"Pau is the real MVP of the Lakers"

[Giuseppe]

And if you have so many trophies, sell some and pay off what you owe, welcher...

Not a f'in' dime!

[ElNono]

Not a f'in' dime!

We already talked about your non-reputation... don't make me go there again...

[Giuseppe]

We already talked about your non-reputation... don't make me go there again...

Oh, yeah, it's coming back to me now. tee, hee.

[dunkman]

Pay, don't be a . . .

[Giuseppe]

Pay, don't be a . . .

He ain't gettin' that money. No f'in' way.

[FkLA]

I said the lakers were contenders at the time of bynums injury and had traded 1st in the pac dicision and west with suns several times. It's a fact anyway you cut it regardless of how you felt things would have turned out.

That Laker team was a playoff team but dont kid yourself, those s were not legit contenders. They wouldve faded that season. And they wouldnt have made 3 consecutive Finals trips the following three seasons. Everyone including yourself knows that. Kobe without a Top 3 Big Man by his side has been exactly what Tmac, VC, AI have been without a Top 3 Big Man by their side.

[ogait]

I said weeks. I uesd that link as it was the monday after the drew injury for ease. There was a time within the previous week were the celts were 1, lakers 2, and suns 3. All 4 of those teams in the west obvoiusly could have interchanged 1-4 daily or hourly for that matter.

The premise is sound. The Lakers were in the hunt. Would they have stayed there had Drew not gone done and they never got Pau. Never know. But they were abounst the top. FACT.

No.
And I'm not going to argue Pau over Kobe as the Lakers MVP, because I don't think he is. But to claim Lakers could be contenders without Pau, wow I thought only 21_blessings could say things like that.

[Giuseppe]

No.
And I'm not going to argue Pau over Kobe as the Lakers MVP, because I don't think he is. But to claim Lakers could be contenders without Pau, wow I thought only 21_blessings could say things like that.

We could without "this" Gasol. He's a detriment.

[DMC]

lame comeback asshole...and furthermore don't be showing me no ing trophies...I got trophies coming out my I got so many....ya digg....

Venereal warts aren't trophies.

[Killakobe81]

Everyone that agreed with the original premise ... is biased or an idiot ... pick one.

[da_suns_fan]

http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings...r/2008/week/11

That is 2 weeks before the trade and the week Drew went down.

Lakers 11 losses.

Only 2 teams with less. The Celtics with 5 and the pistons witn 10. There were 4 teams with 11 losses at the time including the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, and your Suns who as I said the Lakers had exchanged 1st in the west with and 2-3 overall.

You obviously don't even know your own team as I remember very specifically the banter back and forth in that season as they battled at the top.

Yet another moron... or should I just say FRAUD? Move along...

Original Quote: All except for the fact that just weeks before gasol stepped in the Lakers were BEST in the west and 2nd in the NBA. - Cobbler


In Reality (according to your link): The highest the Lakers achieved sans Gasol was an early (week 11) FOUR way tie (with Phx, Mavs and Spurs) for THIRD best in the league. Then they went on a losing streak (because Bynum went down according to you) and they werent close to best in the west or 2nd in the league when the trade actually happened (as you disingenuously suggested).

Did you think I wouldnt notice? You JUST PROVED MY POINT!! Your original quote was BULL ! They were NEVER best in the west (tied with three other teams ). They were NEVER second best in the league (tied for third). And this was a cherry picked week when the Lakers had their best record before Gasol. Thus, you are full of .

Game over. I win.

[cobbler]

Original Quote: All except for the fact that just weeks before gasol stepped in the Lakers were BEST in the west and 2nd in the NBA. - Cobbler


In Reality (according to your link): The highest the Lakers achieved sans Gasol was an early (week 11) FOUR way tie (with Phx, Mavs and Spurs) for THIRD best in the league. Then they went on a losing streak (because Bynum went down according to you) and they werent close to best in the west or 2nd in the league when the trade actually happened (as you disingenuously suggested).

Did you think I wouldnt notice? You JUST PROVED MY POINT!! Your original quote was BULL ! They were NEVER best in the west (tied with three other teams ). They were NEVER second best in the league (tied for third). And this was a cherry picked week when the Lakers had their best record before Gasol. Thus, you are full of .

Game over. I win.

Wow. Just wow. Look. You asked me to show you where they were in first place in the west and I showed you where the Lakers were at the very least tied for first place at a given snapshot. That snapshot being just after the drew injury. Done. Tied for first is first.

As for 2nd overall I could have been off by a game or so as I forgot Detroit had a huge winning steak along that time so thats my error. But again as you saw we are talking minute % points. Fact is up until Drews injury the Lakers were swapping 1-4 with those four teams in the west are were being recognized as a team to be dealt with. The lakers then lost like 5 of 8 before they got Pau. My statement stands with the minor correction that in no way changes the premise of the argument.

And nowhere did i suggest that when they got Bynum they were still there as you just implied. That's a complete fabrication on your part. Go figure. Like I didnt know they went on a slump post injury? What a tool. So I misspoke and forgot Detroit's move, sue me.

Here you go:

All except for the fact that just weeks before gasol stepped in the Lakers were BEST in the west and 3rd in the NBA.

Better? As if that changes the premise in any way. So my bad for forgetting the pistons were battling then. Now let's look at your comment:

"Tell me when, at any point during the 2007-2008 season were the Lakers in first place.

If not, admit youre a total FRAUD."

You were outraged that I suggested the Lakers were EVER 1st in the West. BULL you said. Well, you have been shown that the bull resides between your 0 for life ears.

Have a nice off season! Heck your like 3 months in no?