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  1. #151
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    I'm trying to reserve judgment, but this story is just too much.

    So a girl who just happens to be an enthusiastic Mc/P supporter (so much so that she volunteers to leave her home town and volunteer all over the US) just happens to be the victim of a crime that has political implications.

    A few things that bug me:

    1. A girl by herself, after dark, in an unfamiliar place on a street that is strangely absent of other pedestrians at 9pm. But she gets out to use the ATM?

    2. The assailant just happens to notice her bumper sticker instead of taking the money and running. He then takes the time to scratch a B onto her face - all the while it's only 9pm and another car or other pedestrians could come by at any time.

    3. She refuses medical treatment. At the very least she should have agreed to a tetanus shot.

    4. She found a camera awful fast for a victim of violence. Maybe I'm just a creature of my own vanity, but I wouldn't be so eager to be photographed and I'm not sure I'd be so emotionally prepared for my close-up.

    5. The B is too neatly done and the black eye looks pretty minor. For a spur-of-the-moment act of rage, the wounds aren't characteristic. The wounds are just bad enough to showcase the abuse, but not medically serious. Obviously, emotional effects can't be photographed.

    6. All of this just happens to take place in the October Surprise stage of a hotly contested election cycle.

    Maybe this is all just a coincidence and maybe the poor girl is simply courageous. I'm going to try to err on her side while maintaining my skepticism. Maybe there are a lot of facts we don't know that make more sense. I really hope the press examines this kindly, carefully and responsibly, but I do hope they examine it.

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    I seriously don't know what to make of all this. The internets is an amazing thing.

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    ^she is courageous. to sit or stand so quietly and still with a knife in her face.

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    I really hope the press examines this kindly, carefully and responsibly, but I do hope they examine it.
    You don't have to worry about that. I bet there are no less than a million Obama backers looking to discredit her this very instant.

    If this is fake, which honestly it does look a little fishy, we will hear soon enough. Although kindly, carefully or responsibly will not describe how this will be examined.

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    Does she owe taxes? Has she ever been evicted? What were her grades in school?

    Can't wait
    lol. TimVp may be an Obama supporter but at least he "gets it"

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    At least Drudge had the decency not to sensationalize the event.

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    I agree with the others that the fact that the B is relatively neatly carved... which would be nigh impossible to do with a victim that, I assume, is struggling, is tough to swallow. But it gets even more unlikely when that B is backwards. I mean, that makes no sense at all. Unless you're looking into a mirror. Or it's supposed to be an 8 or something lol.

    One way or another, it's certainly strange.

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    Color me skeptical.
    Ok the second link works.
    If I had to think anyone is up to shenanigans, it would be the image hoster.
    Nope, looks the same on Drudge.
    I seriously don't know what to make of all this. The internets is an amazing thing.
    Where the is whottt when you need him?

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    Reminds me of that guy on the Electric Company who painted a number 8 on a bald guy's head.

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    hmmmmm....perfectly scratched to avoid laceration. hmmmmmm......with a knife.

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    The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 400 pounds with a large build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
    oh snap




    J/K I love BigBlack.

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    Although kindly, carefully or responsibly will not describe how this will be examined.
    You know, this is one of those no-way-to-win situations. If it's a hoax and not examined it's a horrible statement of the depths of our country's state of partisanship. If it's real and an abuse victim is put through the public wringer, it's a horrible message to send to other victims of violence.

    Does anyone happen to know about the area of PA the story claims the assault took place?

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    I agree with the others that the fact that the B is relatively neatly carved... which would be nigh impossible to do with a victim that, I assume, is struggling, is tough to swallow. But it gets even more unlikely when that B is backwards. I mean, that makes no sense at all. Unless you're looking into a mirror. Or it's supposed to be an 8 or something lol.

    One way or another, it's certainly strange.
    Only way the B makes sense is if she was on the ground and he was over her facing her legs.

    Or he's dyslexic

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    I don't get why so many people are hung up on the backwards B. That is the least fishy thing about the image.

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    Does anyone happen to know about the area of PA the story claims the assault took place?
    if front of a mirror in a hotel room?

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    I agree with the others that the fact that the B is relatively neatly carved... which would be nigh impossible to do with a victim that, I assume, is struggling, is tough to swallow. But it gets even more unlikely when that B is backwards. I mean, that makes no sense at all. Unless you're looking into a mirror. Or it's supposed to be an 8 or something lol.

    One way or another, it's certainly strange.
    If the photo was scanned it could be reversed. Or taken in a mirror. And, just for the record, it would not be at all unusual for a victim to stay perfectly still while being assaulted. Victims freeze, or obey orders in hopes of not being abused further.

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    if front of a mirror in a hotel room?
    You are a bad, bad clam.

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    You are a bad, bad clam.
    it's a joke. kinda like this story.

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    I don't get why so many people are hung up on the backwards B. That is the least fishy thing about the image.
    The eye is the thing that doesn't look right to me. I've seen my share of black eyes and usually something is puffy...the eyelid, under the eye...something should be swollen if you get hit hard enough to produce that kind of look. , how many black eyes has Ginobili had the past couple of years? I remember there was a welt under his eye that took about a week to clear up. This girl's eye looks perfectly normal and proportionate with the other eye. She must have the healing powers of Wolverine

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    Puffiness doesn't have to go hand in hand with a black eye. You can get a black eye by getting punched in the nose.

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    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/2...ics-by-robber/

    "As for the reversed/upside-down B, all I can tell you is that I got this from a source close to Ashley, who assured me that she wanted to go public (it was also on her Twitter page) and that the photo came directly from her."

    Oy.

    "The attack began at 8:50 pm ET and Ashley called the police at 9:30 PM ET. Initially, she was robbed, ran away after the robbery, and the robber followed her to her car. At that point, he became enraged at the bumper sticker and began beating her and scratched the ‘B’ into her face. Ashley went to the hospital early this morning after initially refusing medical attention last night, and had an MRI and/or a CAT scan. Doctors believe her cheek will heal fully."

    He followed her to her car after she ran and, became enraged by her bumper sticker and those are her wounds? Double oy.

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    Curiouser and curiouser.

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    And, just for the record, it would not be at all unusual for a victim to stay perfectly still while being assaulted. Victims freeze, or obey orders in hopes of not being abused further.
    ok, so, how do you think it went?

    bad guy: "give me all your money."

    victim: "ok, just please don't hurt me."

    bad guy running away: "goddamit is that a mccain sticker on your ride, ?"

    victim: "yes, i'm a volunteer."

    bad guy comes back: " well, because of that, i'm going to be extremely careful as i carve a letter in your face without cutting it, ok?"

    victim: "ok, because i'm frozen in fear, so it should be easy."

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    Do we have her credit score yet?

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    Do we have her credit score yet?
    You don't think anyone should be looking into this, Tim? Honestly?

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