service or patients' needs or outcomes. They squeeze providers as much as they can and try to pocket the difference. In that sense, it's the same perverse system we had before Barrycare, with the difference being they whine now because their margins are not as good, despite plans being absolute in general, with deductibles so high that if you don't make a lot of money, you're basically paying out of pocket unless it's something catastrophic. And most people just need regular care (beetus patients need their insulin, check that flu at the doc, check that back pain, etc).

    On the other hand, I hope these companies start failing one after the other, and basically people express with their wallets that this isn't going to cut it. It's the only way we're going to get the powers that be to actually start looking at cost, the middle-men, etc. I think as far as stirring up the hornet's nest, that was a positive of Barrycare.

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    incremental progress. that's the HRC slogan.

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    ‘Obamacare’ enrollment points to continued success

    When the first open-enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act began in October 2013, it failed miserably thanks largely to a website that simply didn’t work. After a month, an underwhelming total of 106,185 consumers signed up for insurance through an exchange.

    And Republicans thought this was hilarious. The GOP’s “Obamacare” critics, not at all shy about rooting for failure, openly mocked the system, pointing to sports venues with more than 106,185 seats. For the right, low enrollment totals stood as undeniable proof that the Affordable Care Act was “hurtling toward failure,” and conservatives could hardly contain their glee.

    A little more than two years later, the right’s laughter has disappeared – right along with the low enrollment totals.

    About 12.7 million Americans signed up for 2016 health insurance coverage through the government insurance exchanges,
    surpassing its expectations, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell said on Thursday.


    That means Republicans running in this year’s elections may find it harder to deliver on their promise of repeal, while Democrats may yet be able to tap the newly insured as a voting cons uency.

    “Open enrollment for 2016 is over and we are happy to report it was a success,” Burwell told reporters. “It’s clear that marketplace coverage is a product that people do want and need.”


    Going into the open-enrollment period, the Obama administration projected totals between 11 million and 14 million, and yesterday’s announcement put the actual figure almost exactly between those two points.

    So far, I haven’t seen any congressional Republicans pointing to stadiums that can hold 12.7 million people. Maybe they’re still looking.

    The Huffington Post’s Jeffrey Young, who took a deeper dive into the new numbers, added yesterday, “[M]easured by its performance expanding health coverage to Americans who previously lacked it, Obamacare is working. Since health insurance plans from these exchanges and coverage from expanded Medicaid took effect at the beginning of 2014, the uninsured rate sharply dropped. The Department of Health and Human Services estimates 17.6 million more people were covered as of the third quarter of 2015 than at the end of 2013.”

    For an even more granular look, don’t miss the analysis from Charles Gaba at ACA Signups.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow

    But the Repug blind ideology / robot-speak is that they MUST and the WILL repeal ACA in entirety, ASAP.



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    and your solution to the BigHealth ripoff? To millions of moocher/taker people not buying insurance but getting their diseases and care bailed about taxpayers?

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    S game. Still paying for healthcare for those peeps.

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    S game. Still paying for healthcare for those peeps.
    we're all paying for the uninsured anyway.

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    and your solution to the BigHealth ripoff? To millions of moocher/taker people not buying insurance but getting their diseases and care bailed about taxpayers?
    Ironic coming from the master. You've never proposed a solution for anything.

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    ‘Obamacare’ enrollment points to continued success

    When the first open-enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act began in October 2013, it failed miserably thanks largely to a website that simply didn’t work. After a month, an underwhelming total of 106,185 consumers signed up for insurance through an exchange.

    And Republicans thought this was hilarious. The GOP’s “Obamacare” critics, not at all shy about rooting for failure, openly mocked the system, pointing to sports venues with more than 106,185 seats. For the right, low enrollment totals stood as undeniable proof that the Affordable Care Act was “hurtling toward failure,” and conservatives could hardly contain their glee.

    A little more than two years later, the right’s laughter has disappeared – right along with the low enrollment totals.

    About 12.7 million Americans signed up for 2016 health insurance coverage through the government insurance exchanges,
    surpassing its expectations, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell said on Thursday.


    That means Republicans running in this year’s elections may find it harder to deliver on their promise of repeal, while Democrats may yet be able to tap the newly insured as a voting cons uency.

    “Open enrollment for 2016 is over and we are happy to report it was a success,” Burwell told reporters. “It’s clear that marketplace coverage is a product that people do want and need.”


    Going into the open-enrollment period, the Obama administration projected totals between 11 million and 14 million, and yesterday’s announcement put the actual figure almost exactly between those two points.

    So far, I haven’t seen any congressional Republicans pointing to stadiums that can hold 12.7 million people. Maybe they’re still looking.

    The Huffington Post’s Jeffrey Young, who took a deeper dive into the new numbers, added yesterday, “[M]easured by its performance expanding health coverage to Americans who previously lacked it, Obamacare is working. Since health insurance plans from these exchanges and coverage from expanded Medicaid took effect at the beginning of 2014, the uninsured rate sharply dropped. The Department of Health and Human Services estimates 17.6 million more people were covered as of the third quarter of 2015 than at the end of 2013.”

    For an even more granular look, don’t miss the analysis from Charles Gaba at ACA Signups.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow

    But the Repug blind ideology / robot-speak is that they MUST and the WILL repeal ACA in entirety, ASAP.


