Tiago must stay in the rotation

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the compe ion.

Unfortunately we all know that’s true. Pop won’t play Tiago and Blair together and I also think those 2 won’t work well. The best thing now is Tiago play ahead of Blair.

[spurs50_]

I like dice, don't get me wrong,but I hope he retires. As long as he is on the roster he will be the starter. If it's not the old guy it will be the short guy. Tiago will never get on the court except in garbage time. Get your ring dice and call it a career.

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

I just find it odd that Pop can't figure out a rotation using all of them:

Duncan/Dice

Splitter/Bonner

Dice/Blair

Duncan/Bonner

The key is that Blair and Bonner can never be on the court at the same time and always with either Duncan, Dice, or Splitter.

i dont find it that odd, i mean the guy is overhyped any man will look like a genius when you have the best power forward of all time, see bill russel after he left, and so on,

its not a big deal and while im very honored to have such a respected coach im not a dumbass who thinks its pop who gave us rings, actually its more tim duncan and r.c buford than you think i think pop is more like bonner in a way while he is very methodical /consistent and respectful he is very lacking in overall talent

remember pop didnt draft manu pop also didnt draft parker and yes he wanted duncan but who didnt?? think for yourself people

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

theres a reason why he treats all the talent we have like yet all the guys who are old kiss asses like allstars its because hes given the talent and works with it people have the misconception of pop being some scout genius and that is exactly the opposite the man with all the talent/magic and created our success as an organization is RC BUFORD more than anybody while there were alot of people who arent getting credit.

so when i about pop im not some lebron drinking punk who is talking out of his ass, so people who protect pop need to relax and know who does what in this org. i can bet you if we had pop scouting our team would be filled with unathletic red heads, i think pop has a soft spot to unathletic white guys who try and play pro he sees himself in these type of players and is in some way (im sure) bitter about not being drafted or given the chance to go pro due to real scouts.

thats why i say bonner is a ing piece of garbage because he is and pop knows damn well he shouldnt be given these ridiculous amount of minutes.

[Mel_13]

Well put, but like I mentioned in another thread, we've collectively beaten this to death now. The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last night's rotation. They've wrapped up home court against the Lakers, which is really all that matters. Time to just put on our fan hats and root for them, IMO.

I love that you're lecturing me about smallball, Splitter, Bonner or Popovich. I've certainly never heard any of this before.

Yeah, you're the prime example of rehashing the same useless arguments over and over again. BTW, when have you supported the Spurs? You've been talking up the Lakers most of the year, then you suddenly jumped on the Splitter-doesn't-play-enough bandwagon six months late and have continued to use it to announce this season a failure and the outcome of the playoffs a foregone conclusion

With your track record, attempting to brand me a forum cop for telling you guys to let it ing go and start rooting for the team to do well is doubly laughable.

[Brazil]

Well put, but like I mentioned in another thread, we've collectively beaten this to death now. The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last night's rotation. They've wrapped up home court against the Lakers, which is really all that matters. Time to just put on our fan hats and root for them, IMO.

You are absolutely right but some of us are not on the acceptance stage yet.

I have to confess I'm myself on the depression stage which is good, a little effort and I will be on the acceptance then I will start to enjoy the moment.

60 wins, hca clinched, Tim Duncan and his bank shot, Manu and his crazy stuff, Speedy TP, our old crazy favorite coach, even our loved red rocket etc... for one of our last dance in POs we should all celebrate and be ready

[Brazil]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:

• 1. Denial and Isolation.
• 2. Anger.
• 3. Bargaining.
• 4. Depression.
• 5. Acceptance.

then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm just praying to god the Spurs shoot 50% from three-land for the playoffs.

That's what it comes down to.

Especially against L.A (If we get there)...

[Mugen]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:

• 1. Denial and Isolation.
• 2. Anger.
• 3. Bargaining.
• 4. Depression.
• 5. Acceptance.

then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

so true when it comes to the Tiago situation....

Sadly, i've reached Acceptance. Hopefully the healing can now begin...

[Mel_13]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:

• 1. Denial and Isolation.
• 2. Anger.
• 3. Bargaining.
• 4. Depression.
• 5. Acceptance.

then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

I reached acceptance a long time ago.

Then Tiago played so well while Timmy was out that I've slid back to bargaining for Tiago to get Blair's minutes backing up Tim.

[Mugen]

I reached acceptance a long time ago.

