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    Man, if only OKC had Terrence Jones

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    I didn't give the bench a pass..

    They gutted the team and changed the system to build it around Aldridge..he's playing against a below average defensive team, and he was mediocre in games 3 and 4, and was horrendous in the biggest game of his career..more importantly , he missed 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time that could have changed the game

    When you're losing these games by a few possessions and one of the star players struggles, he deserves the blame..unfortunately, Aldridge routinely doesn't show up in the biggest games..he's Carmelo Anthony , he will give you a few hot games of shooting, but don't expect him to show up in the big ones..
    How did they gut the team? Splitter was no big loss. We all hated Marco last year, since putting him in was a guaranteed run for the other team. Boban is no different than Baynes. The only "loss" was Joseph, but the FO chose Patty House over him anyway after Patty went off in 2014. Also worth mentioning is that the system changed to suit Kawhi's midrange/midpost oriented game, as well.

    Westbrook has been struggling all series, so how come the Thunder can fade .333 shooting (over the series) from Westbrook, while we basically need Kawhi and LMA to play perfect basketball?

    Our starters beat their starters by 5. What happened to the days when the bench was a guaranteed 20 to 30 points per game?

    LMA is a net positive addition to the team in the long run. You're being too results oriented here. I understand he should've stepped up, but LMA is a 2nd tier star, and he's basically playing like one (big game here, mediocre game here, good game here). There's only a few superstars in the league who can step up nearly every game with big performances.

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    Man, if only OKC had Terrence Jones
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    I didn't give the bench a pass..

    They gutted the team and changed the system to build it around Aldridge..he's playing against a below average defensive team, and he was mediocre in games 3 and 4, and was horrendous in the biggest game of his career..more importantly , he missed 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time that could have changed the game

    When you're losing these games by a few possessions and one of the star players struggles, he deserves the blame..unfortunately, Aldridge routinely doesn't show up in the biggest games..he's Carmelo Anthony , he will give you a few hot games of shooting, but don't expect him to show up in the big ones..
    This team is trash right now outside of Leonard, Aldridge, Green and the games Parker somewhat turns back the clock. They were never going to out star the other four elite teams, their only chance was to out depth them. Once the bottom fell out on the veterans, it was over.

    A crippled Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph (the best of the bunch at the moment, but mostly a non rotation player on this team), qualifies as gutted? Surely even you would trade them for Aldridge.

    No matter what you think of him, they weren't doing better in free agency and if they didn't have him, the future would be Mr. Tunnel Vision, Green and what exactly?

    Those two jumpers were killers, but it's basketball; it happens. Maybe he is a choker and soft, but it's too soon to throw that around after 1 season on a credible team.

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    This team is trash right now outside of Leonard, Aldridge, Green and the games Parker somewhat turns back the clock. They were never going to out star the other four elite teams, their only chance was to out depth them. Once the bottom fell out on the veterans, it was over.

    A crippled Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph (the best of the bunch at the moment, but mostly a non rotation player on this team), qualifies as gutted? Surely even you would trade them for Aldridge.

    No matter what you think of him, they weren't doing better in free agency and if they didn't have him, the future would be Mr. Tunnel Vision, Green and what exactly?

    Those two jumpers were killers, but it's basketball; it happens. Maybe he is a choker and soft, but it's too soon to throw that around after 1 season on a credible team.
    I mean to be fair the Heatles lost in their first year of formation before winning back to back. I think the Spurs did a great job integrating LMA into the offense and defense, but I think the Spurs can only grow from here. The acquisition of LMA gave Spurs fans a lot of hope that they could win, but the reality is that it's tough to fit any player into a team and expect the same output

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    still haven't proven me wrong breh. I'll show you.

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    He's Lamarcus Loser, Carmelo Aldridge..a mid range chucker that shrivels up at the first sign of pressure..the Spurs committed their future to this ing pussy
    He's more like Klay Thompson against legit defenders. (Dude is 3rd wheel material)

    Melo could actually get to the line when his shot isn't falling & doesn't shy away from physicality along w/ being a very good rebounder for his position. He also can pass out of double teams when he isn't being a blackhole.

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    I literally never said the Spurs should keep Splitter..

    Spurs should have never committed a long term deal to big man Carmelo..
    Okay then. Well when you say we shouldn't get LMA....I (and I don't think I'm the only one) assume you want to stay put and keep Splitter. I just remember being a very mediocre team last year. We finished with the 6th Seed and got bounced in the 1st round. There is a whole lot more I need to know from you other than you don't think LMA was "worth it". Did you want some other free agent? Keep Splitter? Stay put? Explain what you wanted the front office to do besides not get LMA........

    I'm not trying to take up for LMA...he played like yesterday. No other way you can put it. And you're well within your rights if you want to take a wet on him for it.

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    I'm not gonna defend LMA like he's the greatest signing of all time, but where would we be if not for his performances in Game 1 and 2? We'd have been swept and it's doubtful we even have homecourt for this series (well, had).

    You guys are placing the blame towards him when it's more than that. The team is collectively just not playing well in the fourth. Shots aren't falling and bad plays are being called. Tony does heroball, David West chucks up some bad shots, and Kawhi isn't being as aggressive as I know he can be. The whole team is to blame for this not just LMA. They're older, they're tired, they're overwhelmed — OKC wants it more, we're fine resting on our laurels and banners but all OKC has is a 2012 Western Conference Champions banner to show for their great team.