    What you neglect to mention is that CBO's estimate was 21 million. The administration knew it would never meet this lofty estimate and projected the above. So getting 12.7 million falls way below what CBO estimated - 40% lower than expected. CBO estimated 24 million for 2017 - they'll get nowhere near that. (Free) Medicaid, otoh, is 20% higher than CBO expected. Gee, I wonder why things turned out this way.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/up...ment.html?_r=0

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    Ironic coming from the master. You've never proposed a solution for anything.
    I've been for destroying the for profit BigHealthInsurer and going full bore public option/govt health insurace/medicare for all.

    Universal health coverage as a birthright, just like in adult countries.

    Instead of employers skimming salaries, before tax, to send to BigHealthInsurer, they stop that and would simply increase their 1.9% Medicare payroll tax and send it to the govt, just like now.

    what's your solution?

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    I've been for destroying the for profit BigHealthInsurer and going full bore public option/govt health insurace/medicare for all.

    Universal health coverage as a birthright, just like in adult countries.

    Instead of employers skimming salaries, before tax, to send to BigHealthInsurer, they stop that and would simply increase their 1.9% Medicare payroll tax and send it to the govt, just like now.

    what's your solution?
    Sure let's reward people for filling their bodies full of and being lazy by burdening everyone.

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    I've been for destroying the for profit BigHealthInsurer and going full bore public option/govt health insurace/medicare for all.

    Universal health coverage as a birthright, just like in adult countries.

    Instead of employers skimming salaries, before tax, to send to BigHealthInsurer, they stop that and would simply increase their 1.9% Medicare payroll tax and send it to the govt, just like now.

    what's your solution?
    I don't have a solution. It's a ed up system and I don't know that it's fixable.

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    Sure let's reward people for filling their bodies full of and being lazy by burdening everyone.
    thanks, very helpful.

    so people eat, drink S A D from BigFood and get sick and/or smoke, so you don't want to reward them.

    you're are already paying for them whether you or they have insurance, or not.

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    thanks, very helpful.

    so people eat, drink S A D from BigFood and get sick and/or smoke, so you don't want to reward them.

    you're are already paying for them whether you or they have insurance, or not.
    So your solution is give them more. Very helpful.

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    So your solution is give them more. Very helpful.
    no, medicare for all get them ALL to pay, and gets them earlier medical care before they become much sicker and much more expensive on the taxpayers' tab.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-22-2016 at 11:21 AM.

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    Did US Drug Ads Increase the Number of Depression Sufferers?

    From the debut of Prozac in 1988, 10 years before direct-to-consumer (DTC) drug advertising, one of the top-performing drug categories in the United States was depression drugs. Because depression has no drug or lab test and pop culture has convinced many that life should be one big “buzz” of extreme happiness, “depression” sailed Pharma through the 1990s and 2000s—even sometimes when people really didn’t probably have it.

    Certainly, if you had money, job, and career problems, family and relationship problems, or many kinds of health problems, you could be “unhappy” but not necessarily “depressed.”

    Whereas drugs like Valium and Librium were once prescribed for “anxiety,” anxiety was redefined as “really” depression during the blockbuster antidepressant years and was treated with the new drug class.

    In fact, 10 years after DTC advertising began, the number of Americans on antidepressants had doubled to 27 million, or 10 percent of the population!

    Nor was it probably a marketing coincidence that unlike anxiety drugs, antidepressants were not taken as needed but taken every day, for years. Ka-ching.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1939...ion-sufferers/

    guns? not about safety, but about $$$

    drugs? not about health, but about $$$



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    growth potential: Medicaid rather than state insurance exchanges

    This trend not only underscores the diversity of healthcare solutions embedded in Obamacare, but may also point to its future. In Medicaid, as in Medicare, government is the single payer. It sets reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals and sets enrollment terms so that members, once enrolled, stay enrolled.


    Moreover, the programs are almost entirely free or at least very inexpensive for members. That ensures that they get a lot of healthy enrollees as well as those with heavy medical needs, a mix that makes the costs of the overall insurance pool relatively stable and predictable.


    These factors and others eliminate many of the uncertainties that have bedeviled insurers in the exchange market, where the health profiles of customers have been hard to gauge and their movement into and out of health plans, sometimes to Medicare and Medicaid, has been vigorous.


    "It seems that insurers are perfectly happy and prosperous competing in the markets where the government is the payer," observes Andrew Sprung on his Xpostfactoid blog. He's right. Anthem, which has been quietly grousing about the elusive profits in the exchange market, also has been buying up Medicaid insurers — acquiring Amerigroup, which operates Medicaid plans in 13 states, for nearly $4.5 billion in 2012, and Simply Healthcare, with nearly 200,000 Medicaid and Medicare members in Florida, for $1 billion last year.


    Medicaid specialty insurers such as Wellcare and Centene have done especially well, as Bruce Japsen observed recently in Forbes. Medicaid managed care enrollment at St. Louis-based Centene grew last year by more than 20%, to 5.1 million members in 24 states.


    "Clearly, 2015 was a banner year," crowed its CEO, Michael Neidorff, in a conference call last week. No dissing of Obamacare was heard on the call.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...16-column.html

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    growth potential: Medicaid rather than state insurance exchanges

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...16-column.html
    All those $100Bs in profits to private insurers working the Medicaid area would be

    1) absent

    or

    2) going, in much reduced volume, to the govt with public option/single payer.

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    you didn't read the article, did you?

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    you didn't read the article, did you?
    I, way ahead of you, read the article the day it was published.

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    Obama propping up the insurance companies:

    http://www.atr.org/government-illega...nce-slush-fund

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    anecdotal: ACA crapifies healthcare, premiums and deductibles increasingly unaffordable

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/...r-stories.html

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