Link? Liar.
Link to where I said his PCT was slight?25% is not slight, asshole.
C'mon Chump...use my own ing words for once rather than you leadbrained interpretation of them.
Weak .
The last two pages.Link?OMFG. I already quoted that. Scroll up, pussy. And you didn't say anyone's "PCT was slight" although now that I think about it, that's just the kind of nonsensical tangent you'd bring up to try to distract from your being owned.Link to where I said his PCT was slight?
Nice try.
LMAO, the best you can do is say I should quit because TimVP contradicted himself? And you think you are winning this argument?
Look my point is...
TimVP = Loves AJ
Whott = Hates AJ
TimVP = doesn't like Barry
Whottt = likes Barry
TimVP = doesn't particularly like Horry
Whottt = generally likes Horry
The only thing we agree on is Malik Rose...that should tell you it's more than just a homeristic alliance.
Oh and you hate Malik Rose so don't act like you have any kind of objectivity on this subject?
That whole debate was a tangent initiated by Solid D. That's my point. I didn't ask you guys to come along...Yeah, tangents, like blocks/PF being a significant indicator in judging big men.
It became more of a tangent when you guys turned it into Malik's shotblocking VS Nazr's....
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Can anyone own Whottt in this thread or is it just, Chump, AHF, MIA, T Park, FWD, and Solid D?
Half of those are the guys that couldn't read during the Horry VS Nazr shotblocking thing...those guys don't even own their ABC's much less me.
By the way...can you ever be funny? I realize you think you are very funny...but only about 1 in 100 of your clever little posts elicits a laugh...and I am still waiting for my first
Oh wait let me guess...you want to "meet me" again now don't you?
What do I have to be objective about?
Malik was a great guy off the court. On it, he didn't do for the last year and a half and was beat out by our geriatric bench brigade.
We traded him for a 27 year old natural offensive rebounder who significantly upgrades our front court depth and will be a regular in the rotation (compared to Malik being a regular in garbage time).
Considering how much you worship Malik's ass like he was some kind of walking double double machine, I don't think you have room to lecture about the term "objective."
nothing more to add, I totally agree
What are you talking about?Half of those are the guys that couldn't read during the Horry VS Nazr shotblocking thing...those guys don't even own their ABC's much less me.
By the way...can you ever be funny? I realize you think you are very funny...but only about 1 in 100 of your clever little posts elicits a laugh...and I am still waiting for my first
Oh wait let me guess...you want to "meet me" again now don't you?
You are a glutton for punishment for sure.
I've been more complimentary of Nazr than you have of Malik Rose....I am much more objective.
I have acknowledged Nazr's O boards and Garbage work will fit in well on this team....I just simply refuse give him credit for being what he isn't, and what he hasn't shown himself to be, a good passer, a willing passer, a guy with a jumpshot, a good defender, an unfoul prone player, ...and I refuse to say he increases our chances of winning a le this year and I am still waiting for someone to explain to me how he will...Malik may not have been the garbage man Nazr is already...but he brought a lot of other things to this team...the most important of which is experience.
You can't say that trade helped this team yet, in terms of winning a le, and have a factual basis for doing so, and you are wrong about this guys passing ability and J...
You want to point to his garbage work then go ahead...but there's more to the game than that and I don't think we are a better team right now than we were with Malik. It's not like Nazr is getting more minutes than Malik was anyway.
And for all you know Nazr's butt is going to end up glued to the bench as much as Malik's was. Horry has 5 ing rings, and is proably the smartest player in the NBA...he's not that easy of a guy to beat out...regardless of what his stats are...ask Malik.
In the same vein, you can't say that it hasn't helped the team.You can't say that trade helped this team yet, in terms of winning a le, and have a factual basis for doing so, and you are wrong about this guy passing ability and J...
And you want to lecture me about my math? Nazr's getting about 15 minutes a night, Malik was getting DNP-CDs.It's not like Nazr is getting more minutes than Malik was anyway.
How the was Rose helping out our team as much as you say? Keeping the towels off the floor at the end of the bench? Keeping Manu properly hydrated? Bringing Massenberg his walker after the game so he could make it to the locker room?
So at worst, we'll just go with Horry like we did last year since Malik couldn't beat him out last year or this year.And for all you know Nazr's butt is going to end up glued to the bench as much as Malik's was. Horry has 5 ing rings, and is proably the smartest player in the NBA...he's not that easy of a guy to beat out...regardless of what his stats are...ask Malik.
You have finally convinced me that keeping Malik would have made no difference at all this season.
Thank you.
Actually, it has, regardless his performances, don't forget his salary
Yeah...and at worst Shaq will go off on us for 66% again...something he never did when Malik was in the rotation against him...whether Drob was healthy or not.
