Pacquiao vs Marquez

[Venti Quattro]

Where was the blinding speed that pundits were saying Manny was showing during training sessions? Marquez knew where Manny was coming from rounds 1 to 12.

[TheMACHINE]

Excuses...Manny won...and won barely. Where's the excuses? Im not the ones who used "robbery" and "doesn't deserve". Seems like the JMM fans are the ones making excuses and being emotional in here. Pac fans in here are simply stating it was a close fight that can easily gone either way.

[baseline bum]

I'm a Pac fan and not a JMM one, and Manny got beat. Manny couldn't land . The story of the fight was Manny swings and misses. He fought a stupid fight never going to the body and deserved the loss. Venti is right; Manny's fame and congressional job have softened his ass up. I miss the Manny who ed more Mexicans up than the INS.

[IronMaxipad]

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Here you see Manny aggressively taking lead rights.

[TheMACHINE]

I'm a Pac fan and not a JMM one, and Manny got beat. Manny couldn't land . The story of the fight was Manny swings and misses. He fought a stupid fight never going to the body and deserved the loss. Venti is right; Manny's fame and congressional job have softened his ass up. I miss the Manny who ed more Mexicans up than the INS.

I respect this view. Though its unfortunate that Marquez slow down at the end which most jmm fans even admit.

[Cry Havoc]

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Here you see Manny aggressively taking lead rights.

3 moments in the fight = the entire fight, got it.

[IronMaxipad]

3 moments in the fight = the entire fight, got it.

lol? Reading a little to much into a gif i think.

[IronMaxipad]

But those rights were landing all night.

[IronMaxipad]

Where was the blinding speed that pundits were saying Manny was showing during training sessions? Marquez knew where Manny was coming from rounds 1 to 12.

Timing beats speed.

[ezau]

A prominent SI boxing columnist had it at a draw:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t13_a5

I don't see how such a close fight that many boxing fans list as a draw is "robbery" if the victory is given to the champ. That's how boxing has been since it's been televised.

I had it a draw because Marquez hardly ever actually fought with Manny, he seemed content to rest on his laurels and just throw here and there. It would be one thing if these guys were on the undercard, but for Marquez having Manny so figured out, he certainly seemed hesitant to actually do anything except back up and throw straights. That's not how you TAKE a championship belt in my book.

Also: Since when have close rounds not gone to the champ? You want the belt? Don't leave it up to the judges. Don't even give them a choice. Dominate the fight thoroughly, or knock him the out.

Just like every other sport: If you let time go down to 10 seconds and you lose on a bad call, you can't really blame the refs, because you let it get there in the first place.

Manny threw more, landed more, and landed more power punches. They might not have been as flashy as Marquez's shots, but this is FAR from robbery. In a close fight the aggressor will almost always bear out the win, especially considering he's the champ.

Touche. Just like in basketball, boxing superstars get the nod of the judges in close rounds. Marquez landed the flashier punches but that's about it. Pacquiao was the aggressor all fight long.

Pacquiao- 2
Marquez-0

[ezau]

Proffesional Boxers opinion:


SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
Robbery!!!!

andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
Marquez won this fight, period!!

jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
On my card Marquez WON!!!!

AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.

PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!

AndreBerto Andre Berto
Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though

RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!

ChrisArreola Chris Arreola
Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****.

DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!

andredirrell Andre Dirrell
I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac

jcchavezjr1 Julio Cesar Chavez
Gano marquez hoy. Fue un robo juan manuel gano claramente. esto esto es malo para el boxeo. Saludo a todos

SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!

_FernandoVargas FerozFernandoVargas
MARQUEZ 8 - 4!!!!!! THEY BETTER NOT ROB MARQUEZ!!!!

THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
@FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!

TheArtistPerez Michael Angelo Perez
If I was #Marquez I'll be holding my head high , cause the whole world know he won. **** what the judges say.

