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    +1 I don't really even want a trade involving SJAX. See what they can get for Blair/Bonner/Neal, etc; those type of trades and that is about it. Just to eliminate some of the depth clog, so Pop can define roles for the playoffs.
    I wouldn't trade Jack for Smith either. I just don't see how Smith fits on this team. Like others have said, he's not a great mid range player, he's not a great 3 point shooter. He's average or maybe above average at everything, definitely not worth a max contract.

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    The Spurs don't need a trade, tbh..it's not worth the risk IMO..

    OKC is worse, they lost Harden and there hasn't been any internal improvement..the Spurs have seen improvement from Leonard and Splitter..it's not as if they got dominated in last year's series, they simply choked and OKC stepped up in a long series..

    The Spurs improvements should suffice in closing the gap IMO..at this point, if the Spurs and Thunder are going to meet in the WCFs, it will be a toss-up that will be decided by execution, shooting/luck, etc..

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    Jackson is the biggest trade asset and tbh it makes a lot of sense to trade him. Let's face it, he's not playing very well right now and his departure would help acomodate the rotation (making Manu and Neal the wings off the bench and De Colo de backup PG).

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    Jackson is the biggest trade asset and tbh it makes a lot of sense to trade him. Let's face it, he's not playing very well right now and his departure would help acomodate the rotation (making Manu and Neal the wings off the bench and De Colo de backup PG).
    Do you really want Manu or Neal defending Durant when Kawhi needs a break to rest? I don't. That is why Jack is important. He's a gritty, tough, long defender who steps up his game in the Playoffs...

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    I would do Smith for Jack, tbh.

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    The Spurs don't need a trade, tbh..it's not worth the risk IMO..

    OKC is worse, they lost Harden and there hasn't been any internal improvement..the Spurs have seen improvement from Leonard and Splitter..it's not as if they got dominated in last year's series, they simply choked and OKC stepped up in a long series..

    The Spurs improvements should suffice in closing the gap IMO..at this point, if the Spurs and Thunder are going to meet in the WCFs, it will be a toss-up that will be decided by execution, shooting/luck, etc..
    +1. Agreed all around...

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    Do you really want Manu or Neal defending Durant when Kawhi needs a break to rest? I don't. That is why Jack is important. He's a gritty, tough, long defender who steps up his game in the Playoffs...
    I don't think having Manu/Green guard Durant for 10/15 minutes per game would make much of a difference. Either way, if we trade for Smith, he can pretty well do that job.

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    If Spurs get Smith without trading Splitter or Kawhi, Smith will be Spurs best option to play at SF when Kawhi is on the bench. A Smith/Splitter/Duncan combo would have some spacing issues but Smith at SF, with Diaw at PF and one of Splitter/Duncan in the middle should just work fine.

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    Bonner + Blair + Stack for Smith.

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    Bonner + Blair + Stack for Smith.
    Ok, Espn trade machine says yes- you can do it and it works. What is there for Hawks ? Smith is gone, Jax and Blair could be, and Bonner is not. They will spend additional money, do not get any talented player, any draft pick.

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    In the middle of the season for a bonehead...

    Pop has a problem integrating boneheads. There is a good chance Pop would dress him down, pouting or failure to bow to the Master would ensue, and Smith would have to die. Pop with Smith... Broccoli with ice cream... It's difficult to stomach.

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    Bonner + Blair + Stack for Smith.
    ESPN's trade machine should be banned.

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    The key question about trading Sjax for Smith (assuming we are sane and do not agree to move core players - Leonard, Tiago, even Green) is the opportunity cost. Any big trade we make will center on Sjax's expiring. If we trade that for Smith, obviously we can't use it in a trade for AK47 or Shawn Marion, or whoever. Given how bad a fit Smith could be with Pop, I would look at other opportunities (ie AK47, Marion ) first...

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    The Spurs don't need a trade, tbh..it's not worth the risk IMO..

    OKC is worse, they lost Harden and there hasn't been any internal improvement..the Spurs have seen improvement from Leonard and Splitter..it's not as if they got dominated in last year's series, they simply choked and OKC stepped up in a long series..

