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Monos wants to be like DSF.
Monos sucks of Findog.
Monos wants to be like DSF.
Monos sucks of Findog.
Dirk is and has been for quite some time one of the top 10 players in the League. Nash at his best was barely on the periphery of that and couldn't maintain it. And who cares about MVP awards? Kobe, Duncan, Wade and Lebron were all better players than Dirk or Nash in that timespan. If they didn't win it, then the award is meaningless.
Yes, most writers are clueless. I'll go with results on the court, not popularity contests. Dirk took a talented Mavs team to a Finals berth. Nash had more talent in Phoenix and couldn't make it out of the West.No? Why not? Nash did!
I guess those sports writers are clueless when it comes to the most valuable player.
Nash was probably the biggest reason the Suns went from 29 wins in 2004 to 62 in 2005, but the 2004 Suns traded away their PG early in the season and lost Amare to injuries for another huge stretch. Marbury wasn't what he was now, but a guy who was good enough to take the 2003 Suns to the playoffs. The MVP award almost always goes to the best player on the best regular-season team. That's why Nash won it in 2005 and it's why Dirk won it in 2007.
Considering he's not a choker, uh yeah, he'll go down as the greatest foreign player of all time. Kemp's legacy is a high-flying big man. Payton's legacy is one of the best PGs of all-time. Nobody considers their legacy to be losing to the Nuggets.And do you honestly believe Dirk will be remembered as anything but a choker?
That's the duh_suns_fan I remember. He played great against Miami, but Wade was better. Kind of how Nash played great against Dallas in 2006 but Dirk was better. There's no shame in admitting Wade is a better player than Dirk, or Dirk is a better player than Nash. As for the Warriors series, he put up 19 and 10 on a bum foot. If he's healthy, the Mavs win that series.The big German will go down as history as the greatest choker in the history of basketball. For which season you may ask?
Only to dip s like yourself. Nash was a very good player, Dirk is a great player. That must smart for you that the Suns chose to build their team around a one-dimensional PG.Like I pointed out earlier..."The Dirk Nowitzki of" is usually a reference to something bad.
Last edited by Findog; 09-18-2009 at 10:31 PM.
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lol, "of"
My Arizona State education hard at work! "of" lol
DSF wins this one. Im out.
DSF wins this one. Im out.
Dirk's Finals performance was good, Wade's was better. Did you watch the 2006 Finals? Wade sucked the first two games of that series, Dirk sucked the middle two games of that series, and they were both tremendous in Games 5 and 6. Dirk scored his points from the floor, Wade got his at the line. If you think Dirk's Finals performance is something to be ashamed of, then you didn't watch it.
Buddy, for your sake I'd give this one up. Youre going to be repeating this crap for a very...long....time. Its not just me you gotta convince. EVERYONE knows that Dirk choked. You cant go up 2-0, be up by...16...17 in the fourth of game 3 and end up losing in six games (on your home floor no less) and NOT be labeled as a choker.
If that werent bad enough, being the number one seed and lose to an eighth seed in a seven game series cemented it. You cant have back to back years like Dirk and expect to be have a positive legacy. He would have to lead a team to a le before he retires just to SOMEWHAT redeem himself and that aint happening.
Did you watch Games 5 and 6 of the Finals? That is NOT choking. If you don't know what you're talking about, then you had best shut up and defer to those that do. What do you call that tough runner over Shaq at the end of Game 5 before Wade was bailed out by Salvatore at the other end? What do you call 29 points and 15 rebounds in Game 6? You don't call it choking. He was very good, Wade was great. Simple as that.
He was hurt in that series and played anyways because his team had no chance to win without him. And he's already cemented a positive legacy. Best foreign player of all time, one regular season MVP, one Finals appearance. But why would I be surprised that you think that doesn't count as a positive legacy? You think Nash is a better player than Dirk. You think teams would be more successful building around Nash than Dirk. The results don't bear that out. Dirk accomplished more than Nash and with less around him.If that werent bad enough, being the number one seed and lose to an eighth seed in a seven game series cemented it. You cant have back to back years like Dirk and expect to be have a positive legacy. He would have to lead a team to a le before he retires just to SOMEWHAT redeem himself and that aint happening.
Zach Randolph will not have a positive legacy. Stephon Marbury will not have a positive legacy. Tracy McGrady will not have a positive legacy. As of this moment, Vince Carter will not have a positive legacy. You're delusional if you think Dirk won't.
All I know is Dirk won a Western Conference le with Jason Terry and Josh Howard (1 All Star injury replacement selection between them) as his two best sidekicks. Nash couldn't make it out of the West with Amare, Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion, or Amare, Marion, Diaw and Bell.
WHOA! What happened to the "repeater" game? I didnt type that!
You couldnt RESIST pointing out my typo, huh Monos?!
ing loser!
Actually Joe Johnson was out in 2005 against the Spurs and Amare and Diaw were suspended in 2007. What else ya got?
Did you know that Byung-Hyun Kim didnt choke in the 2001 world series? He pitched some good innings, the Yankees just got some good hits!
No, he wasn't. He only missed the first two games.
For the whole series? Yeah, you're right, the Spurs couldn't possibly beat the Suns w/o those guys.and Amare and Diaw were suspended in 2007. What else ya got?They went 3-2 in that series when those guys played and 1-0 when they didn't. If the Suns were so superior to San Antonio with their full complement of players, then why the did they go down by 20 points on the road in an elimination game?
Face it, if Amare and Diaw didn't have the presence of mind to remember a rule that every player gets drilled into them over and over and over and over and over again (DON'T LEAVE THE BENCH), then it doesn't bode well for the kind of poise they would have in a Game 7 against a veteran, 3-time champ
Irrelevant jibe about baseball instead of rebutting my argument. Good jobDid you know that Byung-Hyun Kim didnt choke in the 2001 world series? He pitched some good innings, the Yankees just got some good hits!
Fin, 2006 had more to do with bull whistles than Wade's "greatness" although I feel he's the 2nd best player in the league and a great player
It's just funny how people say Dirk choked w/o watching that series. He missed a FT at the end of Game 3 that would've sent the game to overtime when they were down by a point. If you want to say he choked that free throw, fine, I'll concede that. But you can't win or lose a series on a single free throw in Game 3. There's no guarantee they pull out that game in overtime on the road even if he had made it. There's no guarantee they win the series even if they had gone up 3-0. The Blazers rallied back from down 0-3 in 2003 against Dallas (who started GOAT Steve Nash
What hurt Dallas more than anything was the no-show in Game 4 against Miami. That was a team-wide lack of effort; you can't put that all on Dirk. You just can't afford to give away games in a series, and they did.
lol DSF
lol ASU education
How is THIS not choking?
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And to clarify, I'm not a Nash hater. Loved the guy when he was with the Mavs, and respect all that he did with Phoenix. But it's folly to think he's a better player than Dirk.
No, he wasn't. He only missed the first two games.
For the whole series? Yeah, you're right, the Spurs couldn't possibly beat the Suns w/o those guys.
Face it, if Amare and Diaw didn't have the presence of mind to remember a rule that every player gets drilled into them over and over and over and over and over again (DON'T LEAVE THE BENCH), then it doesn't bode well for the kind of poise they would have in a Game 7 against a veteran, 3-time champ
Doesnt matter about Amare and Diaw's brain fart, does it? The point is you said he couldnt win WITH those guys. But he didnt exactly "have" those guys for the whole series now, did he?
Owned AGAIN, Findog. Just like ol' times.
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