Which was the more spectacular performance

[Roxsfan]

13 points in 35 seconds is next to impossible. Everything has to happen just right, it's like one in a million. Somehow I just don't buy it that Jordan couldn't score 81 if he wanted to.

OMG, I actually agree with you

[Roxsfan]

Oh Im sorry, that was on your beloved Dallas Maggots. You guys were suppose to win it all that year huh. Hey, did you see the look on Cubans face when that guy blew that layup...

lol predictable

He's dogging the mavs for not winning that year, ummm I think the lakers were "supposed to" win last year too

[dirk4mvp]

All I see is pathetic attempts by Kobe Haters (aka every Mav fan alive) trying to say Tmac's sub 1 minute scoring outburst was better than an 81pt masterpiece that Kobe carved up. Pure lunacy.

I dare anyone on this forum to post this exact topic on the General Board of RealGM. Let's see the responses.

so is kobe's 81 the best performance of all time?

[Reggie Miller]

I'm still waiting for a Laker fan to address this:

It is possible to think that Kobe Bryant is a worthless piece of as a human being, yet full appreciate his talent. See: Phil Jackson, the Buss family, et ux.

[Roxsfan]

Everything has to fall into place exactly for someone to hit 4 three pointers in 35 seconds, which helps support that there is much more luck involved in it than a player systematically disecting a team for 81 points. 81 points, when you know the guy is going to shoot and probably even know what he wants to do and even be in a set defense with double and triple teams, and still can't stop him.

The final 35 seconds is a mad scramble, have to get that turnover, and hurry up and shoot three pointers, where the defense is all spreadout on the perimeter at the other three point shooters. That's why a guy like Rodney Rogers can hit three 3-pointers in 9 seconds.

T-Mac's 13 points in 35 seconds might have been more off-the-edge-of-your-seat exciting. Kobe's 81 points is more impressive when you think what a player has to do, what level of play that player had to sustain for over 40 minutes of basketball, and when you figure much of it happened against a set defense instead of a mad scramble.

Kobe's 80 points just means that the rest of the Lakers and their Dleague opponent sucked the big one.

Tmac's 13 in 33 seconds will NEVER happen again.......EVER. And it certainly will never end in one of the 3 s winning the game...in a kind of walk off fashion against a definsively great team that has won 4 of these
It is conceivable though, that someone could be a great player on a team playing a tier team and end up with 80 in a few years

[TheMadHatter]

This thread isn't about Kobe's personal life or his character. It isn't even about his career really. It's about one game of basketball he played vs. less than one minute of basketball T-Mac played.

Like I said, someone post this topic on RealGM and let's see the responses. Kobe's 81 vs. T'Mac's 13 in 35. Nobody will do it because nobody here wants to admit that they are just plain Kobe haters. The average fan, NBA player, and basketball enthusiast will almost unanimously agree that Kobe's 81 pt game was far and away a more difficult, incredible, and spectacular feat than T-Mac scoring 13 in 35.

[IronMexican]

I hate real gm.

[Roxsfan]

This thread isn't about Kobe's personal life or his character. It isn't even about his career really. It's about one game of basketball he played vs. less than one minute of basketball T-Mac played.

Like I said, someone post this topic on RealGM and let's see the responses. Kobe's 81 vs. T'Mac's 13 in 35.

The KEY here is highlighted....The game that HE played. See, when the other 4 players on your team suck ass and your opponent(especially the corpse guarding you) sucks ass it is no more spectacular than a 12 year old scoring 67 in a pick up game against 5 year olds

TMAC's 13 in 33 seconds to win a game in walk off fashion will NEVER happen again......EVER. Want to bet on it

[Roxsfan]

Another out of touch fan. The Laker were not "suppose" to win last year. Everyone in Laker land and the rest of the league thought Kobe would be traded. No one knew Gasol would get gift wrapped to the Lakers. The Lakers were the surprise team of the entire league last year, and the media jumped on the Laker band wagon late in the year. Dallas is a disgrace of a team... always have been... and Houston is not far behind

Oh, and arent you guys "suppose" to get out of the first round this year?

I've just added this to favorites, I will bump when the rockets beat the out of your fakeShow.....



you can rationalize all you want that the lakers overachieved, but you and other lake fans were here talking and the celts beat your asses so bad, you guys were not even compe ive.

To the league:
Houston IS your problem

[Roxsfan]

It was a meaningless game early in the season and the Spurs had went to sleep on the Rockets. The Spurs practically gift wrapped that game to the Rockets. If anything, people should be shocked at the epic failure of the Spurs in that game as opposed to the habitual career choking Tmac.

[Reggie Miller]

This thread isn't about Kobe's personal life or his character. It isn't even about his career really. It's about one game of basketball he played vs. less than one minute of basketball T-Mac played.

Like I said, someone post this topic on RealGM and let's see the responses. Kobe's 81 vs. T'Mac's 13 in 35. Nobody will do it because nobody here wants to admit that they are just plain Kobe haters. The average fan, NBA player, and basketball enthusiast will almost unanimously agree that Kobe's 81 pt game was far and away a more difficult, incredible, and spectacular feat than T-Mac scoring 13 in 35.

