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dbreiden
hahaha what?!?!
you.. Because i don't love Tony.. He is Hollywood.. Send him to the Clippers.. You got Spurs fans here that think Manu has been as valuable as Duncan..
Damn, this draft is gonna rival 2000. Spurs better get a good commodity on top of any pick for TP.
What part of Rode Duncan to 3 rings is confusing??
2003 finals tony was on the bench while Speedy saved the day
2005 finals he watch Tim and Manu carry the team
He beat a terrible Cavs team in 2007
Parker, RJ, and Bonner to Memphis for Randolph and a pick...one last shot, do it!
If only that were possible ...
Randolph, no. But Marc Gasol is available as a free agent, although he might be restricted.
And yes, if only because I don't see it happening.
No, because your takes are laughable and because you still havent figured out what a complete sentence is.you.. Because i don't love Tony.. He is Hollywood.. Send him to the Clippers.. You got Spurs fans here that think Manu has been as valuable as Duncan..
The fact that you don't realize how valuable Tony has been to the Spurs shows how uninformed and oblivious you are to even the simplest basketball concepts.
And one more thing. Adrian Woj is one of the best but that does not mean he is 100% accurate all the time.
Season and a half ago, he said that the Spurs were looking to trade Manu possibly for Amare. Look where that went. Manu signed for a three year and a very good contract (for both sides).
You got Spurs fans here that think Manu has been as valuable as Duncan..
Just because something doesn't happen, doesn't mean people are wrong. He said they are having discussions, not that he has been traded.
Sometimes things just don't materialize for whatever reason (likely because trades are difficult in the NBA).
Tony has been a Good Spur but to say he did not ride Duncan to 3 rings is in laughable.. Duncan is the best ever at his position and a top 10 player ever.. Tony was young and often terrible in 2003. He was more consistent in 2005 but nowhere in the 2005 finals.. He was great in the 2007 finals against a lousy team.. Good Spur yes but he rode Duncan..
The playoffs define who you are as a player. Tony Parker, more than any other player on our starting 5 let down his team.
He sucked and then said our Championship years were behind us because of Tim and Manu ? Are you ing serious ?
Ship his ass out of here. We all know Tim is spent but at least he has 35 excuses or however old he is. Tony is an under-achieving, drama-instigating, boy who can't lead.
Speedy bailed his ass out in '03 and Manu did in '05. 2007 he had a dream match-up with an awful backcourt in Cleveland.
When you need him most he disappears. Trade for a high pick and something of value. Move Jefferson's mental midget ass too.
Exactly.. Who the would this guy be without Duncan and the Spurs? Putting up 18 a game on a ass team..
Link for Amare/Manu? Hill as deal breaker? I bet it never happened. Why would Suns want Hill if they had Nash and Dragic to go along with Manu?
I have been reading your posts and forgive me for saying so, you mix up a few of your inside scoops with a lot of bogus bull .
Your "reasoning" was that Tony is "Hollywood". And why is it that Tim being so great only reflects poorly on Tony? Should David Robinson have been shipped out after '99 because he "rode" Duncan to a ring? How about Bowen, his accomplishments should really mean nothing considering Duncan was the reason for the Spurs' success. And Sean Elliott, AJ, Horry? They were good spurs but they rode Duncan so apparently they should have been shipped at the first available trade. By your reasoning, Manu should be dealt as well because his contributions should be viewed as nothing more than riding Duncan to championships.
Your reasoning is only confirming my original response to your ridiculous post. Youre a joke.
More than any other player?
Richard Jefferson is still on this team and still the starter.
And as far as replacing McDyess in the starting lineup . . . Pop himself said, "Maybe it's Matt Bonner."
No, Parker has not let the team down more than any other member of the starting 5.
You can't just trade Parker for a pick. Mainly because no team can absorb his contract without other players being involved, but more importantly, there is NO player in this draft worth getting rid of Parker for. If the Spurs do that, then it's just a salary dump and they may as well blow up the whole team.
It all depends on what the Spurs motivation for trading Parker is . . . if they are really upset about his comments, that's just sad. Disappointing. Pathetic, really. Pop in his ass, if that's the case.
If the Spurs are still trying to field a compe ive team and they feel the only way they can do that is to trade Parker, then they damn sure better get some value in the trade. If you can move Jefferson in the process, all the better.
Here, you are just basically repeating what I've already said. I don't get what your damage is, honestly.
It's difficult to understand the point you are trying to make here and honestly, I don't care anymore. No Spurs player with a big contract is getting traded straight up for a draft pick. OK?
That's the best you can do?
Duncan played that same terrible Cavs team. The whole Spurs team did. They beat three other teams to get there. It was the Finals and they won.
That's got to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen any Spurs fan say to try to diminish Parker's contributions to this team, and there's been a lot of dumb said.
as an aside, here's a recap of the 2001 draft from the Hawks perspective as retold by a former Hawks beat writer. The story of their terrible GM pointed towards passing on Parker due to being 'unsure' as the key to his losing his job is quite amusing.
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The playoffs define who you are as a player. Unless that player is Tony Parker. Because apparently you decided 2007 doesn't count.
And his playoff performances in previous non- le seasons don't count. Because those playoffs just don't count.
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Sweet Jesus! Between the idiot farm up here and troll town downstairs, I can't get a decent discussion anywhere.
I just don't see this Parker for picks, or even Parker + RJ for pick + another decent role player working out very well. I haven't analyzed scenarios with many teams, but I can't see it working out even mediocre-ly well after considering the big picture.
Given the Spurs community loves Duncan and Ginobili, and at least knowing it's essentially a guarantee Duncan will retire a Spur, this franchise is still in win now mode. And I truly think they have one more decent chance to make a deep playoff run as long as they keep the big 3 together and ship out the incompetent role player heads like RJ, Bonner, and even Hill is exchangeable.
The problem with trading away Parker while in win now mode is that it leaves a massive scoring whole and shifts more of the burden to Ginobili, who we all know is streaky as . , currently in the NBA unless you are Dallas, you can't expect to go far while expecting one main player to do most of the scoring. Duncan obviously can't be relied upon to score very much at this stage of his career, you just can't feed his body the ball 15-17 times a night and expect him to produce very efficiently in the playoffs, game after game. If they traded Parker via this route, they likely wouldn't get another big scorer in return...a Ginobili/Duncan 70-75% Spurs offense won't cut it.
If they trade Parker, picks isn't the route, they need a solid scorer in return and RJ has to go. All things considered, it's best they don't touch the big 3 and instead modify the bench/role players.
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