manu should be dealt

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

...and as for this garbage, we wouldn't have even been IN the series if Manu hadn't helped to get us there. He only had 18/5/4/2/1 in game 5, 30/2/10/3/1 in game 6, and 23/2/2/3/2 in game 7...

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2006/series_sasdal.html

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Manu is not in his best form right now - he is forcing things sometimes because the team is going through a rocky ride. Remember that these players have only played about 10 full NBA games together!

Give them 2 1/2 months and talk to me after the RRT.

Until then, STFU with the "sky is falling, let's trade them all" BULL .

[InK]

I just dont get how you morons dont get tired of posting the same chewed up garbage over and over and over again.

[024]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

wasn't it ginobili who made the 3 that broke the tie? spurs were up by three after ginobili's shot and then he committed the foul. so he basically just erased his own heroics.

[BigBigSpur]

check the dates, I rode in on the bonner "bandwagon"
and now I'm being proven right

It seems that you're always right??? And it seems that you can tell the future exactly??? Then you tell us when the SAS will trade Manu?

[1usamotorsports.com]

Once again , when was the last time Manu took over a game .??? When was the last time he was consistant in 25 points or more?

[Kori Ellis]

Once again , when was the last time Manu took over a game .??? When was the last time he was consistant in 25 points or more?

Is that the criteria for deciding if someone should be traded? Then the whole league should be traded.

[timvp]

I don't understand this thread at all. By the responses, you'd think Ginobili was struggling.

But in reality, his stats are almost identical to his stats last year. And as he gets healthier, his stats should get even better.

Right now his overall field goal percentage and his two-point percentage are career-highs. He's rebounding better than ever. His assists are better than any point in his career other than last year .... and last year he was playing point guard for part of the season. His scoring is down slightly on a per minute basis but that will go up once he starts hitting for a better percentage on threes and from the line.

Considering Manu didn't get to play in any training camp or preseason and Pop has been messing around with his role, Manu is playing about as well as humanly possible. If you would have told me Manu would have needed virtually no recovery time after the surgery to get back to being a top level player, I would have thought you were liar. But that's exactly what he's done.

There's not a trade out there I even ponder if it involves Ginobili.

[kace]

lol at the number of post of the thread in such a quick time blasphemy here to try to trade manu who is the only reason for some fans here to support the spurs.


anyway, right now manu isn't clearly playing well enough. he had great times since his return but shows a real lack of consistency.

but there's really nothing that makes me think he's not simply getting back in shape and that he couldn't get back to his usual level.

and manu at his usual level and at his price is just untradable. too good and too cheap.

and i'd really liked to see him end his career with the spurs. it should be that way in a perfect world.

[SpurSupremacist]

Yeah. Think about all these guys that have been traded somewhat recently: Ray Allen, Pau Gasol, Shaq, KG... The only one you could say was a wash, could be Billups/Iverson. Then again, they swapped for basically players on the same position.

Ever heard of Al Jefferson?? Ever heard of Devin Harris? Wait, I shouldn't have included Harris, Kidd is completely washed up... Manu is only half way there.

[SpurSupremacist]

Ignore him.

He still thinks Manu for Vince Carter would've put this team over the top, when in reality Vince Carter is one of the biggest wusses this league has ever seen, and all he does is jack up jump shots.

Carter is a franchise player. Manu Ginobili is not.

[SpurSupremacist]

None of the player we would get can play like a MVP. Manu is not consistant... but when he is on, he is the best player in the league.

I laughed. Hard.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Carter is a franchise player. Manu Ginobili is not.

mrspurs will be proud of you.

[SpurSupremacist]

mrspurs will be proud of you.

I guess I don't get it.

[cherylsteele]

you got to think a little harder then that, get to the concept. which is that past accomplishments don't translate to future les. At some point a player starts to lose his effectiveness on the court, this is happening to Manu, and it's only going to get worse, the injuries are only going to get more frequent as well.

Manu is still playing, while Sean is in the press box, who has more potential?
At least I am thinking...you are not.

[smeagol]

I don't understand this thread at all. By the responses, you'd think Ginobili was struggling.

But in reality, his stats are almost identical to his stats last year. And as he gets healthier, his stats should get even better.

