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I mean, there were certainly lottery picks from last year the Spurs could acquire if they really wanted to. That it's being reported that the teams are talking about a trade for Smith means it's worth discussion.
Is this where SpursTalk denizens become absolutely, positively convinced they'll get last year's lottery pick from some team because reasons?
I mean, there were certainly lottery picks from last year the Spurs could acquire if they really wanted to. That it's being reported that the teams are talking about a trade for Smith means it's worth discussion.
Because reasons? Someone already tweeted that the teams are discussing it, though we dont know how credible that is. it's also not some team, it's a team with le hopes in win-now mode that needs an upgrade at the F position. it's not some random trade idea someone came up with
Is it legal to expand the DDR trade to include Phoenix given the S&T rules? Seems like the cleanest way to do it
Yes it is
I know this isn't being discussed but since we're speculating...
Why not Young to Suns, Saric and Smith to Bulls, and Markkanen to Spurs?
I'd much rather just get a future first for Young--or Cam Reddish--but it seem that Saric is injured for most of the season and Smith has looked underwhelming....that isn't much of a return for Thad Young. In fact, you might argue the Spurs need to be compensated for Saric's salary in addition to Young. Smith alone isn't fair value for Young. Plus, creates more roster space issues.
Markkanen is at least an interesting young player who has shown more promise than Smith. If Phoenix's offer is Smith, Saric, and a future first, then I'd do that. Or, if they'd take back Aminu instead of Young and Smith is the payment for Saric's money. Otherwise, San Antonio will get better offers closer to the trade deadline for Young.
No more or less clean to trade Young separately. Saric and Smith would fit into the TE Young creates when he's being sent to Chicago. Unless there's some further deal where SA is moving some salary and combining it with Thad, this Phoenix part shouldn't be holding up the DeRozan trade.
I assume the Spurs originally wanted Lauri in the trade instead of Young, but my guess is the Spurs wanted to pay him a similar salary and he wanted closer to 20M, which no one is going to pay
Fair. Maybe he and his agent are agreeable to reassessing his market value at this point.
Yeah, seems odd now that Ball trade went through that DeRozen deal is hanging out there.
Watch Spurs end up trading for Porzingis
Watch Spurs end up trading for Porzingis
I get why there would be hesitation with Porzingis, but Poeltl + Porzingis is a juicy pairing.
I see there is talk about Jalen Smith being included. I see it now -- they're in win mode. Hmm... don't know if the team would want two long term big prospects. Maybe they would.
Wonder if Luka gets included as well…. He’s posted on his IG story pics of him working out. He can workout but he can’t play in the summer league?
Even though he's likely to enter the season as a rotation player, he's a poor fit and between (eventually) Collins, Landale and the raise he's on track for, I can't envision him being re-signed.
Unless the Spurs are enamored with Smith and/or consumed with their usual misguided "doing right by" Young, true.
Closest thing to a compromise I can surmise, is a top 20 protected 1st from the Suns and the Spurs send back one of their 2nds. Similar to the Tucker to Bucks trade, where the Rockets moved up 9 spots or whatever.
The argument for Markkanen making sense has gone by the wayside with the current roster.
Porzingis can't guard the four.
Last edited by TD 21; 08-10-2021 at 04:01 PM.
How does a trade with the Suns work? It seems Saric + Smith for Young doesn't work?
I do think the Zollins trade was weird, possibly too hasty, especially since these other possibilities are emerging. I don't know if that would halt anything for Jalen Smith since they'd be getting in each other's way before long.
Was the Zollins acquisition officially a trade? i have not seen that.
Don't think I would want to see a Young for Saric/Smith deal. Smith shouldn't be enough after he couldn't get on the court as a rookie.
It would basically be doing Phoenix a giant favor, a good veteran player for 2 guys who for various reasons won't likely be playing for them this year anyway.
Even a first on top rings cheap because of the salary room it takes away in the future.
No, I mean Collins would be above Smith in the pecking order if they were on the same team.
I stand with those against the trade at the moment. Zach Collins is straight up better than Jalen Smith, health aside. Poeltl is much better and dare I say Eubanks is too.
Agree that this is a big favor to Phoenix and Young is someone you'd want more value for.
No .
Zach Collins is actually the best move they've made thus far.
Jalen Smith was the number 10 pick last year, pretty good get imo he was one of the guys I wanted the spurs to draft last year. I’m not so sure young could net us a first rounder even at the trade deadline, his value will go down playing for the spurs
no
The best move so far is jettisoning DePression and actually getting something for him.
I wouldn't mind that, really. A risk but a decent bet. The injury he suffered usually takes 2 full years to be your old self. Decent chance we'd get NY KP, which would be a good acquistion.Watch Spurs end up trading for Porzingis
I've been scouring a lot of other fanbases forums in search of rumors and whatnot, and one thing I've noticed is that the whole "our FO sucks, our city sucks, no one wants to play here" thing is pretty ubiquitous
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