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    Diabetes, hypertension and heart disease are real.

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    It's extremely hard to lose weight, and maintain lean weight with exercise.

    not for a kid.

    But I agree that it's not all due to lack of excercise. I think a lot of it is due to both parents working or being lazy or whatever. And it's easier (and often cheaper) to buy McDonalds. But surely a good portion had to do with all the kids sitting around on the computers/video games or watching 1 of 30 channels of TV geared to them.

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    This is a rare moment, but I agree with DarrinS. If the two aren't supposed to have any equivalence, then what's the point of putting them back-to-back in the same article? While there might be some similiarities, I don't think they're justified enough to be viewed in the same light.
    Giving an individual child a hamburger is certainly not equivalent to rape. OTOH, we are not talking about giving an individual child a hamburger.

    We are talking about the 60 million children that go to K-12 in the US that are effected by this. On average they go to school 180 days per year. One meal is about 30% of a daily caloric intake so its conservative to estimate that at least 10% of the calories that our kids are exposed to are . Ag was kind enough to give some pretty interesting health figures

    Its not difficult to see why this may be a problem despite the poo-pooing Darrin is once again doing. Maybe the pizza is getting raped by a glacier.

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    Anyone else thinking eating pizza <> getting anally raped ?
    What kind of pizza?

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    Fat/obese k-12ers can't be addressed successfully without addressing the fat/obese parents they grow up with, and the fat/obese people clogging up the entire American landscape.

    Americans Are Fat, And Expected To Get Much Fatter

    If Americans stay on this path, 83 percent of men will be overweight or obese by 2020. Women are right behind them, with 72 percent projected to be overweight or obese by then.

    ooked at current rates for cardiovascular risk factors including smoking, lack of exercise, diet, weight, blood pressure and cholesterol. He found that reductions in smoking, high cholesterol and high blood pressure since 1988 have been offset by weight gain, diabetes, and pre-diabetes.

    Then he took the increases in weight, diabetes, and prediabetes, and predicted where they would go in the next two decades. That's how he came up with more than three-quarters of Americans becoming overweight.

    "It's really striking," Huffman told Shots. "It, gosh, it makes you want to figure out solutions."

    That's especially true because we aren't exemplars of healthy living right now. Right now, 32 percent of men and 34 percent of women are obese. Those numbers are projected to rise to 43 and 42 percent in 2020, nudging up toward half of all people.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011...r?sc=17&f=1003

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    Of course, overeating means overbuying, so BigFood has a vested interest in increasing the 100Bs of pounds of grease sloshing around in Americans. And overeating means diseases, so sick-care has vested interest in Americans inflicting themselves with lifestyle diseases.

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    Fact is, nutritional choices have declined in quality along with a decrease in activity. They're co-contributors to be sure.
    Indeed. To echo Drachen who once endowed me with the following:
    ing Thank you.

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    It's extremely hard to lose weight, and maintain lean weight with exercise.
    This is demonstrably false.

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    then show me a study, studies where two groups, with diet only and with exercise only, or diet vs diet+exercise, got/maintained same or better weight loss results.

    Every study I've seen in the past couple years has shown that exercise is a very ineffective way for greasebags to lose and keep off weight.

    Eat well to lose weight and keep it off.

    Exercise to be fit.

    Prepare to -slap yourself.

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    What kind of pizza?
    sausage....duh...

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    then show me a study, studies where two groups, with diet only and with exercise only, or diet vs diet+exercise, got/maintained same or better weight loss results.

    Every study I've seen in the past couple years has shown that exercise is a very ineffective way for greasebags to lose and keep off weight.

    Eat well to lose weight and keep it off.

    Exercise to be fit.

    Prepare to -slap yourself.
    Here's my ing study. Between the ages of 16 and 18, I ate whatever I wanted. After school, we would go eat two or three quarter pounders with cheese or three or four chick fil a sandwiches or Dairly Queen steak baskets with gravy, etc. We also played sports around the year. I did not gain one single pound until I got out of high school and stopped excercising as much.

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    I'm waiting for the first "fried pizza" menu item. The noose will have officially closed around our collective heads.

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    then show me a study, studies where two groups, with diet only and with exercise only, or diet vs diet+exercise, got/maintained same or better weight loss results.

    Every study I've seen in the past couple years has shown that exercise is a very ineffective way for greasebags to lose and keep off weight.

