+1
I never thought I'll say this but Mason handing out easy buckets to Blair tonight looked a lot better than Tony, as far as being a creator.
There's something going on with Tony. I don't know if he's just tired of the 82 game season and he's just going through the motions or what. I trust Pop will figure it out.
We got the w against the rockets in their home (the first one), TP stats 19 2 7 ( I repeat 7 assists) with 4 tos shooting and defending decently while he is back after one week off but still the spurs fans are not happy with his performance... the tp hate is strong.
you all just enjoy the ing win
You keep looking at his numbers, I'll keep watching the games.
I want nothing but for Tony to be the best out there, because that automatically means we will win more games. I'm sorry if this bothers you somehow. I'm enjoying the win. No question about it.
Duncan and Parker look a step slower on both ends of the floor. hopefully there's nothing physically wrong with them and they're just approaching the season as a marathon by taking it slow. i know that was the approach for Duncan going in, but Parker looked signifcantly slower before the injury even happened this season... maybe he was still hurting from the ankle sprain he suffered this summer, or like i said he was approaching the season like a marathon.
both guys will have to be at the top of their game if they want to give any compe ion to the Lakers.
good defensive game for tony. He was bad in the 1st and the 4th quarter on offense though.
I like that TP is being more aggressive. He still looks a little fatigued to me. If he's just out of form then I think he is starting to play better. I'm not going to bash him at all after tonight's game. I thought he was aggressive and played a decent game. He made some mistakes, but that is OK we won the game and those mistakes will be corrected as everyone gets on the same page.
RJ has to step up his aggressiveness though and not wait for Tony to set him up. TP and Tim have been trying to set up RJ, but I think RJ simply must put it on himself to be more aggressive and confident in his shooting and driving. Don't think about the system too much, just play.
Exactly, this is obvious. Even how good he is in a game, he still is hated and underrated by the Spurs own fans. I cant think of any other explanation then that he is French. that must be it.
TP is the best we have, of course he has his bad days, but still.
Stop hating, please....
Some people are never happy.
Parker didn't have his best game last night.
That said, he still shot 8-18 (not terrible, one shot from 50%), and had 19 and 7.
He also was on the court helping to orchestrate the monster 14-0 run that undoubtedly won the game for us in the start of the 2nd half. A lot of the time his jumper just wasn't falling and it just looked like he didn't have his legs under him.
I keep watching the game too and TP did a very good job in Defense while shooting near 50 and gave 7 assists. Everybody is complaining about TP D, guess what ? against Houston he defended well. Of course his game was far from perfect but it's still November. You right it does bother me.
Good to see Parker is playing better because attack mode without buckets doesn't look pretty or help the team. I wish Parker could contribute other than just scoring but when he shoots a high percentage we usually do well.
Yeah, it's not like he ever gets an assist.
Or was 11th last year in the NBA in assists per game.
Nothing like that.
He's a scoring point guard. Passing the ball is not his focus. He has the ball in his hands often for a majority of the shot clock. Often he scores but other times he passes when he can't get his shot. He'll get assists but don't act like distributing the ball is his main focus. Statistics don't tell the whole story. Iverson often got a lot of assists but no one confused that with him prioritizing the distribution of the ball. It was a byproduct of having the ball in his hands for large chunks of time.
If Tony is effective in his role then the Spurs often win. My issue is that he needs to learn to adapt his game, especially for his future years when his speed will give and he won't have other fundamentals to fall back on.
I don't see this as controversial but you seem to have an issue with protecting Parker.
so he was 11th on assists last year because he has the ball in his hands for large bunch of time ?
If he can't get his shot he will pass the ball but he spends a good percentage of the shotclock with the ball in his hands. Nash dominates the ball as well but his focus is on passing, not scoring. Obviously Parker looks to score as his priority. It's called attack mode. Are you claiming Parker is a pass first point guard? I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make other than defending Parker, which really isn't an argument but a personal preference.
nobody is saying he is a pass first point guard but he is no Iverson like you seem to think, this is just stupid. He is a scorer because this is his natural ability and because Pop wants him to be in attack mode. Now he has the capacity to pass the ball and he is doing that more than decently. Stating that he passes only when he can't score is just a joke.
+1. How can people debate this?
If I mentioned Arenas instead of Iverson would that make you feel better? It's the same situation - scorers trapped in a point guard's body. You seem to be offended by the Iverson comparison probably because of your personal feelings towards Iverson but Iverson averaged a high number of assists, in fact often higher than Parker, yet obviously you aren't defending Iverson for being a good passer, even with the same use of statistics that you used previously in defense of Parker.
You're a Parker fan. That's cool. But I'm not expecting this to be an objective discussion.
even though we are winning games atm, still he destroyed the momentum run we had going when he was out....this applies to ginoboli also....
Another thing - the gospel that Pop wants Tony to be a shoot first point guard.
It wasn't always that way. Pop would berate Tony to try and mold him into a point guard that could score but also would be part John Stockton, as in a distributor. It was a unrealistic goal most likely because Pop wanted absolute perfection, but in no way did Pop only want to Parker to be a scorer.
What changed was Pop realized he needed to lighten up and let his stars focus on their strengths. He quit berating Manu and let him play wide open, and soon after let Parker play to his strengths without yelling at him every game. Obviously the results were good and Pop adapted his approach to the team by building around them.
if u can't see the difference between arenas/iverson and parker there's nothing i can do for u. just a tip 10% fg.
I'm a parker fan but not an homer, look at my posts you will see that I'm not blind.
You can't really blame that on them when players are injured you get used to different lineups and when players come back you have to adjust.
I do agree with the truth that Parker is a score first PG but he doesn't dominate the ball like an Iverson or Arenas if he did this team might not have won in the past.
It's seems when people say that he is not a pass first pg, that they trying to imply he is not all about the team- for the team which is ridiculous. I didn't see the game last night, but was he really that horrible? You people are making it seem like he doesn't belong in the NBA. And I know thats not right...
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