Has Kobe Eclipsed Shaq's legacy?

[JamStone]

Hakeem never lost in the NBA Finals. That's more impressive than Bill Russell winning 11 because Russell lost once in the NBA Finals.

Your logic.

[TheManFromAcme]

Kobe was every bit as important as Shaq on the championship teams. LA had Eddie Jones during his best days and could not win a championship. Those LA teams were stacked with talent and couldn't win until Kobe grew up.

I would argue that shaq was the better and more important player on the 2000-2002 championship teams, however, Kobe was no Pippen. As much as I don't like him, it shows a great ignorance to limit his role to a sidekick.

Finally, there is no doubt that Kobe is LA's best player. Just like Tony and Manu complimented Tim in 05 and 07, without Tim the Spurs don't win those championships, not even close and the players would admit it themselves. Gasol is a key player, but he is not the leader or the best player, that is all Kobe.

[SevenX]

Hakeem never lost in the NBA Finals. That's more impressive than Bill Russell winning 11 because Russell lost once in the NBA Finals.

Your logic.

got Miami Heat...

Get owned.

I bet he also faults Kobe missing the playoffs in 2005... but using his logic, his team wasn't good enough to get that far. And what formula do you use to say "this player had a team capable of winning a championship?" What a dumb .

[21_Blessings]

cue Laker fans raising rebounding specialist Rodman into Hall of Fame status

"Rebounding wins championships" - Pat Riley

You're bad at this Miami. Why so insecure?

[TDMVPDPOY]

has shaq ever tasted a mans ass, cause kobe has him beat there

[21_Blessings]

has shaq ever tasted a mans ass, cause kobe has him beat there

Go ahead ask Timmy to tell you how Kobe's ass taste. You'll find what you're looking for.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Kobe isn't even at Mark Madsen levels yet.

[galvatron3000]

Hakeem never lost in the NBA Finals. That's more impressive than Bill Russell winning 11 because Russell lost once in the NBA Finals.

Your logic.

That was never my logic, I was making a specific comparison in the initial response which because you continue to miss the point I made we keep coming back to this logic you say I'm using. I've already stated that it is more impressive to be in more Finals from a team perspective but from an individual perspective I made the comparison that when Kobe and when Duncan went Duncan LEAD his team unlike Kobe so to say that Kobe has dumped on Duncan the last 10 years is STUPID because there is no proof anyone can put together to support that.

I also know you didn't make the initial statement but you are not understanding my point because you want me to say the very thing you find unworthy which I do as well and which is why I wasn't making the point you continue to say I made. I never did. I made a specific comparison using a familiar analogy that we both don't find credible but in this instance I find it valid in proper context.

If I initial said what you suggest by now after several attempts to clarify it should be fair and obvious what I have said if not fine I'm moving on. My logic

[TheMACHINE]

That was never my logic, I was making a specific comparison in the initial response which because you continue to miss the point I made we keep coming back to this logic you say I'm using. I've already stated that it is more impressive to be in more Finals from a team perspective but from an individual perspective I made the comparison that when Kobe and when Duncan went Duncan LEAD his team unlike Kobe so to say that Kobe has dumped on Duncan the last 10 years is STUPID because there is no proof anyone can put together to support that.

I also know you didn't make the initial statement but you are not understanding my point because you want me to say the very thing you find unworthy which I do as well and which is why I wasn't making the point you continue to say I made. I never did. I made a specific comparison using a familiar analogy that we both don't find credible but in this instance I find it valid in proper context.

If I initial said what you suggest by now after several attempts to clarify it should be fair and obvious what I have said if not fine I'm moving on. My logic

but Kobe has been dumping on Duncan's team even when Kobe was second fiddle.

Ask other spurs fans....they'll say Kobe was the one who raped them in the playoffs.

[bus driver]

shaq-yes
magic-no

but Kobe has been dumping on Duncan's team even when Kobe was second fiddle.

Ask other spurs fans....they'll say Kobe was the one who raped them in the playoffs.

i know remember that year when the lakers played the spurs and kobe was crying so hard from his raping?......oh wait..... i mean fisher?....oh wait....never mind

[galvatron3000]

but Kobe has been dumping on Duncan's team even when Kobe was second fiddle.

Ask other spurs fans....they'll say Kobe was the one who raped them in the playoffs.

I'm a Spurs fan, you can ask me even though we weren't talking team but individual players I can safely say the Lakers are up on playoffs victories on the Spurs by winning in 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2008. Spurs beat the Lakers in 1999 and 2003

[21_Blessings]

Lakers are up on playoffs victories on the Spurs by winning in 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2008.

That's called getting dumped on.

Team of the Decade = Lakers

Player of the Decade = Kobe

Failing to repeat 4 times in such a short time frame is pretty pathetic and a clear indicator of a -made team with no heart.

[galvatron3000]

That's called getting dumped on.

Team of the Decade = Lakers

Player of the Decade = Kobe

Failing to repeat 4 times in such a short time frame is pretty pathetic and a clear indicator of a -made team with no heart.

lol

[TheManFromAcme]

I'm a Spurs fan, you can ask me even though we weren't talking team but individual players I can safely say the Lakers are up on playoffs victories on the Spurs by winning in 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2008. Spurs beat the Lakers in 1999 and 2003

, throw in 80's ownage and it becomes evident just how dominating the Lakers have been over the Spurs.

Fortunately, we are just talking about '99 through '08