Well obviously if he was used stupidly again it wouldn't have...but you don't seem to realize that Malik was getting more consistent PT this season and he was playing better with the reduced minutes....You have finally convinced me that keeping Malik would have made no difference at all this season.
Thank you.
This season Malik really wasn't in the doghouse...Horry got a few DNP CD's this season too...
Your stupidity is unfortunate...what I should have convinced you is that not playing Malik important minutes against the Lakers last year was a mistake....I mean what could it have hurt? Shaq shoots 67% against us instead of the 66% he shot against Rasho and Horry?
But of course that would require you to utilize thought independent of Pop...something you struggle with.
Good call, the coaching staff's opinions of Rose had never been higher, that's why they traded him.This season Malik really wasn't in the doghouse..
Well gee...I wonder more teams don't use our patented "two healthy bigmen on the entire team" that we just used in during our recent slump.
So? Horry's gotten DNP CD's also, so has Mass...That's Pop.And you want to lecture me about my math? Nazr's getting about 15 minutes a night, Malik was getting DNP-CDs.
Malik was averaging 17 minutes per game.
Well let's see...Again why don't you look at what Malik did in the two Phoenix games this season....How the was Rose helping out our team as much as you say? Keeping the towels off the floor at the end of the bench? Keeping Manu properly hydrated? Bringing Massenberg his walker after the game so he could make it to the locker room?
I think those contributions might have helped more than the DNPCD Nazr got...but that's just me...
Are you so desperate that you're comparing the two games we had all our guns (Tim, Manu, Tony) healthy for that Malik had the privilige of being on the pine for vs. the one that Nazr sat out along with Tim and Manu?
Now I know you're desperate.
Good call, the coaching staff's opinions of Rose had never been higher, that's why they traded him.
LMAO...Care to show me where they dissed Malik? Everyone I saw said trading Malik impacted the team...
No what's really funny is what everyone on the Knicks has said about trading Mohammed...
You need to realize what the Knicks said about Mohammed...Players, Coaches and GM....they all took a piss...
and you know what? Do you think they miss him? Do you honestly think that? Look at their record now.
I don't mean the record earned with Mohammed carrying their inside, that of 4th worst in the entire NBA...I mean since they dumped him.
Are you so desperate that you're comparing the two games we had all our guns (Tim, Manu, Tony) healthy for that Malik had the privilige of being on the pine for vs. the one that Nazr sat out along with Tim and Manu?
Now I know you're desperate.
What about the first game? And that, Malik played well in the second game...he damn sure played better than DNPCD.
And you know what's really funny Aggie...If Malik Rose had a game like Nazr had tonight there would be 25 posts by you on this forum talking about how bad Malik sucks...
TO's Fouls...everything you hate about Malik...and this was against the ing worst team in the NBA.
, if Malik had 8, 8, and 2 (blocks, not turnovers), I'd be happy.
I'll go one further than that: if Malik averaged 8 and 8 I'd be the president of his ing fan club.
Malik averaged 10 and 6 off the bench playing beind Duncan and Robinson and you still ripped his ass.
Who are you kidding man?
Go back to telling me I should quit because TimVP bailed on me....because you will reveal you are full of it if you continue trying this crap.
You might be happy but you wouldn't remember it...Malik had 2 double doubles off the bench the week he was traded....Nazr was averaging about 3 and 1 around that time and you acted like we just drafted Duncan when we traded for him.
Back when he was doing that, I was a Malik fan.Malik averaged 10 and 6 off the bench playing beind Duncan and Robinson and you still ripped his ass.
Who are you kidding man?
It was last year (8 and 5) and this year (6 and 5) - diminishing stats since getting paid - that were the problems.
So to use Whottt logic:The fact remains...Malik 2 rings, one playing a huge role, Nazr 0 rings.
We know we can win with Malik...it is speculation to say we can with Nazr. And no matter how stupid you are...that fact will not change.
Malik 2 rings, one playing a huge role, Jermaine O'Neal 0 rings. We know we can win with Malik...it is speculation to say we can with Jermaine O'Neal.
Malik 2 rings, one playing a huge role, Elton Brand 0 rings. We know we can win with Malik...it is speculation to say we can with Brand.
Malik 2 rings, one playing a huge role, Kevin Garnett 0 rings. We know we can win with Malik...it is speculation to say we can with Garnett.
Malik 2 rings, one playing a huge role, Yao 0 rings. We know we can win with Malik...it is speculation to say we can with Yao.
While all these statements are factually true, they are also completely irrelevent. OK, Malik has more rings then all of the combined. But what the is the point? Jaren Jackson has a ring and John Stockton doesn't. I know who the better gaurd was, though.
Yup, I loved those championships in 2000 01 02 and 98.We know we can win with Malik...
Fantastic years.
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