How much does a girl's past..

[CuckingFunt]

It's not the mans place to assume that maybe if he s her shes going to expect more! He doesn't owe her . It's the chick getting hurt who is making false assumptions. Maybe she should be more careful next time and not spread her legs. Save that for a man who actually cares about her and he won't leave her.

Why?

Wouldn't it cut down on the stress and drama of clingy girls if men were up front about not wanting anything more than a one night stand, rather than ing a girl under the assumption that she'll magically know what he's interested it?

Seems as if most of your theories are based on the assumption that women are always to blame for the things that go wrong in interactions in which two people are involved. If they don't want to , they're prudes. If they do want to , they're s. If they do want to , and they get the wrong idea about your intentions, then they should have assumed you just wanted sex.

[CuckingFunt]

Women with this mindset are pathetic. Expectations set by society are completely different for both sexes. Women have men at their mercy, there is no reason for them to sleep around when they can be selective about it. Men do have less self control when it comes to sex btw, that doesnt mean it makes its ok for women to stoop down to that level.

Why would it be assumed that women who sleep around aren't being selective?

[CuckingFunt]

A lot of the people in this thread are destined to a long future of making themselves and others completely ing miserable.

[CuckingFunt]

it's not the mans place to tell a woman not to make false assumptions, whatever assumptions she makes are her own. no sane person believes that just becuase a person s them that they want a relationship. being naive isn't the other persons fault.

An adult interaction, no matter how casual, should involve conversation, not assumption.

[JoeChalupa]

he has to pay child support you idiot and deal with a he doesn't want to be with from now on in order to see his kid, of course it's a mistake

So then he should be a "no" due to his past correct?

[JoeChalupa]

Most men will say or do anything if it means getting some ass. Even if he knows or thinks she is a .

[JoeChalupa]

exactly, but there's a huge difference between "getting ass" and being in a relationship with the chick. that's what this thread is about.

No, it is about about knowing a women's past and holding it against her and not having the same standards about men.

[CuckingFunt]

of course there's conversation, but it doesn't always involve relationships and talk about your futures together lol.

It should. Even if it's just long enough to say there isn't going to be one. If a guy isn't super clear about his intentions, any misunderstanding is just as much his fault as it is the girl's for making incorrect assumptions.

[JoeChalupa]

exactly, but there's a huge difference between "getting ass" and being in a relationship with the chick. that's what this thread is about.

A woman may have the same exact opinion..."getting " isn't the same as being in a relationship.

[Halberto]

I understand how theres a double standard and it's unfair to women if they out like men, but let's put all the bull aside. Men by nature are driven to sleep with as many women as possible, you see it in other species throughout nature and it undeniable. When a woman willingly shares herself with a large amount of men that says something about the man that falls for her. Spare me the "the person she sticks with must be special" speech. Bull .

[CuckingFunt]

I understand how theres a double standard and it's unfair to women if they out like men, but let's put all the bull aside. Men by nature are driven to sleep with as many women as possible, you see it in other species throughout nature and it undeniable. When a woman willingly shares herself with a large amount of men that says something about the man that falls for her. Spare me the "the person she sticks with must be special" speech. Bull .

None of those other species, save the bonobo, has sex for pleasure. Therefore, any comparison is impossible.

[JoeChalupa]

All I'm saying is that when I was a younger stud I did want and sleep with as many women as I could and few, yeah I had feelings for but never serious, and when I got older and wiser, allegedy, I knew I was ready to settle down and when I met my wife I knew she was the one and I was ready to grow up and be a man. I would think the same applies to women....no? And it really isn't the same since we men KNOW we cannot ever get pregnant and if we do impregnate...well...let's just say we don't have to stick around to see how the story ends. But she does.
It ain't as simple as it may sound.

[Halberto]

I'm pretty hammered, but I take this subject to heart. s, don't date them.

[FkLA]

I understand how theres a double standard and it's unfair to women if they out like men, but let's put all the bull aside. Men by nature are driven to sleep with as many women as possible, you see it in other species throughout nature and it undeniable. When a woman willingly shares herself with a large amount of men that says something about the man that falls for her. Spare me the "the person she sticks with must be special" speech. Bull .

[CuckingFunt]

the past matters, everything in life matters. it speaks volumes about her character.

Incidentally, I don't disagree with this statement. I think the past absolutely does matter. And that it absolutely can speak volumes about a person's character.

