Rasheed Wallace on the Spurs?

[td4mvp21]

We wouldn't need Rasheed on the block...none of our other bigs besides Duncan ever play on the block. We could use Rasheed on the block, but it wouldn't be a necessity. We could call plays for him on the block or we could have him draw the defense out because he shoots 35% from long range. We could always sign him for a small contract in the offseason, I think he'll still have something left for next season at least. It'd be nice to have him this season though...

[Spur-Addict]

Of course talent wise I would choose Rasheed Wallace...no question about it.

But, I've watched Rasheed a lot of the years and I love his talent but there is another side of him that can be very damaging during a playoff run. I watched that ECF Playoff Series in 2007 against Cleveland and saw him come undone by foul calls and the Spurs couldn't have a player go off the handle like that especially if they play the Lakers in this year's WCF...if it happens.

The Spurs are about professionalism and composure and you need that during money time and I've seen Sheed blow up too many times and those things will hurt your team especially when you are trying to win a championship.

I love his talent....it's just his other side that's a HUGE risk!!!

I agree completely. But I look at it like this.

1.) Is acquiring a player like Sheed with his potential risks worth the obvious need that he fills?

2.) Will Sheed Gel with this team dispite his abilities that we need?

I think the answer to these questions are both yes. Although he is a bit different in personality, I think he can gel. Also, I think we need some aggression and volatility in this lineup to kick things in gear from time to time.

He gives us many things, such as an added post option especially when Tim is sitting down for rest and/or fouls.

[Roadies4life]

I found out that we are going for Al Jefferson...perfect combo, him and Tim.

[xtremesteven33]

Wallace played fantastic under Larry Brown. There is absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind he would play fantastic under Popovich as well.

[Spur-Addict]

Wallace played fantastic under Larry Brown. There is absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind he would play fantastic under Popovich as well.

Awesome point.

[jason1301]

Would we give up Manu to get Rasheed? I love-em both.

I wouldn't give up Manu for Kobe let alone Rasheed, but that's just me lol

A combination (some of them, not all of them) of Bowen, Bonner, Kurt Thomas, Oberto, Finley, Udoka, JV could do it.

[MarHill]

We wouldn't need Rasheed on the block...none of our other bigs besides Duncan ever play on the block. We could use Rasheed on the block, but it wouldn't be a necessity. We could call plays for him on the block or we could have him draw the defense out because he shoots 35% from long range. We could always sign him for a small contract in the offseason, I think he'll still have something left for next season at least. It'd be nice to have him this season though...

I disagree.

We would need his rebounding and post defense to help Tim.

I know he's still very talented. I'm not questioning that.

But, the other side of him is the huge risk and you can't ignore that!!

[MarHill]

Wallace played fantastic under Larry Brown. There is absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind he would play fantastic under Popovich as well.

He blew up on Larry Brown too.

That's no guarantee...he wouldn't do that to Pop.

You have to consider the other side of him..not just his talent.

[xtremesteven33]

He blew up on Larry Brown too.

That's no guarantee...he wouldn't do that to Pop.

You have to consider the other side of him..not just his talent.

I dont see it happening with Tim Duncan as the Man in the locker room. Wallace has never been with a player like Tim. EVER.

[EricB]

He blew up on Larry Brown too.

That's no guarantee...he wouldn't do that to Pop.

You have to consider the other side of him..not just his talent.

Eh, I really don't remember him blowing up on Larry Brown, but I think Rasheed Wallace would know what would be at stake and would like one last little good pay day a nice MLE for a year or two, and I think he would be a great teammate.

[MarHill]

I dont see it happening with Tim Duncan as the Man in the locker room. Wallace has never been with a player like Tim. EVER.

I would agree that Sheed hasn't played with a player like Tim. But those Detroit teams were very good and went to 6 straight Eastern Conf. Finals and won a NBA le. So he's been around success and still acted up.

If the Spurs could get him.....that would be the risk.

[MarHill]

Eh, I really don't remember him blowing up on Larry Brown, but I think Rasheed Wallace would know what would be at stake and would like one last little good pay day a nice MLE for a year or two, and I think he would be a great teammate.

Not with Larry Brown in a verbal confrontation...but he still got technicals in the ECF series the year they won the championship.

That's the risk with him though.

Very good talent..borderline great talent but an enigma!!

[Baseline]

Sheed is a Carolina guy who played for Dean Smith.

Pop is an honorary Carolina guy due to his relationship with Larry Brown.

The mutual respect there would be very high. Sheed can buckle up and play right when he wants to, and if he was in San Antonio, he would see rings in front of him like never before. So he would be a good citizen.

If we had Sheed, we would sweep the Lakers, and beat the Celtics or Cleveland in 5.

As another poster said, it's such an attracitve idea that it hurts to even think about. Sheed would literally be about the best fit for the Spurs of any player in the league.

[timtonymanu]

this would be to good to be true.

realistically we'd have to give up the Big 3, Mason, Hill, Bowen, or Thomas for the trade to actually work.

Udoka, Vaughn, Bonner, Oberto, and Finley are the guys i would give up but they dont equal Rasheed. Also i think Finley's too in love with this team and Pop is too in love with Finley for Finley to agree to the trade. Bonner is the best trade option out of the guys given above but the other guys would be worthless to Detroit unless Vaughn is brought to mentor Stuckey there. That would be scary to think cause Stuckey is already good.

[tp2021]

I would agree that Sheed hasn't played with a player like Tim. But those Detroit teams were very good and went to 6 straight Eastern Conf. Finals and won a NBA le. So he's been around success and still acted up.