1Babybull Juan Diaz
Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges

Pacquiao 2

Marquez 0

Try again

[ezau]

why are pac s so ing stupid? Marques threw and landed more punches the first 2 fights. So by your logic you're aggreeing that Marquez should've won the first 2 fights?

Compubox

LOL knocked down 4 times
LOL counterpunching
LOL thinking that he dethroned Pac
LOL 0-3 against Pac

[ezau]

Who land the clean and effective punches?
Who had ring generalship?
Who controlled the tempo and the pace the entire night?

Ring generalship for Marquez= backpedaling and counterpunching. Yeah that's ring generalship

Pacquiao-2
Marquez-0

Try again

[ezau]

In boxing there's a concept called 'ring generalship'. You see the aggressor as the only one controlling the fight. Marquez was the matador to the bull. He blocked and avoided most of what Pac threw while landing the counters. If you're giving rounds to manny on aggression, then it has to be effective which it wasn't. Causing lots of damage with the hits landed, or keeping a guy wary or on his bike, etc. Manny did not boss Marquez. He ran into tons of punches. He did not dictate the pace of the fight. He looked lost in a lot of those rounds.

Don't know

[ezau]

And then he wonders why they call them pac s..


If you haven't noticed yet the whole boxing world is saying marquez won.

Well they should give Marquez the WBO welterweight le then.

LOL no le

[ezau]

Lol @ erik morales claiming "Marquez beat the out of Pacman"...really? LoL

Dude is just butthurt Pacquiao ended his pathetic career in their trilogy

[ezau]

Ive watched the first two fights multiple times and thought Manny won both by a close decision. I saw last nights fight and thought it was one of the worst scores ive ever seen in boxing. Manny is the better brawler and Marquez is the better boxer. Everything that Manny had success with in the first two fights was neutralized in the third fight. Just because Manny was coming forward doesn't mean he was the more aggressive fighter. Marquez fought a perfect fight and should have been given the win, but we all know why he didn't get it. Id like to know what Arum was saying to Marquez directly after the decision was called. He was begging for something then Marquez just left the ring. The fans spoke by booing. The fighters spoke by tweeting. The last time I saw a decision this bad was Holyfield vs Lennox. Marquez should move on.

I'm sure Marquez will be bitter all his life because of getting flattened by Pac in all their three fights.

[ezau]

You don't watch boxing do you? If you did you would know that there are over 20 mexicans that are current world le holders. the most of any other nationality

How many pinoy wolrd champions are there 2?

After pacquiao who's left?

Barrera check
Morales check
Margariro check
De La Hoya check
Marquez check

All legends, all losers against Pacquiao. If Julio Cesar Chavez was fighting, Pac would destroy that bum in three rounds.

[ezau]

You pac s are a blind bunch. When Mayweather kicks his ass then you will say hes too old, even though Mayweather is older.

That fight should happen ASAP

[ezau]

Shut the up. He know he lost so he went to his corner and start crying.

So this is what you do when you're not sucking Kool's

[ezau]

But those rights were landing all night.

Still not enough to beat the Pac-Monster. Sorry, GIFs don't equal a le belt.

[ezau]

Look at Marquez intentionally stepping on Pac's foot to prevent him from using his vaunted footwork:

[hater]

I had a draw up to the 12th round and then Manny won that round. So it was a very close fight that could have gone either way. Welcome to boxing. Usually the benefit of the doubt is given to the superstar champ.

As to why it was such a close fight? Marquez always give Manny trouble. o?

[TheMACHINE]

Hater is right...there is always the key "issues" that sway the scorecards to pacs favor:

Fight one: the three knockdowns in round 1
Fight two: the only knockdown in the late rounds
Fight three: giving up round 12 cuz he thought he was winning.

[pawe]

But according to Marquez supporters here, Marquez was the aggressor all night.
LOL counterpuncher being the aggressor.

Everyone knows Pacman will be the aggressor whoever he fights in the ring. That's his style.
That JMM loser should just retire and give it a rest. Best he can do is to just draw against Pacman.