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Oh really, they want the white Mormon kid? Shocker!
Re-read picc84's post that I was responding to. Based on what he wrote to distinguish between Melo and Deron, I think Dirk/Nash is an extremely relevant and fair comparison. And obviously based on him choosing Nash over Dirk, it's very much to the point at issue.
Oh really, they want the white Mormon kid? Shocker!
I feel similar about you saying you take Nash easily over Dirk.
Well, the Nets are currently on pace for what, 18 wins? Say Deron adds an extra 12. Now they're at 30 wins, and still not a playoff team because his best wing options are Sasha Vujacic and Jordan Farmar, two players he routinely lubed up to anally violate when they were on the Lakers, and his best big is Brook Lopez, who i'm confident I could rob if I met him on the street despite being 10 inches shorter than him.
Unless they do get Dwight, the Nets aren't doing anything in the foreseeable future. And Deron, as someone who has been vocal in complaining about the Jazz not being contenders, is now on a much worse team in a now better conference.
He's already friends with Melo and Amare. He'll already be living in New York. And his next contract will be under the new CBA no matter what. So what incentive does he have to stay with the Nets and not bolt?
He's gone. And he's probably a Knick.
haha touche
This is the Jazz giving Williams the finger. Nothing more.
Jerry Sloan: "WTF?"
True, but then any big name signing would be risky for the Nets as they would be liable to bolt - which is why I said it's high risk. If they can package Brook Lopez + assets for Dwight in 2012 it would be worth it. At any rate they will try and trade D-Will to any team not named NYK if this doesn't work out. IMO the Knicks will pursue Chris Paul now.
Dirk without a moments hesitation. Although it would have been interesting to see Nash on a team like Orlando, with a guy like Howard to protect the paint.
jay-z got himself a new best friend
Way late on this (busy day at work), but wow. All it took was Melo moving for the NBA shakeup to occur.
They can trade him if he says he won't extend, but that still leaves them high and dry because they'll be selling him for chump change, assuming he doesn't promise the next team he'll extend with them either.
The only way NJ comes out clean is if he extends. Which he probably won't.
Meanwhile, IMO the Knicks would be better served going after Deron than CP, because while CP is better, Deron is probably 90% of what you get from him, and unlike CP he doesn't have alarming injury concerns.
We shat all over this a few weeks ago. Then again, pretty much everyone else in conference has shat all over us.
williams has 2 years left on his contract iirc, maybe he'll end up somewhere else by then?
I agree.
But it also would have been interesting to see Dirk on a team like Orlando, with a guy like Howard to protect the paint.
DWill sent straight from All Star Game to the tree of woe...
^ he'll get in for the east at the 1 still imo
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get in, not start
I honestly never knew Pierce had those good defensive seasons early on in his career so that def. raises a few questions about my Pierce/Melo comparison. It's far from a perfect comparison as Melo has never done something as stupid as put himself in a position to get stabbed while Pierce has never had a huge problem being fat and out of shape, I just compared them because the maturation Pierce went through late in his career is something Melo needs to go through.
I agree with this except for the part about a big body to defend the post being hard to find. Guys like Perkins and Dalembert can be had with MLE level deals or lower every year. The problem is, Amare can't anchor a team's weakside help D and p/r D the way KG can, so the center they get needs to be able to defend the post AND be a decent help defender (someone like Gortat) which is hard to find.
The Knicks are going to have problems as long as D'antoni is coach. I said it over the summer to all the people who claimed Nash was what Amare would miss about Phoenix. He's clearly good enough offensively to produce with a lesser PG, but there are only so many coaches out there good enough to get him to go hard defending and rebounding. Gentry was one of those few. D'antoni has also ruined the progress he made in the post on offense last year by going with a small lineup and turning him into a face-up jump shooter who's only offense is to take advantage of less athletic centers.
If NY got a better defensive coach tho, NY could easily become a good defensive team. Amare and Melo both have the physical tools to be elite defenders. Fields is already a good defender. Billups' defense is overrated but he's an above average defender who communicates well on that end. The Suns were becoming a good defensive team last year before they decided to blow it up in the off season, so the Knicks can easily become one.
Does anyone remember last year when picc84 spent the entire season talking about how crappy Fisher was, how the Lakers wouldn't be able to win a le with such a weak link at PG, and how stupid it was to not trade him at the deadline out of sheer loyalty..........then he disappears and never eats CROW after Fisher played huge for them in the playoffs
lol people who grossly overrate how important volume assist PGs are
I'd rather be wrong about that and watch my team win a championship than be right and watch my team lose. I think he got over it.
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