You made it an issue. After being accused of being a "hater" after some perfectly rational observations, I admitted that I hated the guy as a person in the interests of full disclosure.

Please address any one of the following at your earliest convenience:

1. Physical play has not existed in the NBA during Bryant's career. People no longer get undercut, hacked, and tripped just for dunking or "showboating."

2. Every rule change and rule emphasis during Bryant's career has favored perimeter play.

3. Counting statistics simply tally events in isolation. Rate and efficiency statisitcs attempt to address the cost/benefit analysis required to evaluate an individual in a team sport. I'll spell it out: one ball < five players on the court. , I'll spell it out in a way that even a Laker fan can understand. 2004 Pistons > 2004 Lakers.

[Roxsfan]

I have a hard time taking you serious, but just in case you do stick around... Ive added it to my favorites also. No excuses ok. Injuries happen to every team so suck it up.

wow, I'm threatened.

too bad you Won't have courtside tickets to get a Jack Nicholson-view of the Rocket beatdown your fakeshow will endure.........

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

wow, I'm threatened.

too bad you Won't have courtside tickets to get a Jack Nicholson-view of the Rocket beatdown your fakeshow will endure.........

watch out, he's putting you in favorites and already taking away your injury-excuse........watch out

Like we can control injuries.......

Aren't all predictions based on a team being healthy, what a dweeb

btw, I stole part of your sig

[Reggie Miller]

wow, I'm threatened.

too bad you Won't have courtside tickets to get a Jack Nicholson-view of the Rocket beatdown your fakeshow will endure.........

Being the girl= got I am, these internet tough guys have me clutching my S&W Ladysmith in abject terror... I hope I don't accidentally shoot myself in the uterus.

[Trainwreck2100]

I've just added this to favorites, I will bump when the rockets beat the out of your fakeShow.....



you can rationalize all you want that the lakers overachieved, but you and other lake fans were here talking and the celts beat your asses so bad, you guys were not even compe ive.

To the league:
Houston IS your problem

You don't need to favorite it, if you go to thread tools, just click "suscribe to thread" and then it will be saved in your control panel

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

I mean this: Thanks for helping kill the offseason blues

[TheMadHatter]

There is nothing funnier than a Rocket fan trying to talk .

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

Not if you are the Lakers. See thats the beauty of being a Laker fan. We suffer major Injuries and still steam roll to the championship (Magic '79, Kobe, Ariza, Bynum '08), like I said, no excuses.

Bynum took you to a championship?

Go ahead and tell me what happens to the lakers if they lose Kobe for the entire postseason.........You sir are a homer..........

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

There is nothing funnier than a Rocket fan trying to talk .

yeah there is, a fake-show fan trying to be cool......pl stfu.

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

Come on man, stop being a little sissy. You ing fans from these losing teams are ultr-sensitive. Its just sports talk man. And no I wont be at that game... I only go to the big games like when we play the Spurs, Suns, Cavs... you know, the teams that stick around in the playoffs.

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

Damn I feel like Im playing chess by myself here. Nothing in my post leads you to believe that I said Bynum lead us to a le. All I said was he was one of the three main players on our team that was injured last year during our le run... and even still Laker fans were no making excuses.

good night.

[TheMadHatter]

Wow that's how you argue effectively, throw out the snore emoticon. Not only are you Rocket fans delusional, you're moronic.

I can take talking from Mav fans, they like to stir the pot and I play along. They are actually funny every once in a while.

But Rocket fan brings nothing to the table. No, we don't care about your usual pre-season hype because we all know what it amounts to in the playoffs......1st round exits.

[Indazone]

Here is a list of NBA players who have scored 70 or more pts. Kobe is 2nd all time. Wilt Chamberlin's as a player was off the charts. When I see how many times a player has gone into the 70's in a game, I think that we will see this feat again. It's not a stretch to see someone score over 80 pts again in a game. Now T-Mac's game where he scores 13 pts in 35 seconds...I will go so far as to say that you will never see it again in our lifetime. So many things had to go perfectly in order for him to do it that it's off the charts in probability.

Wilt Chamberlain 100 pts against Knicks
Kobe Bryant 81 pts against Raptors
Wilt Chamberlain 78 pts against Lakers
Wilt Chamberlain 73 pts against Chicago Packers
Wilt Chamberlain 73 pts against Knicks
David Thompson 73 pts against Pistons * Same night George Gervin scores 63 pts.
Wilt Chamberlain 72 pts against Lakers
Elgin Baylor 71 pts against Knicks
David Robinson 71 pts against Clippers
Wilt Chamberlain 70 pts against Syracuse Nationals

[angelbelow]

both are impressive but tmacs game was against us so im compelled to vote for tmac.

[Roxsfan]

Wow that's how you argue effectively, throw out the snore emoticon. Not only are you Rocket fans delusional, you're moronic.

I can take talking from Mav fans, they like to stir the pot and I play along. They are actually funny every once in a while.

But Rocket fan brings nothing to the table. No, we don't care about your usual pre-season hype because we all know what it amounts to in the playoffs......1st round exits.

you sound like a broken record, . Your lakers are going to get a dose of reality when they play the rockets.