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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    For the same reasons it is fact that there was a George Washington.
    Actually, it is nothing like that.

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    Actually, it is nothing like that.
    Sure it's not.

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    Care to explain yourself?

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    How come the bible leaves such holes in their Jesus account? Was he a stoner or a thug or something in his teenage years?
    There are several possibilities. Being intelligent includes knowing we don't know all the answers. If I recall, the Bible says he left his home area and traveled for more teachings. It is thought he went to the Far East. Then there's the possibility of records being destroyed that did account for much of his life. Impossible to say and speculation is fruitless.

    It should be noted that Jesus is mentioned in other cultural historical works.

    It should be noted also, when talking about the Creation, the Sumerian text is more precise about it, and even more specific about the creation of mankind. It does not contradict the Torah, but it does contradict the traditional thought from the English interpretation. We get an age from Sumerian text than mankind, as we are today, is about 60,000 years old. Not 6,000. The 6,000 number is entirely derived from the generations of Adam. Adam was the first man named by name from Mankind. Two different words in the Torah (mankind and Adam) but both translated as Adam!

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    everybody read this book.
    come back in a week and ramble on.
    http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Carp.../dp/0842345523

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    Aren't you the person who called me a piece of filth?
    I was referring to your article, but if you want to characterize in another light, I’m not going to try to talk you out of it.



    Now you are lecturing me-- and even moreso JUDGING me and my relationship with God. That is the epitomy of self-righteousness for you to think that it is your job to judge me and whether or not I am a person of faith.You are the one using YOUR criteria to judge who belongs and who does not.
    I pointed out that your smug little statement that; "I was in church today, how about you" paralleled the religiosity of the Pharisees. I couldn't care less if you mischaracterize that as being judgemental. The shoe fit you nicely, don't you agree? You confuse facts with judgement, that's on you.




    I posted what I did to respond to the person who called me ANTI-GOD and ANTI-RELIGIOUS to show that I am neither.
    And I posted on your comment that you were "anti-religious" and then went religious on him with your "I was in church today, how about you".

    I guess we're now clear on who was posting what about which comments. (I already was clear, I combined the two for your benefit).





    This is a political discussion and I have the duty to voice my opinions of the POLICY of a person running for office- POLICY with which I do not agree. I do not agree with claiming that it is God's will that people unite to build a pipeline in Alaska. I find that offensive as a person of faith and I have a right to speak out against it.
    Duty? As if your opinions are the facts that set the record straight? That's mighty pompous of you plots. And no one attempted to infringe on your right to "speak out", you certainly have the right to defend yourself when you're called out <and I stand by what I said, verbatim>.





    You are just mad because you are Republican and it has nothing really to do with faith at all.
    I am neither mad nor am I registered as a Rep. From the tenor of your reply, your the one filled with outrage (it's good to let off steam), I merely took exception to your vicious, and unfair attack on a Christian woman for political expediency's sake.




    As for your analogy- it is just plain stupid. A person in an art gallery does not particpate, they only spectate. At church I am a participant in the faith life of my community.
    Bragging about how you "were in church today" while purporting to be "anti-religious" doesn't get a free pass, and it was a fine analogy as you didn't mention anything in your statement about being a "participant".

    Additionally, being a participant in church is hardly a litmus test for piety.


    <Preparing for another disassociated, rambling lecture>

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    Evolution has nothing to do with the ORIGINS OF MAN, that's abiogenesis you ing dumb Christian re s. The Christian right is collectively the DUMBEST group of individuals in America.
    Thank you for the complement. I will give your regards to Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia...


    ....oh before I go, did you answer my question on all actions of being of equal moral value? After all, I am such a dummy.

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    Dinosaurs once roamed the Earth.

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    Thank you for the complement. I will give your regards to Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia...


    ....oh before I go, did you answer my question on all actions of being of equal moral value? After all, I am such a dummy.
    And they can spell so well, too. LOL.

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    Everytime I see efrem1 post I think of that Family Guy episode with "Efrem the re ed rabbit"

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    Everytime I see efrem1 post I think of that Family Guy episode with "Efrem the re ed rabbit"

    Let me introduce you to my fellow "dummies."

    http://www.frontline.org.za/articles...nderAttack.htm

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    BTW Evolution and adaptation are not the same things...

    Evolution at its core suggests that speciation is all driven by natural selection.

    Extrapolated to define the origins of DNA or life however, evolution is useless and non-scientific; bordering on blind faith.

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