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    Fultz can play SG and w eneed more ball handlers in the starting 5. That's why we drafted him.. Simmons can also slot to the 4.
    Hold onto Fultz and have fun never winning anything.

    I don't even want Fultz, but that fact that you guys want to hold onto a scrub like Fultz and not get a fully healthy Kawhi (assuming reports are true and he is 100%) is just insane. You'd be instant contenders in the East for years to come (depending on Embiid's health).

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    Goddamn Woj caught me for a second. He retweeted that Kawhi is now eligible for the supermax.

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    Fultz was a good shooter at UW, he apparently fixed his shot its not similar to Ben who has awful mechanics Markelle seemingly got the yips and changed form.
    Ya overestimating a bum. At this point I don't even want fultz. We got to many guards.

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    ^

    no 12:01 deal for him,
    he ain't no paddy...

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    You better stay up for a few more hours just in case
    I'll catch it in the morning.

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    no 12:01 deal for him,
    he ain't no paddy...
    MVPaddy is Spurs Royalty brah. He got Paid and Pop and RC up at night past their bedtime.

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    Fultz sucks he is a head case don't need or want his drama...

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    Crazy thought . . . if I were the Sixers and could do it all over again here's what I'd do . . .

    I'd rather have Fultz (if he's actually healthy mentally/physically and his shot goes back to normal) than Simmons as my PG. Let's face it, Ben will never develop a shot not at the rim. Ship out Simmons with some salary (Chandler?) and get back an elite 3&D wing. Fultz is now the starting PG. Honestly, you might be able to get Jimmy Butler-Minnesota is desperate to move him for something. Now, sign Lebron outright with your cap space (Chandler is gone at this point)-I think he would get serious motivation to play for you guys and sign the same deal he signed with the Lakers . . . 4 years, last year is a player option. Now, go get Kawhi. Throw everything at him. Covington/Saric/Zhaire/2021 Heat pick/other young cheap talent/two of your own future firsts.

    So basically you use the fact that Fultz is cheap on his rookie deal and Kawhi and Butler have cheap maxes due to signing their deals under the terms of the old CBA. So your SL would then be Fultz-Butler-Kawhi-LeBron-Joel.

    Thoughts?

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    No i rate Fultz extremely highly. Funny how half this forum doesn't rate Fultz yet want him in deal with us.
    I have to admit I am a Fultz doubter... However more from not being that impressed with him when he played vs Oregon, Ucla, U$C or Zona the only schools that matter in the conference he played college ball in. However he may be Donovan Mitc who also wasn't all world in college he was even less impressive than Fultz but at least he was healthy and led his team to the tourney... But how you feel about Fultz is how I feel about Ingram.
    Welcome to ST... Hope you stick around and hope Philly stomps a mud hole in Boston this year, lol 😂

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    Ya sixer fans drinking the koolaid.

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    Crazy thought . . . if I were the Sixers and could do it all over again here's what I'd do . . .

    I'd rather have Fultz (if he's actually healthy mentally/physically and his shot goes back to normal) than Simmons as my PG. Ship out Simmons with some salary (Chandler?) and get back an elite 3&D wing. Fultz is now the starting PG. Honestly, you might be able to get Jimmy Butler-Minnesota is desperate to move him for something. Now, sign Lebron outright with your cap space (Chandler is gone at this point)-I think he would get serious motivation to play for you guys and sign the same deal he signed with the Lakers . . . 4 years, last year is a player option. Now, go get Kawhi. Throw everything at him. Covington/Saric/Zhaire/2021 Heat pick/other young cheap talent/two of your own future firsts.

    So basically you use the fact that Fultz is cheap on his rookie deal and Kawhi and Butler have cheap maxes due to signing their deals under the terms of the old CBA. So your SL would then be Fultz-Butler-Kawhi-LeBron-Joel.

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    There is absolutely no chance that the 76ers trade Simmons. He is already a star and if he develops a jump shot, he's unstoppable. And plays D, also.

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    And ya laker fans with players think they gonna amount to anything.

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    Judgement day?

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    There is absolutely no chance that the 76ers trade Simmons. He is already a star and if he develops a jump shot, he's unstoppable. And plays D, also.
    He will never develop a jump shot. It amuses me when people say "oh he just needs a jump shot" because from history . . . it basically never happens. Kawhi was an exception to this. Fultz actually has a jump shot and the whole package-I truly believe last year was an aberration.