Right now his overall field goal percentage and his two-point percentage are career-highs. He's rebounding better than ever. His assists are better than any point in his career other than last year .... and last year he was playing point guard for part of the season. His scoring is down slightly on a per minute basis but that will go up once he starts hitting for a better percentage on threes and from the line.

Considering Manu didn't get to play in any training camp or preseason and Pop has been messing around with his role, Manu is playing about as well as humanly possible. If you would have told me Manu would have needed virtually no recovery time after the surgery to get back to being a top level player, I would have thought you were liar. But that's exactly what he's done.

There's not a trade out there I even ponder if it involves Ginobili.

This proves that deep inside you are a card-carrying COM memeber

[vander]

hey, It turns out that the trade value of a player on his rookie contract is equal to the $$ of the first year of his extension! (if he has one)
I was unaware
this opens the door to a few more trade possibilities

[vander]

Manu is still playing, while Sean is in the press box, who has more potential?
At least I am thinking...you are not.

yep
manu > elliott, therefore... 09 championship

genius!

[Josepatches_]

I don't understand this thread at all. By the responses, you'd think Ginobili was struggling.

But in reality, his stats are almost identical to his stats last year. And as he gets healthier, his stats should get even better.

Right now his overall field goal percentage and his two-point percentage are career-highs. He's rebounding better than ever. His assists are better than any point in his career other than last year .... and last year he was playing point guard for part of the season. His scoring is down slightly on a per minute basis but that will go up once he starts hitting for a better percentage on threes and from the line.

Considering Manu didn't get to play in any training camp or preseason and Pop has been messing around with his role, Manu is playing about as well as humanly possible. If you would have told me Manu would have needed virtually no recovery time after the surgery to get back to being a top level player, I would have thought you were liar. But that's exactly what he's done.

There's not a trade out there I even ponder if it involves Ginobili.

+1.

End of the thread

[Timmy]

No.

[vander]

wait, I thought Manu was supposed to improve over time, as he comes back from the injury

I'm sure there's some young team out there that needs player like Ginobili to be a veteran presence, a leader, show them how to play with heart etc.
what we need is youth and someone with low-post moves. Hill/TP/Mason can hold down the 1 and 2 spots just fine, with Finley getting some time too I guess. bowen/ime can be serviceable at the 3 for one last year, but a young 3 or 3/4 kind of like Josh Smith is what we should be looking to get out of Manu.

[it's me]

wait, I thought Manu was supposed to improve over time, as he comes back from the injury

I'm sure there's some young team out there that needs player like Ginobili to be a veteran presence, a leader, show them how to play with heart etc.
what we need is youth and someone with low-post moves. Hill/TP/Mason can hold down the 1 and 2 spots just fine, with Finley getting some time too I guess. bowen/ime can be serviceable at the 3 for one last year, but a young 3 or 3/4 kind of like Josh Smith is what we should be looking to get out of Manu.

Enjoy it ing hater

[ElNono]

Ever heard of Al Jefferson?? Ever heard of Devin Harris? Wait, I shouldn't have included Harris, Kidd is completely washed up... Manu is only half way there.

Al Jefferson is a great player, but looking at Boston's record and at the T-Pup's record tells me right away who got favored the most with that trade. And don't forget that Dallas traded both Harris and Diop for Kidd.

Manu will be fine. He definitely knows he's not playing great, but it's a long season. I want him ready by the time the Playoffs come around.

[Avitus1]

Blah blah blah blah BULL !

[jemanuel]

ok hear me out before you all howl me down... please?
trading manu would help us greatly, its just a matter of trading for the right piece.
mason would be our starting SG (more than qualified for that role) and the player we trade for manu can fill a hole in our team.
trading him for a quality SF or C would definitely put us close to the top of the league.

i know just about every spurs fan loves manu, but im just saying that pulling the trigger on a deal with the right price would immensely improve the team.

lets just remember that manu cost us the conference finals series against dallas mavs!!

yeah you have a point, knowing manu is hot in the free agent market...but you forgot something that without manu spurs won't be in the conference finals in the first place...that's a fact!!! MANU 4 LIFE!!!