    Eat well to lose weight and keep it off.

    Exercise to be fit.

    Prepare to -slap yourself.
    lol afraid of the treadmill

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    I'm waiting for the first "fried pizza" menu item. The noose will have officially closed around our collective heads.
    noose closed


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    We are talking about the 60 million children that go to K-12 in the US that are effected by this. On average they go to school 180 days per year. One meal is about 30% of a daily caloric intake so its conservative to estimate that at least 10% of the calories that our kids are exposed to are . Ag was kind enough to give some pretty interesting health figures

    Its not difficult to see why this may be a problem despite the poo-pooing Darrin is once again doing. Maybe the pizza is getting raped by a glacier.
    I've already admitted it's a problem. A problem that I don't think rises to the moniker "abuse".

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    I've already admitted it's a problem. A problem that I don't think rises to the moniker "abuse".
    Its certainly an extreme but in the end its a matter of degree. If one were to feed children feces then it unquestionably be abuse right?

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    lol afraid of the treadmill
    no proof, huh, just your useless opinion.

    eg, you really think The Biggest Losers are gonna do bootcamp type exercises the rest of the lives? They'll greasebaggy as ever within a couple years, if not sooner.

    and look up how many calories are burned by an hour of intense exercise like running, rowing, biking

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    Its certainly an extreme but in the end its a matter of degree. If one were to feed children feces then it unquestionably be abuse right?
    Obviously. But by keeping these degrees, we prevent ourselves from descending into farcical situations. To me, saying that serving unhealthy food (that IS food) at schools is not abusive in the sense that, say, child rape is.

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    Obviously. But by keeping these degrees, we prevent ourselves from descending into farcical situations. To me, saying that serving unhealthy food (that IS food) at schools is not abusive in the sense that, say, child rape is.
    What about doing that to an entire generation versus doing it to 4 kids?

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    What about doing that to an entire generation versus doing it to 4 kids?
    The same logic can be used to say that there's no "torture" being done, it's just loud music being played, and lights being left on, and anyways, don't college kids haze each other? And THAT'S not torture! Heck, so they keep them awake, I remember I once had to stay awake for 3 days straight to study for a final!

    While the damage caused might be greater for an entire generation, it won't envisit the same amount of trauma/abuse that child rape assuredly will.

    How many raped kids do you think it would take to equal the damage that junk food in school lunches would cause? 100? 1000? Just wondering how much you equate child rape with abuse opposed to junk food.

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    no proof, huh, just your useless opinion.

    eg, you really think The Biggest Losers are gonna do bootcamp type exercises the rest of the lives? They'll greasebaggy as ever within a couple years, if not sooner.

    and look up how many calories are burned by an hour of intense exercise like running, rowing, biking
    The fact that you need proof that regular exercise - meaning daily - and a healthy diet will cut fat and put lean muscle on is ing insane. Do you think exercise and good nutrition is also a part of the VRWC?

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    IIRC the school hamburgers are soy and the fries are baked. And, you only get a single slice of pizza. This isn't why kids are fat. If you see a fat kid, odds are, the parents are fat too.

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    For the fat kids, the school lunch is probably the healthiest thing they eat all day.

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    Indeed. To echo Drachen who once endowed me with the following:
    ing Thank you.
    ing Thank you for the credit!

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    then show me a study, studies where two groups, with diet only and with exercise only, or diet vs diet+exercise, got/maintained same or better weight loss results.

    Every study I've seen in the past couple years has shown that exercise is a very ineffective way for greasebags to lose and keep off weight.

    Eat well to lose weight and keep it off.

    Exercise to be fit.

    Prepare to -slap yourself.
    Just go to the nearest military base, bot for your "study".
    And do us a favor and scream MIC VRWC at thee top of your little lungs while you're there.
    You ought to lose a couple of pounds just crapping your pants.

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    then show me a study, studies where two groups, with diet only and with exercise only, or diet vs diet+exercise, got/maintained same or better weight loss results.

    Every study I've seen in the past couple years has shown that exercise is a very ineffective way for greasebags to lose and keep off weight.

    Eat well to lose weight and keep it off.

    Exercise to be fit.

    Prepare to -slap yourself.
    I am not saying that boutons is correct here (I don't know), but I do know that it is pretty easy to drop weight if you change your diet. I made very minor (but sustainable) changes in my diet last december when I was 250, in early march I was 217.

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