Tiago Splitter

[Spurs Brazil]

It's all here:

http://www.48minutesof .com/2009/...splitter-news/

It says he'll stay with Tau next season and will be in San Antonio in 2011

[bishopospurs]

I´ll try:

Tiago Splitter will join the NT on July 28th, together with Barbosa, Varejao and Nene.
In August of next year (2010?) he will be joining the San Antonio Spurs, team where the famous argentinian Manu Ginobili and american Tim Duncan - considered one of the 3 best big men in the world - play.
With his value at record highs, after an excellent season in Europe, he is living the life he asked to God.
Close to his family and friends, and a bright future.
Playing in the NBA is a dream he has since he was a kid.


Well...it says something like that...basically...

sounds like the writer is not exactly an insider

[Big P]

I´ll try:

Tiago Splitter will join the NT on July 28th, together with Barbosa, Varejao and Nene.
In August of next year (2010?) he will be joining the San Antonio Spurs, team where the famous argentinian Manu Ginobili and american Tim Duncan - considered one of the 3 best big men in the world - play.
With his value at record highs, after an excellent season in Europe, he is living the life he asked to God.
Close to his family and friends, and a bright future.
Playing in the NBA is a dream he has since he was a kid.


Well...it says something like that...basically...

As long as you got the part about him joining the Spurs next August.

[oligarchy]

Section 2. Rookie Contracts for Later-Signed First Round Picks.
Except as provided in Section 3 below, a First Round Pick who does not sign with the Team that holds his draft rights for any portion of the three (3) Seasons following the NBA Draft in which he was selected (and who did not play intercollegiate basketball during such period) may enter into either (a) a Rookie Scale Contract in accordance with Section 1 above, or (b) if the Team has Room in excess of the applicable first-year Rookie Scale Amount, a Contract covering no fewer than three (3) Seasons that provides for Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses in the first Salary Cap Year up to the amount of the Team’s Room and increases or decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in subsequent Salary Cap Years in accordance with Article VII, Section 5(c)(1).

They can spend more than the first year scale provided they are under cap, which they will be next year.

[Spurs Brazil]

sounds like the writer is not exactly an insider

It's not

[bishopospurs]

They can spend more than the first year scale provided they are under cap, which they will be next year.

Can he sign a deal now where he plays this year within the current cap and next year expands to accommodate the 2010 cap?

[tempest186]

Being under the cap has nothing to do with it. The Spurs can offer more since it will be three years after he was drafted. The 48MoH article that cites Bruno's work is a fantastic explanation about why.

[oligarchy]

Can he sign a deal now where he plays this year within the current cap and next year expands to accommodate the 2010 cap?

He can sign now for the rookie scale, as a rookie exception. Next year would just be part of his normal rookie scale increase.

I believe he was 26th..

1st: 866.5
2nd: 931.4
3rd (opt): 996.4
4th (opt): 80.3% increase possible over 3rd year salary
QO: 47.6% over 4th year

[Marcus Bryant]

If he comes over this year, he will be a RFA in the summer of 2013 after the two guaranteed years and the two team option years.

If he waits until next year and signs a three yr deal, he will be a RFA in the summer of 2013.

He gets no closer to free agency by coming over this summer.

Spurs can agree to let him become a free agent after the 3rd rookie contract season.

[bishopospurs]

what if they agree not to pick up the options on the 3rd year

[oligarchy]

Being under the cap has nothing to do with it. The Spurs can offer more since it will be three years after he was drafted. The 48MoH article that cites Bruno's work is a fantastic explanation about why.

..and Bruno read the CBA. They can offer what they have under cap, or use the MLE, if over. Cap does have something to do with it.

[bishopospurs]

Does anyone think Marc Gasol would have been a better pick in the 2007 draft than at least Marcus Williams? Or do you think we would be in the same boat as Splitter?

[angelbelow]

in hindsight gasol probably woould have been a WAY better pick. glen davis too. especially over marcus wiliams. OR if we took gasol or big baby with the 29th and tiago with the 33th. but whats done is done.

[Mel_13]

Spurs can agree to let him become a free agent after the 3rd rookie contract season.

Doing so would make him an unrestricted free agent. The Spurs would have no Bird Rights and would have to use cap space or the MLE to keep him.

[Obstructed_View]

Does anyone think Marc Gasol would have been a better pick in the 2007 draft than at least Marcus Williams? Or do you think we would be in the same boat as Splitter?

This far down the road, it's absolutely impossible to suggest that there weren't several picks that would have been better than Marcus.

I think most of us thought Marcus Williams was a pick from draft night on. I've tried on a dozen or more occasions to generate any enthusiasm whatsoever for the pick and haven't been able to.

[Marcus Bryant]

Doing so would make him an unrestricted free agent. The Spurs would have no Bird Rights and would have to use cap space or the MLE to keep him.

Yes, he would be unrestricted, but they would not lose Bird Rights.

[Mel_13]

Yes, he would be unrestricted, but they would not lose Bird Rights.

Yes, they would.

There is one more limit to the maximum salary that can be given using the Larry Bird exception. If the player was a first round draft pick and just completed the third year of his rookie scale contract, but his team did not exercise their option to extend the contract for the fourth season (see question number 41), then this exception cannot be used to give him a salary greater than he would have received had the team exercised their fourth year option. In other words, teams can't decline the option in order to get around the salary scale and give the player more money.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q19

[Allanon]

It's very unlikely that Splitter would join the Spurs this year. The financials just don't make sense for Splitter to come this year. There's a huge contract buyout penalty and he'd make like 10 times more money staying in his currect Tau contract. Why should he take a buyout?

If he's coming, it will be for the 2010-2011 season.