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  1. #151
    Veteran Kai's Avatar
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    he def on the right track ta makin okc look like chumps. If I see him doin this against a contending team a few times then I'll say he legit star wit superstar potential.
    He dropped 37 and then 45 with literally 2 practices with teammates that don't even know each other (11 new players), let alone him, and you won't even admit he has superstar potential?

  2. #152
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    and 1s in the clutch


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    I know people are going crazy, but it's just his ego taking over and trying to prove OKC made a mistake and they sure as did. Harden is no doubt a max player considering the ridiculous contracts players like Amare, Melo, Westbrook and Hibbert got recently.

    BTW Jeremy Lin isn't looking too shabby either.

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    rockets got no system so it takes no time for the new acquisitions to make instant impacts imho. the ineptness of the team is a fair quintessence of the city tbh, which is the dumbest of all major US cities with populations of 1m or more

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    Rogue why are you such a hater? Yao is gone, let it go bruh.

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    rockets got no system so it takes no time for the new acquisitions to make instant impacts imho. the ineptness of the team is a fair quintessence of the city tbh, which is the dumbest of all major US cities with populations of 1m or more
    You're hatred of Houston goes leaps and bounds.

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    H-town might not be the dumbest per official stats but you guys (rockets fans) just make my false assumption look true imho

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    21 points 10 rebs 7 assists for Linsanity. Not bad at all.

  9. #159
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    Rockets just need a big who can score and they will be lethal.

  10. #160
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    Morey let the world know after Harden's presser that they want another star. He might as well have shouted on a mountain top that he has room for another max, and he's looking to deal. IF Harden can keep it up, another star will gravitate here. That's how today's NBA works.

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    He's certainly doing a good job of proving Presti and co wrong...

  12. #162
    Let's hug it out bitch! Ari Gold's Avatar
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    martin's contract is expiring IIRC and it seems more like a salary dump move for them imho, they're based in a small market so it's understandable that they're tryna avoid paying luxury tax at all cost.

    and i don't think winning the championship was ever a realistic goal for this team even w/o trading harden, when miami was clearly dominating the league and are locked for future 5 consecutive les at least. OKC wouldn't win the championship anytime soon anyways so it seems to me that they just made a smart move in trading an inconsistent overrated for a bag of wonderkids and good financial flexibility imho
    OKC isn't that small a market, especially when they have one of the most marketable guys in the NBA, Durant, who's always posted all over ESPN and NBA tv. They could have afforded to pay Harden. The offer they refused to accept was only 1.25m a year more than what they offered. <<<< That is the main piece of info you need to know.

    They could've had Harden for 4 years @15m per, but they only wanted to pay 13.75m. Harden did not even ask for a max deal, he asked for 1 year and 1m less per year less than a max deal (20m less). They would not have been in the luxury tax except for like 1 year, and it wouldn't have cost them that much. What it would've cost them still wouldn't have put them in the red. They are well into the black right now

    Miami wasn't dominating the league, they're just dominating the east. If they were in the west, it wouldn't be a very easy road to the Finals. Precisely why OKC and LA aren't favored to win despite being good. Like Wilbon said, The Heat could be the 3rd best team in the NBA and still win the le. There's nobody out east who's even a challenge. . .weak/ ty conference for like 15th year in a row.

    OKC had excellent potential with Harden. Now their potential is gone. It was a matter of "we're winning NOW". . .now it's a matter of "wait 1-2 years from now" all over again. Constantly in a state of "wait 'til next year" while the owner pads his pockets. Tbh, they're not playing to win. They're playing to make money.

    I realize, you being a Heat fan, think OKC "wasn't gonna win with Miami being good now", but dude come on, you know that's bs. Miami isn't unstoppable. Never got 60 wins yet even in the weak east. Played 2nd best western conf team in Finals last year and 3rd best the year before (and still lost), and barely got there after getting pushed to 7 games by a hobbled, old Celtics team. They have their best team this year, but their track record is unimpressive when you look at how good they were projected to be.

    OKC would have been the best team going forward by far if they didn't trade Epic Beard Man. Now they're just another Moneyball team who's going to float around the 3-6 seed every year and never quite make it. Harden was the X factor. I think you can't argue that anymore with how good Harden is proving to be now that his powers have been unlocked in Houston.