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    If I had a dollar for every time some one said "And when He learns to shoot" in the NBA I would be a millionaire..

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    He will never develop a jump shot. It amuses me when people say "oh he just needs a jump shot" because from history . . . it basically never happens. Kawhi was an exception to this. Fultz actually has a jump shot and the whole package-I truly believe last year was an aberration.
    Trust me . . . Simmons's lack of a jumper will be exploited very soon.

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    I was gonna fake wojbomb ya guys but decided not too.

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    Simmons is already playing like an All-Star without a jump shot. He can only get better. Giannis doesn't have much of one either and he's still basically unstoppable. The point is that they aren't trading him for anyone, just like Boston isn't trading Tatum for anyone. Not on a rookie contract.

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    I'm not really a Simmons fan. Why do you guys think he's so great?

    A lot of players that were piss poor shooters coming into the NBA, I don't recall too many of them developing into great ones in the time I've been watching the NBA. Maybe with technology these days such as virtual reality (A tool I would never have even thought of using when I was learning to shoot, but that is also due to it not being anywhere near viable when I was a kid) and great shooting coaching to go with it, maybe there's a higher chance players that are piss poor shooters can turn themselves into great ones with the right coaching, tools and hard work.

    I'm from the old school, though, and I believe if you don't have a feel for shooting, then I don't think the chances of you becoming a great shooter are very high. Sure, there is exceptions, but there is a lot more examples of players that were bad shooters that never became a great shooter even with hard work, mostly, in my opinion because they never had or don't have a feel for shooting.

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    Simmons is already playing like an All-Star without a jump shot. He can only get better. Giannis doesn't have much of one either and he's still basically unstoppable. The point is that they aren't trading him for anyone, just like Boston isn't trading Tatum for anyone. Not on a rookie contract.
    I'm not convinced Simmons is actually better than Fultz. Simmons also effectively missed his first year. If you have Fultz 36 minutes a game this upcoming year do you really think he'd be that much worse than Simmons did the past year? If giving up Simmons gets you Lebron and Kawhi . . . then you have to do it.

    As for Giannis . . . he will never be a superstar (just a star) because he can't shoot. It's a real problem and it's not going away anytime soon. I also don't think it's a fair comparison. Simmons makes Giannis look like Curry, haha.

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    I'm not really a Simmons fan. Why do you guys think he's so great?

    A lot of players that were piss poor shooters coming into the NBA, I don't recall too many of them developing into great ones in the time I've been watching the NBA. Maybe with technology these days such as virtual reality (A tool I would never have even thought of using when I was learning to shoot, but that is also due to it not being anywhere near viable when I was a kid) and great shooting coaching to go with it, maybe there's a higher chance players that are piss poor shooters can turn themselves into great ones with the right coaching, tools and hard work.

    I'm from the old school, though, and I believe if you don't have a feel for shooting, then I don't think the chances of you becoming a great shooter are very high. Sure, there is exceptions, but there is a lot more examples of players that were bad shooters that never became a great shooter even with hard work, mostly, in my opinion because they never had or don't have a feel for shooting.
    To me when someone says "he just needs a jump shot" it's as ridiculous to me as saying someone who dribbles the ball off his foot every time "just needs to learn to dribble drive." There's some players where the fixes needed wouldn't be that much (Kawhi simply needed to move his set point more towards the front of his head) and the player has tremendous work ethic where OK the change could happen. But normally, you just have to hope the player becomes less of a liability at the line and can hit the completely wide open corner 3.

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    I'm not convinced Simmons is actually better than Fultz. Simmons also effectively missed his first year. If you have Fultz 36 minutes a game this upcoming year do you really think he'd be that much worse than Simmons did the past year? If giving up Simmons gets you Lebron and Kawhi . . . then you have to do it.

    As for Giannis . . . he will never be a superstar (just a star) because he can't shoot. It's a real problem and it's not going away anytime soon. I also don't think it's a fair comparison. Simmons makes Giannis look like Curry, haha.
    Fultz played like 15 games brah.

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    Kawhi was the face 9f the franchise after his rookie season. All those guys are bums compared to Kawhi.

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    Fultz played like 15 games brah.
    Yeah we're agreeing, I'm saying both of them effectively missed out on their first year in the league.

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