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    After ALL this now he ing stays? If I'm the Magic, I'm insisting that he sign the full extension this summer or I'm trading his ass. No player is worth going through the drama Orlando has dealt with the last year and a half. It he waives the ETO, it just sets the team up for another year of bull .

    The with that.
    I don't understand why he didn't opt in in the first place. Opting in then telling the Magic he doesn't plan to re-sign is basically a guarantee of a bigger contract than he would get if he was traded now. The only difference is he finishes the year in Orlando and gets traded during the summer.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA

    Nets are close to sending Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williams and a protected 1st round pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace, league sources tell Y!

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
    Nets are close to sending Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williams and a protected 1st round pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace, league sources tell Y!

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA

    Nets are close to sending Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williams and a protected 1st round pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace, league sources tell Y!
    Beat me to it

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    Some interesting trades so far today. Should be a fun next few hours

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    Timvp, what do you think of the Barbosa to Indiana trade? Reckon this was the best they could get with their cap space? Not much time and a role for Barbosa with Hill, Collison and George there.

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    Timvp, what do you think of the Barbosa to Indiana trade? Reckon this was the best they could get with their cap space? Not much time and a role for Barbosa with Hill, Collison and George there.
    George Hill has been horrendous at point guard for the Pacers. They've basically given up on that experiment and are using AJ Price at backup point guard. I'm guessing by bringing in Barbosa, they are going to try a Barbosa/Hill backcourt to see if that works.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA

    Nets are close to sending Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williams and a protected 1st round pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace, league sources tell Y!
    I can't believe Wallace trade value is so low.

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    Maybe Wallace is done with Portland ? Their latest results may be saying that there are some issues between players, coachees or something.

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    2 more hours

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    George Hill has been horrendous at point guard for the Pacers.
    George Hill as a PG this year: 4 assists per 48 min.

    http://www.82games.com/1112/11IND3.HTM#bypos

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    What pisses me off is I get all antsy like this every season and rarely do the Spurs do ...and then when they actually are they get the papers into the league office too late.

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    I can't believe Wallace trade value is so low.
    The Blazers trade two first rounders for Wallace. A year later, they trade him away for one first rounder. Ouch.

    That said, the Blazers were screwed either way because Wallace sucks so much on the road. They weren't going to win with a player who is only good at home.

    For the Spurs, if they were interested in Babbitt, he probably became unattainable now. And in the offseason, the chances of stealing Batum went from slim to none unless the Spurs throw max money at him ... which would be dumb.

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    Only 2 hours left, Bruno, based on the moves so far (especially the Nets) do you think it has helped the scenario where Diaw is bought out?

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    Yeap, that means Blazers have plans for Batum, rather than Wallace. Which means no Batum for Spurs.

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    What soap opera DHoward has turned into...he now decides to stay in Orlando..Poor guy making over 19,000,000 next year..now ESPN will proceed to talk about why he decided to stay and at what point he came to this revelation. oh and by the way the Spurs beat the Magic....

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    George Hill as a PG this year: 4 assists per 48 min.

    http://www.82games.com/1112/11IND3.HTM#bypos
    Even worse, look at the team's scoring while Hill is at point guard. 80 points per 48 minutes? I knew he wasn't a real point guard but that's absurdly low.

    A couple weeks ago I tried to figure out why they aren't using him at point guard anymore ... but then I saw that number and completely understood.

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    The Blazers trade two first rounders for Wallace. A year later, they trade him away for one first rounder. Ouch.
    It's even less that that because they will take Shawne Williams who has a negative value.

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    What an awesome trade that turned out to be eh? Kawhi is already a more useful player than Hill ever was

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    Even worse, look at the team's scoring while Hill is at point guard. 80 points per 48 minutes? I knew he wasn't a real point guard but that's absurdly low.
    That's brutal.

    But yeah, Spurs should have traded Parker and have Hill as their starting PG...

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    Even worse, look at the team's scoring while Hill is at point guard. 80 points per 48 minutes? I knew he wasn't a real point guard but that's absurdly low.

    A couple weeks ago I tried to figure out why they aren't using him at point guard anymore ... but then I saw that number and completely understood.
    was it that bad when he was here or has he just given up on trying to be a point guard? I mean I kow he sucked at backup here but was it anywhere near 4 assist per 48min?

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    Jermaine O`neal a new ring ?

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    Only 2 hours left, Bruno, based on the moves so far (especially the Nets) do you think it has helped the scenario where Diaw is bought out?
    With Howard staying in Orlando, Nest should be way less interested in clearing cap space for this summer. And if they do the Wallace trade, the Diaw trade makes quite no sense for them.

    It's looking good on the Diaw front but there could have other teams than Nets interested in him and his expiring contract.

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    But yeah, Spurs should have traded Parker and have Hill as their starting PG...
    I'm hoping the Spurs pulled a misdirection play on the Pacers.

    "We love Hill so much we are going to trade Parker for a lottery pick!"

    "Ah man, nobody would give us a lottery pick. "

    "Hey, Larry Bird, we almost traded Parker because we love Hill so much but we can't have both. Tell you what, we'll do Hill a favor and trade him back home if you give us your non-lottery pick, some Euro scrub and a second rounder. We love Hill but we want to be fair to him."

    "Deal? Okay. Thanks, Larry Legend.




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    What an awesome trade that turned out to be eh? Kawhi is already a more useful player than Hill ever was
    True that. I think that the idea of George Hill (i.e. combo guard that can run offense, take over at times and play reliable D at multiple positions) was better than the reality. With Kawhi, I'm not even certain we know his full potential yet.

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