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    After viewing that report, I started to wonder -- that's why I'm asking what they did to specifically rule it out.
    That makes you a paranoid conspiracy theorist.

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    That makes you a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
    From my reading, they didn't exclude the possibility of the chips' being red paint.

    If you believe they did, let me know how they did it.

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    From my reading, they didn't exclude the possibility of the chips' being red paint.

    If you believe they did, let me know how they did it.
    Dude; you're crazy.

    I suggest you go read about Adam & Eve or join the flat earth society.

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    I suggest you go read about the composition of paint.

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    Do you think PhD chemists can tell the difference between red paint and thermite?
    If you have two colors of paint pigments that are mixed for a specific color, and then a fire burns the nonmetallic components out, it is real easy to have nano thermite type residue.

    from wiki: pigment

    Other ISO standards pertain to particular classes or categories of pigments, based on their chemical composition, such as ultramarine pigments, anium dioxide, iron oxide pigments, and so forth.
    Iron oxide pigments: Sanguine, Caput Mortuum, Oxide Red, Red Ochre, Venetian Red, Prussian blue
    Ultramarine, originally the semi-precious stone lapis lazuli, has been replaced by an inexpensive modern synthetic pigment manufactured from aluminium silicate with sulfur impurities.

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    Proof of explosives!



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    The flash Chump and Blake don't want you to know about!


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    Black smoke is a sign oxygen deprived fires,the fire did not burn at full strength .



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    The pod underneath the belly of the plane proves it was a military aircraft.





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    Numerous cameras at the Pentagon and yet we only see a few frames?


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    We've been over every one of the issues raised in your bloated GIFs.

    Seriously, work on those. They're ridiculous.

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    We've been over every one of the issues raised in your bloated GIFs.
    Seriously, work on those. They're ridiculous.

    Translation this 911 person has their together I want no part of him.

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    We've been over every one of the issues raised in your bloated GIFs.

    Seriously, work on those. They're ridiculous.
    Now you know how the rest of us feel when you and your buddy Blake keep calling us tin foil hat heads that gets old too.

    Just admit the 9/11 commission is barely 10% truth and left out much needed information like WTC7 or at least admit the government is not on the up and up and I will stop. If not the GIFs continue......


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    Translation this 911 person has their together I want no part of him.
    No. They have been so thoroughly debunked in years past, I don't remember the details. Chump might, but I don't.

    You guys are better at raising the dead than any 9/11 conspiracy evidence.

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    The answer lies with building 7

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIOM1Dh1AX0

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    Since the 9-11 CTers like to copy and paste ad inifinitum, let's see if we can get some good stuff here.

    It might surprise you CTers but there is a whole cottage industry built up around your bull .

    They don't sell T-shirts, mugs, or crappy videos.

    http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24912447824934

    http://www.911mysteriesguide.com/

    http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.pdf

    Here is a gem: The 9-11 "truthers" in their own "like, words". Icky.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66640147&hl=en

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/1227842.html

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/

    http://wtc.nist.gov/

    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

    http://www.911myths.com/

    Best one out of all the lot so far:
    http://www.debunking911.com/

    Mike Walter talking about the plane hitting the pentagon, and how irritated he is with the 9-11 "truth" movement for lying about what he said.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPUDktZpCU

    Link to a TON of debunking links:
    http://www.debunking911.com/links.htm

    Here ARE SOME REALLY PRECIOUS LINKS.

    9-11 "truth" scholars turning on each other. You thought they were unstable and kooky when they talk about the government, wait until they start talking about each other.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/911_infighting_links.html

    Shabby, Self-Serving Internet Reports by Pseudo Journalists and Activists Cause Webb Family Grief - It's Time for Real Journalists and Activists to Shun Demagogues, Hysterics and Profiteers

    by

    Michael C. Ruppert
    A whole page of youtube debunking videos

    A whole page of decent debunking links and one of the best ones so far.

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    Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

    If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

    An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

    The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:
    1. Think of the stupidest possible
    2. Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bull
    3. This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

    IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

    THEREFORE:
    IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

    1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

    or

    2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.

    If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

    Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

    In either case it boils down to this:

    If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

    1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

    or

    2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.


    There are no other possibilities.

    Which is it?

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    If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

    1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

    or

    2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

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    Just because someone doesn't think WTC7 fell due to gravity why should you feel you have to insult them, or call them out as a nut?

    I think the the government is hiding something about the Pentagon attack why should I be grouped in with the conspiracy nuts?

    Your lack of common sense clouds your mind to enable to properly cipher a good honest question from an off the wall theory tells me your small brain is very limited. And i mean that not as an insult, but as an honest observation from your postings I have read.

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    Just because someone doesn't think WTC7 fell due to gravity why should you feel you have to insult them, or call them out as a nut?
    What did you think caused it to fall?

    I think the the government is hiding something about the Pentagon attack why should I be grouped in with the conspiracy nuts?
    What do you think they are hiding?

    Your lack of common sense clouds your mind to enable to properly cipher a good honest question from an off the wall theory tells me your small brain is very limited. And i mean that not as an insult, but as an honest observation from your postings I have read.
    My good, honest question is this:

    What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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    I know you asked mouse, but here is my take: I find the official account more plausible, but I do not have confidence that all relevant angles have been investigated yet, nor that what is known has been liberally disclosed.

    IMHO, the what really happened question isn't answerable. The 9/11 logomachy is, IMO, a battle between contending myths. I'm plenty skeptical a nuts and bolts understanding of 9/11 will ever be declassified, if it is ever in fact reached to begin with.

    Focusing on what made the buildings fall is a red herring IMO. The real questions I want to know is what made our security and intelligence fail, and how did US officials exploit the ensuing insecurity?

    I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer to this.

    Nor am I convinced that the extraordinary official adjustments to 9/11 will be any more effective against a future attack.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 04-12-2009 at 05:27 PM.

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    Source: THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY ((C)1911 Released April 15 1993)

    LOGOMACHY, n. A war in which the weapons are words and the wounds
    punctures in the swim-bladder of self-esteem -- a kind of contest in
    which,
    the vanquished being unconscious of defeat, the victor is
    denied the reward of success.

    'Tis said by divers of the scholar-men
    That poor Salmasius died of Milton's pen.
    Alas! we cannot know if this is true,
    For reading Milton's wit we perish too.

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