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Good luck Brent.
Guess we have another year of Finley...
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Good luck Brent.
Guess we have another year of Finley...
If we resign Finley or Horry after this, everybody in the FO should be fired. RC, Lindsey, all of them. Barry was by far the best player of the 3 last year, and had proven his loyalty by coming back after the Thomas trade. As it is, he makes the Rockets a of a lot better. They have someone who can hit those 3's after Tmac and Yao draw the defenders...Not to mention, he can help out their ball movement a lot. Their offense used to get really stagnant, cause their pg's sucked. With Barry acting as a secondary ball handler, that's gonna lubricate things a lot for 20 MPG.
Thanks for everything Bones...and I agree with everyone who said Fin should go too. If we a letting the old go and bringing in the new, it should be a full overhaul.
yea but can he stay healthy?
remember seeing him play in the playoffs last year? he looked like he was playing NOT to get hurt. i think at this stage in your career injuries are just around the corner and can really put you out for a long time. especially if you play alot of minutes (20-25 MPG)
It does seem like we gave barry a raw deal here. I'm usually not one to criticize the FO but it would've been nice for the spurs to show some loyalty to barry here, especially after he did the same for us this past season. Oh well, GL brent, you'll be missed.
The problem with the Rockets (besides the fact they can't stay healthy) is that they don't have too many players with mid-range game at this point. Their guys either live in the paint or behind the arc. Brent will just be one more player (however be it a more accurate one) in that fold. I'm a huge fan of his and his ball movement in the Spur's system (it will be lacking for a little bit), but Brent passed up too many point blank scoring opportunities trying to defer to the bigger names on the team during his span with the Spurs and I suspect he will do the same in Houston. Although it never hurts to get a shooter/passer of his calibur, they needed another guy besides T-Mac, and possibly Raefer, with a mid-range game.
Wow...doesn't take much to please you. Bowen, done. Spurs are in trouble. They need reload quick or its going to be a long season.
listen, spurs were an injured manu away from getting back to the finals. lets make minor tweeks and adjustments. as long as we have our core group of guys well always be contending.
so far we have gotten younger. people on this forum panic too much. if Duncan,Parker, or Manu were gone than its officially time to doubt and panic.
not now
I don't like the idea of keeping Fin over Bones, but as a friend of mine pointed out, the Spurs had no Bird rights on Brent since he went to Seattle then came back, but with Fin, they can utilize Bird rights correct?
So this probably came down to finances again.
I know that right now the Spurs are probably worried about LA or Miami luring Kurt away, so I guess in that way it makes some sense, although I still hate it.
Seriously, wtf am I gonna do about my avatar?
People aren't gonna recognize my posts anymore.
Thanks for the good times and big shots, Barry. Of all the dinosaurs on the team, Barry was the one I was hoping they'd keep the most, but apparently the Spurs didn't see it the same way.
Well, I'm convinced. Give him the max.that old man can whoop your a** in basketball.
Seriously, he was great for us back in the day, but he was a freakin' liability and a half against all the teams we faced in the playoffs this year, and he's only going to get slower.
In short, thank you for your contributions in the past, now get lost.
And if you don't like that I'm not kissing his ass, tough . I'm tired of Pop giving Fin a free pass for being a turnstile on defense and not hustling for rebounds at either end while he s on younger perimeter players. It's awesome that Fin came for the minimum while still on Cuban's books for $20 million a year, but that doesn't mean he should get carte blanche to piss away the rest of the Tim Duncan era while sucking hind for 27 minutes a game.
Yeah, Manu was injured. And clearly there's no possibility of New Orleans or the Lakers getting better...
Gotta keep it. At least until Barry plays a meaningful game against the Spurs.Seriously, wtf am I gonna do about my avatar?
People aren't gonna recognize my posts anymore.
That's ok you got George Hill. He'll work out just fine and pick up where Barry left off.
Horry is older than Barry, and was also having injury issues. Finley is almost as old, and apparently (judging by what he does on the floor) less athletic. I don't see anyone guaranteeing that either of them is going to stay healthy this season, do you?
I don't know if you believe in advanced stats, but Barry had the highest Offensive Rating on the team last year (of players who got more than 500 minutes), and was only 6th of 13 among the same group in Defensive Rating
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2008.html
He was a great fit as starting SG. His defensive liabilities were hidden by Bruce taking other teams top perimeter scorer. Offensively, he was very efficient. Finally, we didn't need him to log what would be "starters minutes" (30+) on another team, we needed time for Manu to work in as well. Finally, he gave us multiple options being able to play 1,2 or 3 making for some awesome ball mobility sets with Barry, Parker, Manu lineups. Considering we could have had all that for the LLE, I think the FO made a horrible decision here. There simply isn't anyone as good available for that kind of money.
Exactly. To get younger, guys have to leave. I mean, that's how it works
Trade Pop.
Good guy, had his moments in the playoffs. Some good and some bad.
fna. This sucks a whole lot of suck. Brent was KEY to the motion offense, which is basically what the Spurs do (or did) best.
This makes the Mason signing so much weaker. Unless Mason can see the court like a damn eagle on a perch and consistently make the perfect pass, we just lost a TON on the offensive side.
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The only way to turn this news into a positve is if we dump Finley like an overloaded colon and replace him with a SF/SG who can do what Fin cannot -- namely score, run, pass, and D-UP (Barnes --- pleeeeeeese sign Matt Barnes)
Provided, of course, that Barry could actually play a full season. Eagles get old and die too.
I love Barry. He was one of my favorite Spurs to watch because of the fluidity he brought to the game on the offensive end. I have so many favorite Spurs moments with Barry in them.
That being said, Barry was never a show stopper on defense and EVERYTHING the Spurs have done this offseason has been geared towards getting better on the defensive end - not the offensive end. I honestly think that the FO doesn't see our offensive struggles as the main problem but rather the slip on the defensive end. If thats the case then I do not expect them to bring back Finley but I could definetly see them making a play at a guy like Maurice Evans.
Stay tuned.
The Spurs are going to average 65 ppg this year.
true --
He was having a fantastic year till the leg so as long as he can stay healthy he's still golden in my book.
But the point is he was always better than Fin for us and now we're stuck with the (way) lesser player.
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