Then Tiago played so well while Timmy was out that I've slid back to bargaining for Tiago to get Blair's minutes backing up Tim.

Yup.

Then depression when Timmmy came back from injury and Tiago got sent back to the bench.

Acceptance when he was the last guy off the bench on the 2nd night of a b2b against the ing Sacramento Kings.

[jag]

I call BS on McDonald for like the 1,000th time. In Pop's lineups, Blair's playing center and Splitter's playing power forward. If the above were true Splitter would have gotten some time with Duncan.

This doesn't make any sense.

[Brazil]

Yup.

Then depression when Timmmy came back from injury and Tiago got sent back to the bench.

Acceptance when he was the last guy off the bench on the 2nd night of a b2b against the ing Sacramento Kings.

the fact to regress to one stage in the process is absolutely normal.

I think a psy could get a lot of good material in ST to describe the 5 stages of grief.

1. Denial and Isolation.

"I'm sure Pop is preserving Tiago because he has been hurt, he is not at 100% yet but Pop will insert him into the rotation after the AS break."

2. Anger.
"Pop you studid stubborn, you ! Matt Bonner sucks, Pop is an old fool !"

3. Bargaining.

"Come on Pop give the kid some minutes, at least when Bonner is cold as !! pleeeeaaassssseeeee play Tiago"

4. Depression.

"First round exit, we will never pass Memphis with the Turd Towers, thank you for wasting Tim Duncan's best year. I'm done with this team, they can all burn in ."

5. Acceptance.

"Tiago won't play significant minutes during the POs, maybe during Garbage Time. At least he will be pretty good during the lockout. Now let's kick some lakers ass."

[Budkin]

the proof that Pop has lost his ability to make sane decisions will be in the pudding in the playoffs. Memphis will just absolutely abuse, abuse, the Bonner-Blair frontline just as they have in the regular season. fortunately for Pop is incompetency in that regard will masked by all the talent he's got to work with. they meet LA and Bonner-Blair will not be masked, and Pop's dumb ass decision to not develope Splitter in the reg. season will be exposed. and i've been sayin that since the Spurs won the first game against LA by 20. small ball doesn't work and it won't work this year.

you have a guy in Splitter that held one of the best pfs in Aldridge to one of his worst games this season (14 & 9). yet Pop doesn't find that kind of defensive ability of any use agains the best frontline in the league. it pisses me off to know that Duncan won't have ample help in what may be his last year (never know), when it's been there the whole year. un ing believable. Splitter is literally the dude we've been waiting for for the last 4 years. it's the dude Duncan's been waiting for.

let's put things into prespective though. Popovich has lost his mind. and he lost it before the Splitter fiasco. the last few years he's simply made bad decisions and said very re ed things. let's go through them:

1. virtually not playing Bowen and Hill against the Mavs in '08 until the series was lost. instead he put all his faith in defensless Finley and old as Jacque Vaugh.

2. remember when he said that RJ was Stephen Jackson without all the drama? who the in their right mind would make that statement? anyone who can rationalize that themselves is out to lunch.

3. calling Bogans the centerpiece

Poop has just lost it.

This x1000. It's completely insane.

[Brazil]

This x1000. It's completely insane.

anger stage ftw

[Obstructed_View]

This doesn't make any sense.

You mean you don't understand it? Splitter should get more minutes, Bonner should get fewer minutes. That's about as simply as it can be put. McDonald's statement is completely wrong on a number of levels, not least of which is that Blair gets minutes at the center position and Splitter gets minutes at the power forward position.

[carina_gino20]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:

• 1. Denial and Isolation.
• 2. Anger.
• 3. Bargaining.
• 4. Depression.
• 5. Acceptance.

then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

Brazil with the goods.

I'm like the others. I've already accepted the Tiago situation until Timmy went down and Tiago played well with more playing time. Now I'm back to anger/bargaining and will have to take the lift to the 5th floor in the next couple of games.

[SA210]

Jeff McDonald is a spineless sorry excuse for a reporter.

[TJastal]

I've been saying all year, the Spurs coaching staff did something to his FT form; if you look back at the World Championships and prior to that is form was much more fluid than that. It was the first thing I noticed, the first time he stepped to that line, he all of a sudden had a hitch right before he released the ball.

He was about a 70-75 % FT shooter, now all of a sudden he is a 50% shooter?????

Examples:


2:24 mark


:30 mark - 1:10


1:25 mark - 1:55

Thanks Chip & Pop for completely ing over my rookie nba season.

--Tiago