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  1. #151
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    so?

    Kobe won 5 without Shaq AND Gasol
    But he still hasn't won any without a top 10 player.

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    But he still hasn't won any without a top 10 player.
    give me your top 10 in 2009 and 2010

  3. #153
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    give me your top 10 in 2009 and 2010
    IMO, it's clear that Gasol was in the top 10. If you disagree with that it is you that should provide a list of 10 better players than him in 2009 and 2010.

    Can't wait to see this list.

  4. #154
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    IMO, it's clear that Gasol was in the top 10. If you disagree with that it is you that should provide a list of 10 better players than him in 2009 and 2010.

    Can't wait to see this list.
    kobe
    lebron
    wade
    howard
    cp3
    deron
    melo
    nash
    amare
    joe johnson
    brandon roy
    dirk

    lol duncans not even top 15
    Last edited by Deuce Bigalow; 09-06-2011 at 09:44 PM.

  5. #155
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    12.kobe
    1.lebron
    2.wade
    3.howard
    4.cp3
    5.deron
    6.melo
    7.nash
    8.amare
    9.joe johnson
    10.brandon roy
    11.dirk

    lol duncans not even top 15
    ----2009------------2010
    1.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Lebron better(higher TS%)
    2.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    3.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Howard better(higher TS%)
    4.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    5.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    6.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    7.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Nash better (higher TS%)
    8.Same ( TS%)-----Amare better (higher TS%)
    9.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    10.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    11.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    12.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)

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    ----2009------------2010
    1.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Lebron better(higher TS%)
    2.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    3.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Howard better(higher TS%)
    4.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    5.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    6.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    7.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Nash better (higher TS%)
    8.Same ( TS%)-----Amare better (higher TS%)
    9.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    10.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    11.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)
    12.Pau better(higher TS%)-----Pau better (higher TS%)

    lol dude

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    can someone please explain to me what TS% is? I honestly don't know.

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    can someone please explain to me what TS% is? I honestly don't know.
    TS%: True Shooting Percentage - what a player's shooting percentage would be if we accounted for free throws and 3-pointers. True Shooting Percentage = (Total points x 50) divided by [(FGA + (FTA x 0.44)]

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    TS%: True Shooting Percentage - what a player's shooting percentage would be if we accounted for free throws and 3-pointers. True Shooting Percentage = (Total points x 50) divided by [(FGA + (FTA x 0.44)]
    thanks a lot bro

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    can someone please explain to me what TS% is? I honestly don't know.
    It's the stat you use when you can't make your point with just shooting %

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    can someone please explain to me what TS% is? I honestly don't know.
    It's the shooting percentage of wishful thinkers

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    It's the shooting percentage of wishful thinkers
    I only used the TS% because that's what he likes to use to decide who's better.

    So in 2009 Pau was the best in the league and in 2010 Pau was the 5th best.(according to Deuce Bigalow)

    Kobe can't win without a top 5 player on his team.

    How many rings does Duncan have without a top 5 player?

    4

    How many rings does Kobe have without a top 5 player?

    0

    Me-"Kobe can't win without a top 10 player)
    Deuce-"Show me your top 10 player for 2009 and 2010"
    Me-"No you"
    Deuce-" Here is 12 players"
    Me-"Actually according to your TS% rating standard Pau was top 5 both years"

    Deuce

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    I only used the TS% because that's what he likes to use to decide who's better.

    So in 2009 Pau was the best in the league and in 2010 Pau was the 5th best.(according to Deuce Bigalow)

    Kobe can't win without a top 5 player on his team.

    How many rings does Duncan have without a top 5 player?

    4

    How many rings does Kobe have without a top 5 player?

    0

    Me-"Kobe can't win without a top 10 player)
    Deuce-"Show me your top 10 player for 2009 and 2010"
    Me-"No you"
    Deuce-" Here is 12 players"
    Me-"Actually according to your TS% rating standard Pau was top 5 both years"

    Deuce
    nice pwnage bro, also ts is what you use, when defence doesnt favour your argument, duncans rebounding and defence > kobe beans

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    nice pwnage bro, also ts is what you use, when defence doesnt favour your argument, duncans rebounding and defence > kobe beans
    tims defense > kobes
    kobes offense >>> tims

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    I only used the TS% because that's what he likes to use to decide who's better.

    So in 2009 Pau was the best in the league and in 2010 Pau was the 5th best.(according to Deuce Bigalow)

    Kobe can't win without a top 5 player on his team.

    How many rings does Duncan have without a top 5 player?

    4

    How many rings does Kobe have without a top 5 player?

    0

    Me-"Kobe can't win without a top 10 player)
    Deuce-"Show me your top 10 player for 2009 and 2010"
    Me-"No you"
    Deuce-" Here is 12 players"
    Me-"Actually according to your TS% rating standard Pau was top 5 both years"

    Deuce

    when a guard (manu in 05) has a way higher TS%, like 10+% over a 7 footer (duncan in 05) then it means something

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    tims defense > kobes
    kobes offense >>> tims
    since efficient shooting >> chucking (lol 40% in the finals as second option)

    more like

    tims defense >>> kobes
    kobes offense > tims

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    since efficient shooting >> chucking (lol 40% in the finals as second option)

    more like

    tims defense >>> kobes
    kobes offense > tims
    career TS% Regular season
    Kobe - .556
    Duncan - .552

    career TS% Playoffs
    Kobe - .542
    Duncan - .550

    and btw, Duncan shot below 50% in 3/4 of his Finals, for a big man lol
    .419 in 2005, a career 47% finals FG%, not good for a big man

    there efficiency are basically equal, but Kobe has way more points, and of course as a guard way more assists and better playmaking ability, and clutch shots made in his career
    kobe offensively >>> tim offensively

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    when a guard (manu in 05) has a way higher TS%, like 10+% over a 7 footer (duncan in 05) then it means something

    Come talk to me when Kobe can lead the team in TS% during the regular season or the playoffs during a championship year.

    Comparing the 2nd best player on the team to Tim Duncan.

  19. #169
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    Come talk to me when Kobe
    You don't have to wait to come talk to Cubby. I talk to you.

    I say:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Merlin: 4

  20. #170
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    Come talk to me when Kobe can lead the team in TS% during the regular season or the playoffs during a championship year.

    Comparing the 2nd best player on the team to Tim Duncan.
    Kobe is a 6'6" Shooting Guard
    Duncan is a 7' Center-Power Forward

    Kobe
    2001 Playoffs - .555 TS%
    2009 Playoffs - .564 TS%
    2010 Playoffs - .567 TS%


    Duncan
    2005 Playoffs - .526 TS%
    2007 playoffs - .556 TS%

    2 of Kobe's championships runs are more efficient than half of Duncan's

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    Come talk to me when Kobe can lead the team in TS% during the regular season or the playoffs during a championship year.

    Comparing the 2nd best player on the team to Tim Duncan.

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    Duncan is the man. Top dog on offense and defense for his entire career.

    Kobe is a sidekick that can't ever lead the team in TS%.

  23. #173
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    Duncan is the man. Top dog on offense and defense for his entire career.
    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Merlin: 4

    Stings, don't it?

    Tougheth lucketh.

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    Kobe is a 6'6" Shooting Guard
    Duncan is a 7' Center-Power Forward

    Kobe
    2001 Playoffs - .555 TS%
    2009 Playoffs - .564 TS%
    2010 Playoffs - .567 TS%


    Duncan
    2005 Playoffs - .526 TS%
    2007 playoffs - .556 TS%

    2 of Kobe's championships runs are more efficient than half of Duncan's

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    Duncan never led the team in TS% during a championship run

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