Kobe Bryant will go down in history as just a healthy Tracy McGrady

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yeah, Juwan, Alston, Mike James,

Jeff Van Gundy being a terrible coach in Houston was also a problem, particularly because of how bad he was against up-tempo, PG dominant teams. I remember every Houston vs. Phoenix matchup from 2005-2007 D'antoni outcoached the out of Van Gundy, the Suns dictated the tempo of the game, and Nash would put up ungodly numbers.

2008 was really the do or die year for Houston. T-Mac was playing at an MVP level, they were the 1 seed when Yao went down (I think), the West was really compe ive but their was no dominant team in the conference that year, and their supporting cast wasn't as bad as it used to be.

[midnightpulp]

Could be true. I personally don't recall. I was just responding to the claim that T-Mac was no longer an "upper tier wing" after the 2005 season. He still put up the numbers and got awards that would clearly still make him an upper tier wing after the 2005 season. Certainly not a prime T-Mac, but when you're an all star, an all NBA performer, and finish 6th in MVP voting, I don't think someone can argue he was no longer an upper tier wing.

Maybe I should've used the term "top tier" which at that time was (and still is) occupied by Kobe, Lebron, and Wade, who Tmac was definitely a level below.

[Koolaid_Man]

Maybe I should've used the term "top tier" which at that time was (and still is) occupied by Kobe, Lebron, and Wade, who Tmac was definitely a level below.

Just don't give a midget....

[picc84]

If you can't expect a 25/5/7 Tmac to get out of the first round with homecourt and a 25/10 center, you can't ever expect it.

No one thinks they should have made the finals. But the first round? Come on.

[lefty]

[midnightpulp]

If you can't expect a 25/5/7 Tmac to get out of the first round with homecourt and a 25/10 center, you can't ever expect it.

No one thinks they should have made the finals. But the first round? Come on.

There's really no excusing it. Again, he blew ass on the road.

[midnightpulp]

Just don't give a midget....

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[djohn2oo8]

http://www.blackplanet.com/koolaid_man/

[lefty]

http://www.blackplanet.com/koolaid_man/

[pass1st]

http://www.blackplanet.com/koolaid_man/

Guess paying child support counts as being as a parent

[nevitt_&_smrek]

He'll go down as the 2nd greatest shooting guard ever & the all-time leading scorer for the league's flagship franchise. While he isn't the most trustworthy guy in the biggest games, his overall body of work is quite impressive.