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    Spurs should have never committed a long term deal to big man Carmelo..
    bro, stop ... ur becoming hedger

    besides, you've already "taken the L" on this thread, and now you're going back and saying you were wrong about being wrong?
    Obviously Aldridge over Splitter is a no-brainer, and you don't turn down a player of Aldridge's caliber in his prime, even if he's the big man Iverson and a soft jump-shooter(which he is)..
    I don't hate Aldridge, tbh, I was just questioning whether it was worth it to change a successful system for him..

    He has responded well, lately, though, it's what we have been waiting for..I was really excited to get him and thought the Spurs' run would be over without him, although I admit I'm not a fan of his game, he's the big man Carmelo..being in a Spurs jersey seems to have changed his mentality, fortunately..becoming a winner, rather than the player that cried because Lillard had billboards in Portland..
    nobody said it was a terrible signing, nobody said anything about Splitter..I was and am 100% in favor of signing Aldridge, despite not being a fan of his game..people are reading the thread le and forming that conclusion..

    The question is whether changing the system was worth it for a player that the Spurs have treated like a glorified role player(Aldridge), so far, and potentially at the expense of Green, when you just signed both Aldridge and Green to long-term deals.. it's a long-term question just as much as a question for this year..

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    every post is hedging

    i never said we shouldn't sign him, but he sucks

    when the thread looks wrong... "bro i always said we should sign him"
    when aldridge plays poorly.... "bro i always said it wasn't worth big man carmelo"

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    you watch Tim Duncan go from near 40 all star to "Peyton Manning."

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    Tristan Thompson and Cory Joseph was the alternative. Draymond Green was the red carpet long shot. Middleton with Boban and Livio woulda done.

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    I'm going to bump this. HH is complaining for the sake of attention. Criticizing this signing is stupid.

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    I'm going to bump this. HH is complaining for the sake of attention. Criticizing this signing is stupid.
    Thanks for the declaration, it was already on page 1.

    All the past criticisms of LMA are rearing their ugly head right now. If he can't lead the Spurs out of the WCSF against a vastly inferior team then was he really worth it?

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    Thanks for the declaration, it was already on page 1.

    All the past criticisms of LMA are rearing their ugly head right now. If he can't lead the Spurs out of the WCSF against a vastly inferior team then was he really worth it?
    Vastly inferior? Come on. SA definitely better and OKC has flaws, but so does SA. OKC is a finals-level worthy opponent in the 2nd round. Spurs were and should have been solid favorites, but let's quit acting like OKC was some push over my man.

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    Vastly inferior? Come on. SA definitely better and OKC has flaws, but so does SA. OKC is a finals-level worthy opponent in the 2nd round. Spurs were and should have been solid favorites, but let's quit acting like OKC was some push over my man.
    They're not a push-over (much like a healthy Clips team wouldn't have been for GSW), but they're not finals-level and are clearly a tier below GSW and SA--at least we all thought so. Deeps, it'd be one thing if OKC was actually playing good, smart basketball--but they've been just as clumsy down the stretch of games and have been shooting like . They're best is nowhere near the Spurs' best. This ain't trolling dude, going into this series I thought SA would wipe the walls with them...I'm still dumbfounded at what's transpired in the last 4 games

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    Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.

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    Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.
    Not hitting jumpers, so they keep taking jumpers? Brilliant.

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    Not hitting jumpers, so they keep taking jumpers? Brilliant.
    My friend, they are pretty open shots & also, they are killing points in the paint. It's not like they are settling.

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    My friend, they are pretty open shots & also, they are killing points in the paint. It's not like they are settling.
    And that's the problem. Spurs need to go get some contact. West and LMA and KL taking an open 12-15 footer is doing nothing, make or miss. They have to attack the basket. Spurs best hope is they get to the line and draw fouls on the bigs. Shooting open jumpers got spurs where they are. Have to put pressure on their bigs.

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    Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.
    Agreed, they are a of a draw for a 2nd-rd matchup and play with a ton of heart, but SA is just flat out ting the bed against them. Fair or not, Aldridge (and his past choking demons) will be under the microscope if they lose to OKC. Nobody would talk if he came up short against GSW because you'd be expected to lose--but losing and coming up short in the clutch against teams you should beat is awfully David Robinsonny

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    I'm still pretty sour about Softdridge. Those two missed late shots in the 4th were inexcusable. Spurs desperately need another scoring option if Aldridge is gonna disappear down the stretch. Kawhi would have been crucified on here if he was in that situation

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    I'm still pretty sour about Softdridge. Those two missed late shots in the 4th were inexcusable. Spurs desperately need another scoring option if Aldridge is gonna disappear down the stretch.
    Be mad at Anderson

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    Agreed, they are a of a draw for a 2nd-rd matchup and play with a ton of heart, but SA is just flat out ting the bed against them. Fair or not, Aldridge (and his past choking demons) will be under the microscope if they lose to OKC. Nobody would talk if he came up short against GSW because you'd be expected to lose--but losing and coming up short in the clutch against teams you should beat is awfully David Robinsonny
    really? espn had cool stat of some sort. went something like this . game 5 was the first time in the big 3 era since may 1996 (tim,manu & tone) that 3 spurs had 20 points in a play-off and none of the big 3 was involved.

    The spurs with 20+ points then were DROb, Avery Johnson and Vinny Delnegro.

    My point being and a little perspective, Jonathan Simmons who currently can't even crack the team would be a definite starter in place of Delnegro if the supporting casts were reversed.

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