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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Yeah Butler and Elson were both restricted free agents. The Spurs bid on both and got them. They really needed help at center, and it's good that one of them panned out. Butler had some talent but never seemed to even give an effort. Elson wasn't terribly bright but he played hard and contributed.

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    What about the character issues? I don't mind a player smokin' a little weed and getting busted, but five baggies in the trunk sounds like he's doin' a little dealing on the side. Once you start breaking up some weight into individual packages, in most jurisdictions, that's prima facie evidence that you intend to sell it.
    Character issues? Don't we have a rapist on our team?

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    Character issues? Don't we have a rapist on our team?
    define rapist

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    @Preine713 FWIW, source in the loop tells E-N that Knicks and Spurs have not discussed anything re: Wilson Chandler.

    http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/26118634691

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    You should drop whatever it is you're smoking and pick up punctuation instead
    really??!!!! do i really have to spell everything out??!?!?! no im cont. on w/my abbreviations did you know abbreviators have a higher iq????jk hahah no but cmon man i hate spelling the full word when you know what im saying!! stop being an ass in other words "stp being N azz" see!!

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    okay i stand corrected!!! it sucks to be wrong, however this is a totally different situation!!

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    What about the character issues? I don't mind a player smokin' a little weed and getting busted, but five baggies in the trunk sounds like he's doin' a little dealing on the side. Once you start breaking up some weight into individual packages, in most jurisdictions, that's prima facie evidence that you intend to sell it.
    rofl at the thought of an NBA player dealing on the side

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    rofl at the thought of an NBA player dealing on the side
    Hmmmmmm . . .

    http://articles.latimes.com/1995-01-..._darryl-henley

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    Timmy would be cool if he was dealing, a local trust worthy dealer on his own team. Get it done pop!

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    It's still hard to believe that Pop and R.C. fell for Larry Brown's assessment of Jackie Butler's lard ass to make a trade for him.

    It wasn't just their assesment. Butler showed at the end of the prior season alot of talent and a crap load of potential. Once he got paid however he just gave up.

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    After looking it up, it looks like Chris Sheridan is reporting this as well, so it might have some validity to it..he didn't name the Spurs, but he says the Knicks have found a 1st round pick to partner up with..
    Melo for Gallo, Randolph and some pieces would actually be an interesting trade for both teams. NY get their second player for their impending "Big 3" (Amare, Melo, Paul), Denver get to re-load with some youth with major upside.

    If we could grab Chandler in the deal, why not? But WHY THE ING-BLOODY- HEAD-BALLS- -PRICK-APOCALYSPING- did we pay Richard Jefferson 40mil over 4 excruciating years? Aaaaaaaaaaargh!

    I may well have egg on my face if RJ improves markedly this year, magically become the slashing scorer and defender we need him to be, and then puts off the effects of aging (he's 30... we'll be paying him 10mil when he's 34!) to still be useful 4 years from now, but I rate that a 12.7% chance.

    So, in summary: we re-signed the Anti-balla for 4 years for twice his market value, but we could have simply paid him out and grabbed Chandler to replace him for next year? I repeat:

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    its ok guys, we have Bonner locked up. we're gonna be ok.

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    I really don't like RJ. Not sure why. He just feels like Derek Anderson all over again somehow to me.

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    @Preine713 FWIW, source in the loop tells E-N that Knicks and Spurs have not discussed anything re: Wilson Chandler.

    http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/26118634691

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    I asked a Spanish journalist (who lives in NYC and knows some insiders) about the trade. He answered that there's a rumor about a "real opportunity which depends more of SAS than NYK".

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    It wasn't just their assesment. Butler showed at the end of the prior season alot of talent and a crap load of potential. Once he got paid however he just gave up.
    ...and how. Talk about hitting the lottery and giving up.

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    Allow me to translate that tweet for you....

    "I don't know anything about what it happening, so I'll just I have a source that says nothing is happening."

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    Allow me to translate that tweet for you....

    "I don't know anything about what it happening, so I'll just I have a source that says nothing is happening."
    Translation #2: "My uncle is from New York..."

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    I really don't like RJ. Not sure why. He just feels like Derek Anderson all over again somehow to me.
    Well I would think anderson would be what we would want from jefferson...guy who can shoot and wasn't afraid to get to the basket..until juwan howard hurt him then it was all downhill from there

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    NFL and was he ever convicted?
    I'm afraid drug dealing was just the beginning for this ex-UCLA Bruin . . .

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/EX-RAM...ws)-a083859693

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    I'm afraid drug dealing was just the beginning for this ex-UCLA Bruin . . .

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/EX-RAM...ws)-a083859693
    Damn, reads like a movie story line, crazy to hear stories about people who could have had so much and throw it all away

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    Allow me to translate that tweet for you....

    "I don't know anything about what it happening, so I'll just I have a source that says nothing is happening."
    thanks。。。 i'm wrong。。

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    The Spurs wouldn't trade for WC with RJ's old contract on the books this season and we'd have no Tiago Splitter. Want to revise your post now or would you rather continue to look at one side of the situation in a foolish manner? Up to you.
    False. Absolutely false. Show me the proof where the Spurs would not have signed Tiago if RJ would not have opted out.

    There is absolutely no way they pass on Tiago coming over either way. None.

    Also, why would they not trade for WC with RJ making 15M, but could with him making 10?

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    I really don't like RJ. Not sure why. He just feels like Derek Anderson all over again somehow to me.
    Derek Anderson played well his year here and then he left. Hopefully Jefferson is not the opposite.

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