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Disagree. First off, I don't really buy the Mutombo rumors. All along, it was pretty obvious that Mutombo wanted to go back to the Rockets. As far as I can tell, he was using the Spurs as leverage to make sure the Rockets sign him. With Morey obsessed with one upping the Spurs, it was a smart ploy by Mutombo.
And secondly, I highly doubt it's a coincidence that the Spurs release Tolliver and replace him with Croshere ... who both happen to have basically the same type of game. Bonner is currently the Spurs' answer to the perimeter four that Pop loves. The Spurs want insurance in case Bonner can't cut it or gets injured. Tolliver was potentially that but he couldn't shoot. Croshere is the same type player except less of a ceiling and more history of being able to shoot.
Add to that the fact that the Spurs went after Najera in the offseason and the fact that Ludden said that the Spurs are looking for a bigman that can spread the floor .... and it appears clear to me that Bonner insurance is basically what the Spurs are after at this point.
what does he worth as a low post defender ? i can't remember and that's what is really important IMO.
At best he's about as good as Bonner. Probably worse.
I'm not sure about this Bonner insurance argument.
we learned that Spurs are very active in talks with other teams. we know that they have only a few assets. whatever moves the Spurs try, very likely it will be a package move, considering the structure of contracts outside the big three. so it's very likely that Matt is part of some of this proposals. a signing of Croshere would IMO be another evidence for such scenarios and give the Spurs more flexibility for trade negotiations.
currently Matt's trade value is not that bad. also not great of course, but maybe better than many here believe. his shooting numbers are the best of his NBA career, 3 million per year are not a bargain but also not a cap killer and the contract expires in the magical year 2010.
I can see quite some teams that might see use for an almost 50% 3pt shooting big man. some of this teams are borderline PO teams and might look to adjust their roster. most of all the Sixers, but also the Buck and Bobcats. to a lesser extend teams like Cavs and Heat could find some minutes for Bonner.
can't tell who we would be able to get from the mentioned teams (there is also always the possibility of a 3 teams trade), point is that a package of of Matt+JV/Ime+picks (Splitter rights) might be the most attractive offer we can assemble without hurting the team much.
OK. thanks.
i can't remember a single game this season where a good offensive big (PF or C) didn't played well against us.
indeed if we look at all the games we had, the opponent quality bigs scored 171/307, so at 55,7 % against us, if i don't make any mistake.
when i say quality bigs, i mean the usual bigs who can score enough at the low post (gasol, bynum, howard, shaq, amare, al jefferson, bosh, west, sheed, yao, gooden, okur, K-Mart, nene, kaman).
even Marc gasol and Bogut hurted us when we met them.
well usually these big men score at a high %, but 55.7 % against us still seems a little too high IMO.
I saw tim having a hard time a lot of times. Another big who can defend would be great.
Mutembo being serious or not to sign with Spurs is quite irrelevant.
What is relevant is if Spurs were serious about signing him. It surely looks like Spurs wanted to sign him.
First, Tolliver being waived has nothing to do with Crosher. It has everything to do with him sucking and his contract becoming guaranteed.
Second, in your own words : "I'd prefer a shotblocking big but when you are picking off the waiver wire, finding an NBA-caliber big is hard enough as it is without getting specific of need.". Croshere is basically the only legit vet PF/C available.
The situation isn't the same at all than last summer.
Last summer, Bonner was deep in the doghouse. He is now a starter and aside of Duncan, no Spurs bigs have played more minutes per game than him for four years.
His article was written yesterday. He likely knew that Spurs were close to sign Croshere when he writes it.
To me, the situation is very simple. Spurs need another vet bigman. They tried to get Mutombo who was the best available 2 weeks ago, it didn't work. They will now try Croshere who is currently the best available.
lets hope this guy is better than oberto.....or can => obertos stats
Austin played for the Pacers in the pre-season and did not look good.
Confirmed in the other thread
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Link to Spurs being serious about Mutombo? The only reason the Spurs got linked to Mutombo is because Mutombo said the Spurs were trying to sign him. I'm skeptical about whether that is true. Especially considering he was hinting at the Celtics' major interest ...... until the Celtics came out and said they weren't going to sign him.
I didn't say it had anything to do with it. I said that they both have the same skillset.
Never heard of the timvp guy you are sourcing. Plus, that doesn't explain Tolliver or the interest in Najera. I can't imagine it's all one big coincidence that the Spurs keep trying to fill a backup big spot with the same skillset that Bonner possesses.
Coming into the season when Pop and Duncan were asked which player needed to step up this season, they both said Bonner. If Bonner failed, they wanted a similar type player to be able to fill in. Hence the Bonner insurance.
He said the Spurs were looking to trade for a young big who could stretch the floor. Croshere isn't exactly a young big and the Spurs didn't trade for him . . .
To me it appears as if the Spurs want to make sure they have a couple of options in the "perimeter four" department. Their pattern of moves this season indicate as much. They'll give Croshere a look by giving him the 8-12 minutes Tolliver was getting to see if he can hang.
I'd say there's probably about a 60% chance Croshere is kept for the rest of the season. Pop believes in having a perimeter four next to TD and Croshere can fit into that mold. He's not very good defensively but Pop will probably convince himself that he can turn Croshere into a Ferry-esque defender. Plus Croshere is probably a better rebounder at this point than Bonner or Oberto, so that will be a positive in his corner when the Spurs have to make a decision by the end of his second 10-day contract.
its a 10 day contract chill
Realisticly Ferry and Croshere are pretty similar.
Croshere a good shooting 4 who can bang rebounding wise.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._no_big_hurry/
Either Mutombo was flat out lying, Spurs were really interested in him. Given that he said that after having re-signed with Houston, I don't see the interest for him to lie."I wanted to play about 40-something games," said Mutombo. "The only money that was on the table for me was San Antonio and Houston. Yao Ming talked to me about coming back.
Last summer, it was quite obvious that Spurs had some serious doubt about Bonner. Spurs trying to sign Najera was quite a proof of that.
But, as I said in the previous post, Bonner's status has changed with his good season. Spurs should have way less doubt about Bonner abilities. I think it's at the point that they aren't looking to have a plan B anticipating Bonner failing during the playoffs.
And BTW : Najera 1/16 3PM/A, Bonner 50/106 3PM/A.
Spurs have finally been quite lucky not getting Najera.
Finally a guy who can slam the ball.
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