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All the ones talking trash about TP's clutchness is sick. Y'all forget how big he was vs. New Orleans in 08 among other game winners he's hit since. TP is fine and will be back with a vengeance.
You didn't actually watch the game but you're talking out of your ass because it's a nice thread for bashing Parker right?
All the ones talking trash about TP's clutchness is sick. Y'all forget how big he was vs. New Orleans in 08 among other game winners he's hit since. TP is fine and will be back with a vengeance.
Funny part is that everybody will go back to hate on Bonner after game 2
i watched the game, and yes parker played aggresive and got to the line and made up for his poor shooting + i think he is clutch but its his decision making that was bad.
Parker wasn't running the offense for large periods of the game, in fact most of the game.
In the clutch how was his decision making? in your opinion that is.
Hill did get a lot more action with the ball with Manu out but Parker was running the offense for the majority of the game. It just didn't seem that way since Parker is lightning quick and missed a ton of shots. He and the Spurs made terrible decisions throughout the game which don't always show up on a stat sheet like failing to pass to the open 3 point shooter and taking a long 2 instead.
Thats been my point all along, Parker is a baller/allstar/Finals Mvp none of that can be taken away from him. But in sundays game his weaknesses were exposed/he made bad decisions and didnt play well. It happens to every player. He is certainly not the only reason the spurs loss, but offensively speaking I would put most of the blame on him. I just hate it when this dude has a bad game and posters sit around making excuses for him and get all defensive and label parker-hater at anyone who calls him out. Same is true when he has a good game, give em' credit just dont be a homer either.
Look again closely to the posts you're talking about...
Everybody admits that he had a bad game!
Most of the posts were answers to wrong statements about him "in general", not about THAT specific game...
Some posters (alvarez) were even talking about his rap album and his "sexting" to illustrate their point!
It just seems to me that TP doesn't deserves all this questioning after 1 bad game!
Most of the criticism looked like "you see, I told you...", as if they were waiting for that opportunity to trash him.
The main reason he's defended is because he's got a special treatment comparing to what Tim or Manu receive after a bad game.
It's even more shocking after a season where TP showed he is the least problem the spurs have...
No, you absolutely couldn't be more wrong. Hill ran the offense for all but the third quarter, when Parker did most of his damage and the Spurs took control of the game. Parker's shot at the end wasn't a good shot but he's taken that exact same shot in similar situations for the last four or five years and almost never misses it. With the ball being taken out of his hands by the coach for such a long period of time, it only encourages a shot like that from Parker to try to help seal a close win.
They tried to play Parker/Hill like it was Parker/Manu, but for what its worth Parker had 29.1 USG% and Hill had 16%. Duncan had 22.4%. The stuff was going mainly to the Spurs big 2 especially in the first half but Parker's missed shots is what made a huge difference offensively between the 3 of them.
It was a wide open long 2 but its still way too risky. He had the time and lane to drive it to the rim, imo he took that jumper because he was struggling finishing at the paint and its hard to turn down a wide open look even if there's time on the clock. Although he HAS to make that shot in a close 4th quarter or at least grab the board.Parker's shot at the end wasn't a good shot but he's taken that exact same shot in similar situations for the last four or five years and almost never misses it. With the ball being taken out of his hands by the coach for such a long period of time, it only encourages a shot like that from Parker to try to help seal a close win.
Last edited by Cane; 04-19-2011 at 01:52 PM.
Usage percentage isn't about who's running the offense, it's about who takes the shots. When Hill is being handed the ball on rebounds and Parker is camped out in the corner, it's pretty clear who the point guard is.
The offense was all about running stuff for the big 2 and trying to get others going in the process. Often the player who brings the ball up is just a piece of the play rather than the catalyst. Parker had plenty of time running the offense and also had a lot of good opportunities. He just couldn't convert some of his usual shots and made some bad decisions in the 4th which hopefully is just a game 1 issue.
Hill grabbed 7 boards compared to Tony's 1 which is another reason why he initiated the offense as much as he did. Spurs have used players anywhere from Mason Jr. to Gary Neal to bring the ball up to run a set play for the big 3 so they can make something happen. Imo often the player who brings the ball up isn't the real playmaker, Parker and Duncan were trying to carry the load in lieu of Manu but didn't execute well enough on both ends of the court in addition to the rest of the Spurs.When Hill is being handed the ball on rebounds and Parker is camped out in the corner, it's pretty clear who the point guard is.
Camping Parker in the corner waiting to take a three and running half-court sets after a successful regular season of pushing the ball does precisely neither.
Unless that player is Tony Parker, who has been the biggest catalyst for the Spurs since he was a rookie. This should be doubly the case when Manu is out.
He had a quarter running the offense and the Spurs capitalized during that time. If you think that's plenty then you're delusional.
Hopefully having Hill running point when on the floor with Parker is just a game 1 issue.
Wow, desperate to justify Pop's decisions much? All of the above is so stupid I'm not even going to bother to comment further on it.
This is all much more simple when everything is Bonner's fault.
Parker isnt a choker, but I wouldnt necessarily call him clutch either. His lack of a jumpshot always makes me really uncomfortable in late game situations.
Parker wasn't camping at the corner. He got the ball from Hill and tried to make things happen for every quarter. I agree the Spurs should push the ball more but they need to defend well for that to happen which is definitely the biggest concern.
Yea, he just wasn't converting but Parker definitely took an increased workload.Unless that player is Tony Parker, who has been the biggest catalyst for the Spurs since he was a rookie. This should be doubly the case when Manu is out.
Tbh its been a staple that the guy who brings up the ball isn't necessarily running the point. Often the ball goes to Parker or Manu straight away after its brought up. Hill is no Manu when it comes to facilitating so more Parker is needed, but you have to pace Parker too and give other Spurs some ball handling duties.He had a quarter running the offense and the Spurs capitalized during that time. If you think that's plenty then you're delusional.
Hopefully having Hill running point when on the floor with Parker is just a game 1 issue.
Wow, desperate to justify Pop's decisions much? All of the above is so stupid I'm not even going to bother to comment further on it.
Imo you just have a skewed view of the game, Parker was the main playmaker/point and its reflected in his USG%, throughout the boxscore, and just watching how the plays were run. That doesn't mean they didn't try to use Hill at PG as well though. In the end, the Spurs nearly stole game 1 with a pathetic defensive effort from their frontcourt which is definitely the bigger concern.
Last edited by Cane; 04-19-2011 at 05:01 PM.
Well we agree that Parker's not likely to shoot that poorly again, and that the frontcourt is the biggest problem. It's sad though when you think about how easily they could win with Parker bringing the ball up for four quarters AND a big front line.
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