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You don't survive decapitation to suffer the effects later.
And then the inmate sues, claiming inhumane treatment
You don't survive decapitation to suffer the effects later.
I am not justifying execution with protecting society or the people who have to take care of inmates. I am justifying it as a punishment suitable for the crime of murder.
i'm gonna throw my hands up and say thank God I live in TEXAS where we got an express line to the needle and don't around with trash murderers and rapists.....
blood is on one persons hands...nicholls.
he chose to risk his life when he committed those heinous acts.
the dead and raped are not comparable to spilt milk. if he deserved to die to prevent those acts, then he deserves to die after the fact as well.
What about both? As I intimate?
i think you misunderstood my post... i meant that a woman will say or do anything in order to avoid being raped. no one wants that happening to them.
here you go again... instead of blaming the KILLER..you are blaming other people.
If they bear no responsiblity why bothering placing guards at all?here you go again... instead of blaming the KILLER..you are blaming other people.
I do believe the courthouse and the system in place to secure Nichols are at fault. But they didn't commit the acts for Nichols, he did those things of his own free will. I think Nichols should be held responsible for the killings and the courthouse held responsible for the poor security and prisoner handling.
Yeah, but I wonder find it interesting to go back to the case of the train derailment and find the people who wanted that man held accountable for the results of his actions and compare their opions on this issue to that one in the context of the authorties being held accountable in the same manner.
why don't we just stick to this issue....
I think pointing out selective application of peoples ideas of accountability is very relevent to this
The resposibility for the events of the man who parked his truck on the tracks is far greater than that of the courthouse security. The man purposefully wanted his truck to be hit by the train. The courthouse security did not want Nichols to be in a position to kill anyone. They didn't hand him the gun.
But the crux of that arguement was negligence, not intent. He didn't intend to kill anyone by his actions.
The point being that the situations are different, so you can differentiate them, but people don't give everyone and equal measure of what they want out of acountability.
regardless, nichols SHOULD BE KILLED... the train derailment is a different issue..they should kill him too
The thinking is getting to Clandestino, he's finding it difficult.
Anyhow, another question:
Is a violent society one that places a low value on life?
It's not negligence to purposely put you car on a train track in order for the train to hit it. You are PURPOSEFULLY trying to get the train to hit your car. The courthouse is negligent because it was not purposefully trying to let Nichols escape, get a weapon, or kill a person. That is a HUGE difference that seperates these two incidents completely from comparrisson.
why don't you just stick to the situation at hand... nichols killed and raped... he deserves nothing but death...
manny will say anything in order to take the blame off the KILLER!
So him leaving his truck on the tracks is no longer negligence? Well, if you want to believe that, feel free, but I guarntee you in the courtroom everything in that case is going to center around the world negligence.
He didn't intend to kill anyone but himself, yet his actions were negligent.
Don't take my word for it, search for some quotes form the prosecuters and I guarntee you that word has come up a lot.
So unless you are arguing the man had intent to kill the people on the train, it's negligence that caused it.
Much in the same way negligence was a main contributor to Nichol's escape.
Actually, if you want to get technical about things, he hasn't been convicted on anything. Not rape, not murder.
No Clan, the ultimate blame lies with Nichols, but there are many factors here. I understand you live in a black and white world, but the world is more complicated than that.
because he killed the judge..
In his 2nd trial, which was declared a mistrial like the 1st.
I don't know the evidence of the specifics in the case, but I know for damn sure that you haven't looked into it.
In the end it doesn't matter, whatever he gets for the murder charges is going to trump any rape conviction.
not all killers are murderers. this is not news.
that attention wanting lil that parked his truck on the tracks and walked away needs to pay the price too...involunatry manslaughter, however many counts of it...if they want to put him in a hospital for the rest of his life, so be it.
nicholls, however, is a cold blooded murderer, and i guess rapist from what i've read here, and he needs to pay the price too. this time he has is a blessing. if he is at a point that he is coming to know Jesus before his death, that is the lord giving him another chance at salvation. he's gonna have years on death row, so he'll have his time.
Is a violent society one that places a low value on life?
Is a society that places low value on life a violent one?
YES.
which is why we have to rid ourselves of the most horrificly violent violators of society.
nickles put low values on multiple lives, including his own, and thus acted in the most violent ways imaginable...rape and murder.
we are a society that places low value of life for only the most violent of criminals.
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