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    Good to see the rockets with a exciting team, just need a big

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    in regards to your sig.


  16. #166
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    I've been in a the rockets type of mood for a while now and thought the Harden trade was good but overrated.

    Its not the numbers he's putting up, but the way he is. I like the fact the guy is relentless. I am as pessimistic as they come...and even I can't say anything. We have to wait for a more games but I like what I am seeing.

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    rockets got no system so it takes no time for the new acquisitions to make instant impacts imho. the ineptness of the team is a fair quintessence of the city tbh, which is the dumbest of all major US cities with populations of 1m or more
    this is ing hilarious but true haha.



    On a side note even though I've been away from basketball message boards for my growing hate of the NBA...I've totally realized that the sigs on spurstalk are enough to warrant coming to this site. I just spent the last 30 minutes being wooed by the sigs. Its better than free porn.

  18. #168
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    OKC isn't that small a market, especially when they have one of the most marketable guys in the NBA, Durant, who's always posted all over ESPN and NBA tv. They could have afforded to pay Harden. The offer they refused to accept was only 1.25m a year more than what they offered. <<<< That is the main piece of info you need to know.

    They could've had Harden for 4 years @15m per, but they only wanted to pay 13.75m. Harden did not even ask for a max deal, he asked for 1 year and 1m less per year less than a max deal (20m less). They would not have been in the luxury tax except for like 1 year, and it wouldn't have cost them that much. What it would've cost them still wouldn't have put them in the red. They are well into the black right now

    Miami wasn't dominating the league, they're just dominating the east. If they were in the west, it wouldn't be a very easy road to the Finals. Precisely why OKC and LA aren't favored to win despite being good. Like Wilbon said, The Heat could be the 3rd best team in the NBA and still win the le. There's nobody out east who's even a challenge. . .weak/ ty conference for like 15th year in a row.

    OKC had excellent potential with Harden. Now their potential is gone. It was a matter of "we're winning NOW". . .now it's a matter of "wait 1-2 years from now" all over again. Constantly in a state of "wait 'til next year" while the owner pads his pockets. Tbh, they're not playing to win. They're playing to make money.

    I realize, you being a Heat fan, think OKC "wasn't gonna win with Miami being good now", but dude come on, you know that's bs. Miami isn't unstoppable. Never got 60 wins yet even in the weak east. Played 2nd best western conf team in Finals last year and 3rd best the year before (and still lost), and barely got there after getting pushed to 7 games by a hobbled, old Celtics team. They have their best team this year, but their track record is unimpressive when you look at how good they were projected to be.

    OKC would have been the best team going forward by far if they didn't trade Epic Beard Man. Now they're just another Moneyball team who's going to float around the 3-6 seed every year and never quite make it. Harden was the X factor. I think you can't argue that anymore with how good Harden is proving to be now that his powers have been unlocked in Houston.
    No idea if the numbers are right but you brought the goods.

  19. #169
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    Latarian Milton aka Rogue aka the dumbest of all-time is such a dumbass tbh. Beard is a badass and Linsanity is a solid piece just like FkLA was saying when everybody and their moms was talking about both of them.
    Last edited by FkLA; 11-03-2012 at 02:58 AM.

  20. #170
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    Harden has come to play so far. Extremely impressive performances.

    If he can keep up this kind of play, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong about him. He is worth every penny of his contract and then some at 41pts/game.

    But where was this dominant scoring/passing guy in olympics? He'll get more minutes when not playing for the national team, yeah okay. But in the few minutes he was afforded in the olympics, he looked atrocious. Makes me think Harden is just hitting his totally unsustainabl hot streak.

  21. #171
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    Don't worry. He is going to ball in Rio.

  22. #172
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    Just crazy. He will come back to earth some eventually but right now he's dropping a huge dump on Oklahoma. Couldn't have happened to a nicer state.

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    premature ejaculation thread, havnt won against anyone worth mentioning

  24. #174
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    I'm rooting for Harden and the Rockets.

  25. #175
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    premature ejaculation thread, havnt won against anyone worth mentioning
    45 and 37 with only two days of practice.

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