Where you lose me is in the assumption that lots of sexual partners automatically points to bad character, and that few-to-no sexual partners automatically points to good character. Or that what it says about a person's character is apparently gender dependent.

[JoeChalupa]

the past matters, everything in life matters. it speaks volumes about his character.

fify. Goes both ways, no?

[FkLA]

Why would it be assumed that women who sleep around aren't being selective?

Being selective in the sense that they can choose a decent guy to date and eventually sleep with. Not selective in the sense that they turn down 10 guys at a bar and go home with the one they want. And before you throw it out there, its completely different for guys.

[CuckingFunt]

Being selective in the sense that they can choose a decent guy to date and eventually sleep with. Not selective in the sense that they turn down 10 guys at a bar and go home with the one they want. And before you throw it out there, its completely different for guys.

Why?

[The Reckoning]

You say that, but that's pretty naive. Imagine meeting men she calls friends and finding out later they ed. Not cool. Makes you wonder about every guy she introduces to you as her friend... It can with your head. It did with me at least.

we talking about a relationship then? oh i thought just to have for the night.

eh, i dont actively search for relationships ie: date. therefore if i end up in a relationship its because a woman made a damn good impression on me and things work out. if shes a bag then that wouldnt be a good impression.

pretty obvious.

[FkLA]

Why?

So basically its ok for women to sleep around because men do it, right?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

[The Reckoning]

I'm pretty hammered, but I take this subject to heart. s, don't date them.

its all about the context.

be independent, responsible, make some $$$$$ and prove that youre the real deal, and good women will notice. chasing women is a bad idea. women are choosy, and they will find you if youre living on top.

dont go to dirty 6th to meet women. theres a reason theyre down there in the first place.

going there myself right now btw. going to hit on s .

[CuckingFunt]

So basically its ok for women to sleep around because men do it, right?

Why wouldn't it be?

i''m not sure that it makes her a bad person but real men don't want sloppy seconds. i'm young, educated, and after this summer is over will make very good money for the rest of my life and make sound decisions. i don't have to settle and won't. my last gf was a virgin, and if i ever do decide to get into a relationship again, she will also be a good respectable girl. i'll let you date the losers.

I think real men are more secure than that.

and if CuckingFunt really had it all figured out like she says she does, she wouldn't be like 33 or whatever and unmarried.

I've never claimed to have it all figured out.

And getting married isn't something I've tried at and failed. It's not everyone's goal. I've had one relationship that I could have seen moving toward marriage, but it didn't happen. It wouldn't have been legally allowed, anyway.

people with her morals and values usually date for a period of a several years then get with someone else and the cycle goes on.

I don't know what people with my morals and values usually do. Or if that's something to strive for. Or to measure myself against. Just know that I've had a healthy and rewarding sex/romantic life that has been relatively free of drama and heartbreak.

[mavs>spurs]

Why wouldn't it be?



I think real men are more secure than that.



I've never claimed to have it all figured out.

And getting married isn't something I've tried at and failed. It's not everyone's goal. I've had one relationship that I could have seen moving toward marriage, but it didn't happen. It wouldn't have been legally allowed, anyway.



I don't know what people with my morals and values usually do. Or if that's something to strive for. Or to measure myself against. Just know that I've had a healthy and rewarding sex/romantic life that has been relatively free of drama and heartbreak.

it's not about security, you still aren't getting it. You're a naive woman. A woman sleeping around has nothing to do with the guys security or lack thereof, it's on her and her only.

Yes your relationshipS (plural) have been so rewarding that you're 33 with multiple exes and nothing to show for it still not married. Obviously they all ended for whatever reason meaning they failed. If you're 33 and boasting about your many relationships but they all failed then maybe it's you.

[mavs>spurs]

Cf is a classic example of modern day serial monogamy. Because of he way you think (which I think is wrong) you are still single and will never experience growing old together wih someone and the joys of spending a lifetime with that special one. You'll be one of those who get married at 40, you and some other guy who's slept around his whole life will settle on eachother because you're both over the hill and lonely. You shouldn't be on here lecturing people about relationships when you've so obviously failed in them. When my mom was your age, she'd been married for 12 years and my grandmothers on both sides even longer than that at your age. You'll never experience a 50 year anniversary like we celebrated for my grandparents. You're a regular modern day serial monogamist with a broken moral compass.