    The Spurs improvements should suffice in closing the gap IMO..at this point, if the Spurs and Thunder are going to meet in the WCFs, it will be a toss-up that will be decided by execution, shooting/luck, etc..
    I agree with that but, If I were looking to trade for a PF to fit in I would target Milsap over Smith....better fit offensively, althought Smith is a much better defender.

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    ESPN's trade machine should be banned.

    It's quite a useful tool. What should be banned is people who use it continuously to suggest crappy trades! Not every idea needs to be "shared"

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    It's quite a useful tool. What should be banned is people who use it continuously to suggest crappy trades! Not every idea needs to be "shared"
    they should just ban lebron, durant, irving, etc from the trade machine tbh

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    I'm not opposed to trading Jackson for a quality player to come off the bench, I just don't believe Josh Smith is that guy, nor do I think he would be willing to come off the bench, tbh..

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    I've seen it mentioned a couple times before but how would most feel about swapping Jack for Marion type of deal?

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    they should just ban lebron, durant, irving, etc from the trade machine tbh
    But then I wouldn't have my cool avatar.

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    But then I wouldn't have my cool avatar.
    This is true. What was in that proposed deal, anyway?

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    I've seen it mentioned a couple times before but how would most feel about swapping Jack for Marion type of deal?
    I think that Marion would be a much better fit for us. He can take over Jackson's minutes at SF, and he is a defender who has had success (ie not getting utterly crushed) against both Durant and Lebron before. The deal might even be doable without throwing in other assets - IMO, Cuban's strategy is to open up enough room for 2 max contracts this summer - which means moving Marion for an expiring(s) contract (and then of course dropping the rights that come with that contract). $10 Million in Expirings is hard to come by in the current NBA economy...

    My only quibble is that I think that I would prefer AK47 even more; but he would cost us at least a pick.

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    I've seen it mentioned a couple times before but how would most feel about swapping Jack for Marion type of deal?
    I'm not sure it would make that big a difference. Defensively, he'd probably be better, but it wouldn't be that drastic. Shooting wise, in the playoffs, I'd feel more comfy with Jack taking the shot. Jackson is definitely a more creative playmaker though.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...p-al-jefferson

    The Josh Smith saga

    Many executives around the league believe Atlanta GM Danny Ferry is intent on moving Josh Smith before the deadline. On Wednesday, three opposing GMs told me definitively that Ferry has decided not to re-sign Smith in free agency this summer and is trying hard to move him within the next week.

    The Nets remain one of the most interested teams and with Smith's recent statement that he wants a max deal, some clubs believe Brooklyn's offer of Kris Humphries and MarShon Brooks might be the best Atlanta gets. If that's the case, Ferry, who has interest in Brooks but not necessarily Humphries, may not budge and instead might keep Smith for the rest of the season.“

    Danny's a Spur. So he won't give him away, but if someone comes with a good offer, Josh Smith is gone.”-- unnamed rival executive

    "Danny's a Spur,'' one rival executive said, referring to Ferry's past work in San Antonio's front office. "So he won't give him away, but if someone comes with a good offer, Josh Smith is gone. I don't think Danny takes the Nets' deal. I think someone has to do better than that.''

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    Does this mean that tiago is whats keeping the spurs from aquiring smith..?

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    Quote: The Josh Smith saga

    Many executives around the league believe Atlanta GM Danny Ferry is intent on moving Josh Smith before the deadline. On Wednesday, three opposing GMs told me definitively that Ferry has decided not to re-sign Smith in free agency this summer and is trying hard to move him within the next week.

    The Nets remain one of the most interested teams and with Smith's recent statement that he wants a max deal, some clubs believe Brooklyn's offer of Kris Humphries and MarShon Brooks might be the best Atlanta gets. If that's the case, Ferry, who has interest in Brooks but not necessarily Humphries, may not budge and instead might keep Smith for the rest of the season.“

    Danny's a Spur. So he won't give him away, but if someone comes with a good offer, Josh Smith is gone.”-- unnamed rival executive

    "Danny's a Spur,'' one rival executive said, referring to Ferry's past work in San Antonio's front office. "So he won't give him away, but if someone comes with a good offer, Josh Smith is gone. I don't think Danny takes the Nets' deal. I think someone has to do better than that.''

    There must be better offer. Bad teams like Bobcat can trade for Smith with a pick+fillers and absorb his salary and resign him next year. They can't do anything better in draft and in free agency, can they?

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