If the Spurs could get him.....that would be the risk.

He is not a crazy fool like Ron. He isn't a locker room cancer. He is a loudmouth. If you can get Sheed, it would be stupid not to. It shouldn't even be a discussion.

[mystargtr34]

There's obviously huge respect between Pop and Sheed. They embrace each other whenever the Spurs and Pistons meet, and Pop has gone out of his way numerous times to praise Sheed, at one point during the 2005 season calling Sheed "a top 5 talent in the NBA".

The are some interesting scenarios going around, but i dont see anything happening via trade. The most likely possibility is Pop waits until the off season and they offer him something starting at the MLE, for about 3 years. Theres no secret Sheed has one of the best basketball minds of all the players, so i dont think he would have a problem picking up plays and fitting halfway through the season, like he did in Detroit, but I cant see the Pistons taking anything from the Spurs in a trade, outside of the big 3.

[galvatron3000]

I'm thinking the Spurs are getting a deal done because everyone expected them to resign Croshere to another 10 day contract and they didn't. Something is going on, whether or not it involves Sheed or any big name is the question but they are looking to sign someone for sure.

[Ice009]

Joe is not that stupid. Im sure he would make you guys trade one of your big 3. But then again Joe isn't going to trade Sheed unless he gets an expiring contract and a player that can play, not a loser.(Gasol for Brown)

No disrespect but out of Tony, Manu or Duncan theres no one on your team that I would want.

Maybe we can work out some sort of three team trade where your team gets expiring contracts and a good player in return? Joe could trade Rasheed, but then Rasheed can turn around and say he's not playing for that team like he did with Atlanta. If Rasheed wants to go to the Spurs it might be in Detroit's best interest to accommodate him if they want him traded. They did it for Billups.

Most probably Detroit holds on to him though and lets his contract expire at the end of the season. It really depends if Joe wants to get something in return for him. If he wants to get something in return then I'm sure Rasheed isn't going to want to play for any team that doesn't have a chance to win it.

[Ice009]

The spurs should have gotten Wallace when he was traded from Portland or Atlanta but hardly anyone here even wanted him at that time. That was the time to get him.

I did. When Rasheed said he's not playing for Atlanta I got excited and thought that the Spurs should try and swing a deal for him. His stock was at it's lowest then, but that didn't bother me at all. I wonder if the Spurs even tried to make a move to get him?

[SenorSpur]

Of course talent wise I would choose Rasheed Wallace...no question about it.

But, I've watched Rasheed a lot of the years and I love his talent but there is another side of him that can be very damaging during a playoff run. I watched that ECF Playoff Series in 2007 against Cleveland and saw him come undone by foul calls and the Spurs couldn't have a player go off the handle like that especially if they play the Lakers in this year's WCF...if it happens.

The Spurs are about professionalism and composure and you need that during money time and I've seen Sheed blow up too many times and those things will hurt your team especially when you are trying to win a championship.

I love his talent....it's just his other side that's a HUGE risk!!!

There's no doubt that Wallace represents a huge risk. He is truly an enigma. Yet his talent is very seductivem and he does come with baggage. That said, he could be the closest thing we've had since Horry left the building.

For whatever it's worth, I've read in separate interviews that Jermaine O'Neal and Zach Randolph both credit Rasheed Wallace with introducing them to the ways of NBA life, when they were in Portland. They both indicated how he "worked them over relentlessly", as rookies, at different times, in an effort to improve their game. Apparently, he was a good "practice" mentor for both of them. If Wallace truly has that type of willingness to mentor, I certainly wouldn't mind him doing the same for Ian next year.

I've often heard some of Rasheed's previous coaches refer to him as one of the "smartest players" they have ever coached. Of course, no one would know that because of his hot-headedness.

[SenorSpur]

There's obviously huge respect between Pop and Sheed. They embrace each other whenever the Spurs and Pistons meet, and Pop has gone out of his way numerous times to praise Sheed, at one point during the 2005 season calling Sheed "a top 5 talent in the NBA".

The are some interesting scenarios going around, but i dont see anything happening via trade. The most likely possibility is Pop waits until the off season and they offer him something starting at the MLE, for about 3 years. Theres no secret Sheed has one of the best basketball minds of all the players, so i dont think he would have a problem picking up plays and fitting halfway through the season, like he did in Detroit, but I cant see the Pistons taking anything from the Spurs in a trade, outside of the big 3.

I agree that's the more likely scenario. Spurs have no assets in which to facilitate an in-season trade for Wallace. Too bad because we sure could use him now.

[jdev82]

finley for sheed. maybe throw in bonner or hill. then we'd add hariston to our RRT players at the three as a 10th man, sheed starts at center, rmJr starts, and bbowen starts. i hope they make this happen.

[Nathan Explosion]

We've been looking for a PG to groom behind Parker and now that we've got one, you want to trade Hill away?

Besides the big 3, the next "untradable" players are Mason, and Hill, with Bowen and Thomas being in the "if the deal is right" category. Everyone else is expendable for Sheed.

[jdev82]

the way i look at it, there's 3 things to look at.

1. is sheed willing to work for less money to win a ring?
-hes currently making 13 mill.
2. if not, we will have to clear cap.
-nobody outside the big three make enough to clear!
3. are we willing to give up 1 of the big three?
-most likely tony.

[SenorSpur]

the way i look at it, there's 3 things to look at.

1. is sheed willing to work for less money to win a ring?
-hes currently making 13 mill.
2. if not, we will have to clear cap.
-nobody outside the big three make enough to clear!
3. are we willing to give up 1 of the big three?
-most likely tony.

No need for any of that. Just wait until summer.