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    TP says that the dinner topic was the team next year and that Pop asked him which player he prefered from Vincarter or RJ.
    wow, so it was either Carter or RJ????

    interesting. Which one did Tony pick?

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    Looks like Valencia has a pretty stacked team. Victor Claver, Kosta Perovic, Shammond Williams, Florent Pieturs, etc.

    Is De Colo expected to start?
    They are trying to waive Shammond Williams.

    De Colo starting or not will depend on who they will signed this offseason.
    They haven't a lot of money because their main sponsor (Pamesa) has withdrawn so there is a good chance that Nando end up as a starter.

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    Looks like Valencia has a pretty stacked team. Victor Claver, Kosta Perovic, Shammond Williams, Florent Pieturs, etc.

    Is De Colo expected to start?
    At the second level of Europe they play in Eurocup (like Euroleague's D-League) they have a good roster. The best Eurocup rosters right now by far is Valencia, Bilbao and Panellinios. As the rosters are now one of those teams should win it.

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    It looks like Nando will be the starting PG for Valencia.

    He scored 15 points in the latest preseason game:
    http://www.marca.com/2009/10/01/balo...254433251.html

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    It looks like Nando will be the starting PG for Valencia.

    He scored 15 points in the latest preseason game:
    http://www.marca.com/2009/10/01/balo...254433251.html
    thanks for the feedback. Good news for him after a quite disapointing euro.

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    It looks like Nando will be the starting PG for Valencia.

    He scored 15 points in the latest preseason game:
    http://www.marca.com/2009/10/01/balo...254433251.html
    Good news. Even if he will play shooting guard at the NBA level, De Colo getting a lot of minutes at point guard will quicken his development.

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    Stash him, bring him here in 3 years.

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    Nando scored 22 points yesterday for the last preseason game. http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=61561

    The first game of the regular season is Sunday but Nando has had a heck of a preseason.

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    Some news about Nando:

    Nando has a nice start of the season.

    The positive side is that he is playing a lot of minutes and scoring a lot of points. He is Valencia's best scorer. The negative side is that he quite struggles to do the PG duties. He can do great passes but isn't a consistent enough passer for the moment. He also drives too much when the paint isn't open.

    Valencia is 3-1 in Spanish league. They are also qualified for the Eurocup after having a Belgian team in a 2 game series (Valencia made a big come back after having lost by 15 in the first game).

    This Sunday, Valencia will play against Caja Laboral. It's De Colo vs. Splitter.
    Dennis Lindsey and Claudio Crippa will be at the game: http://www.tubasket.com/noticiaDetai...ter/colo/17037

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    So its no longer Tau Ceramica we hate but Caja Laboral

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    So its no longer Tau Ceramica we hate but Caja Laboral
    The sponsor name changed but the team administration, IIRC, is mostly the same.

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    De Colo is in fact looking nice in Spain. after 6 games Valencia is 5-1 and DeColo is averaging 14 PPG in 29 MPG. (3 APG, 3.5 RPG)
    what would be the conditions to bring him in next summer? (he does have a NBA drop out clause I assume?). he could become a very nice option to replace Mason.

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    De Colo is in fact looking nice in Spain. after 6 games Valencia is 5-1 and DeColo is averaging 14 PPG in 29 MPG. (3 APG, 3.5 RPG)
    what would be the conditions to bring him in next summer? (he does have a NBA drop out clause I assume?). he could become a very nice option to replace Mason.
    have to see what happens with the teams cap,

    finley, gino, bonner, mason contracts expire

    resigning gino and bringing over splitter will costs about 10m (gino@MLE or gtfo, splitter@MLE)

    i think de colo will come over next season, depending how this current roster does...if it hits the s again, total revamp of roster plz

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    have to see what happens with the teams cap,

    finley, gino, bonner, mason contracts expire

    resigning gino and bringing over splitter will costs about 10m (gino@MLE or gtfo, splitter@MLE)

    i think de colo will come over next season, depending how this current roster does...if it hits the s again, total revamp of roster plz
    I know about our situation. question was, what would it take to get DeColo. (what is his buy out with Valencia). if we know this, it's easier to speculate if - for example - it's possible to bring in him AND Splitter for the MLE.

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    De Colo still does well in Spain! (after 9 games he is averaging 13PPG and 2.7 APG)
    maybe the best news are, how consistent he is performing. no off games till now. that's impressive for a 22 years old player, who had to take a pretty big transition this summer from the France league to Spain.

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    Man, almost forgot about him. Anyone has footages of his recent games in the bigger leagues?

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    I also forgot about him. It sure is nice to know a back up PG is getting primed for next season if necessary. Throw in Splitter, and you have a wealth of talent lined up for the Spurs.
    If only the Lakers weren't so stocked...

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    Good to see Nando doing well. He and Jerrells both will be interesting to watch as prospects for an extra PG next season.

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    This guy is nothing special, if he ever comes over he'll be our 15th man nothing more.

    Average speed, not athletic, slow shot release, average range from the vids I saw of him a while back. Supposedly is a below average defender as well. Not NBA material in my opinion.

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    ^agree jerrells too, no thank you Mr. De Colo

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    R. Beaubois > De Colo

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    This guy is nothing special, if he ever comes over he'll be our 15th man nothing more.

    Average speed, not athletic, slow shot release, average range from the vids I saw of him a while back. Supposedly is a below average defender as well. Not NBA material in my opinion.
    You may be right, but averaging 13 ppg on the elite level of professional basketball in europe at 22 years old is pretty damn good. I wouldn't trust what some websites have to say about players cause I remember bellineli who had a quick release, unlimited range, and was the second coming of manu and he has not been a very good player yet in the NBA. As long as this guy has heart and is willing to work he can very will be a solid NBA rotational type player.

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    R. Beaubois > De Colo
    Why do you think that? Before coming to the NBA (and in the NBA) beaubois really has not done much of anything..Just wondering since you probably follow the french teams closer than me..

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    A little update and Nando's year with Valencia.

    The positive side:
    The team is doing very well (12-4 in Spanish league and qualified for the Eurocup top16) and Nando is a big part of it as he is the starting PG. He has shown an ability to score and has also made some big shots. For a young player discovering a new league and team, it's really good. He has quickly emerged as one of the best young talent in the Spanish league.

    The negative side:
    I had some doubts about his ability to play PG and he really struggles at playing that position. A stat to show it: he played 26 mpg in Spanish league and average 3.8 turnovers for 2.5 assists per game. Scorekeepers are less generous with assists in Europe than in NBA but it remains really bad. Nando is arguably one of the most turnovers prone PG in Europe. A lot of these turnovers came from bad passes. Nando isn't an enough solid passer to be a full-time PG: he is careless when he makes an easy pass and tries too much flashy but inefficient assists.
    Another negative point is that he has had a little incident with his coach (Neven Spahija). About two months ago, he was put on the bench after having his 6th turnover of the game in the third quarter. Nando complained about it to the coach and to an assistant coach while he was on the bench. As a result, Spahija benched him for the whole 4th quarter and said after the game something like "Nando must speak less and listen more". It was just and isolated incident without consequences but it's noteworthy.

    Overall, Nando is showing he is talented but he is also showing that he likely never will be a good PG. I don't know what are Spurs plans with him but a good solution would be to sign him next summer and assigned him a whole year in Austin where he would bulk up and defend athletic SG/SF.

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    Thanks for the update Bruno

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