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    Hey smeagol, suck a already.
    That's pretty clear in any language.

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    Hey he gotta feed his kids too!
    I was trying to post the same!!!

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    So Scola wants to get paid, just like 92% of other americans (myself included).
    Yes, if you talk about dreams so make the sacrifice to become an NBA player otherwise keep trying, Scola got his money, probably have a couple of M$ in the Bank, is 25 years old, make an invest and come to NBA like Manu did.

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    scola is a rookie in the NBA
    Was Manu a Rookie when he came to the NBA?

    Manu played more Game 7 than any player in the NBA, and Scola played more Hot games than Tony Parker or TD

    Manu became a pro since his 17, not 3 years ago, and Bogut is a Rookie

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    he doesn't want to. so he's not a saint. what's your point? He wants to get paid as part of his dream. good for him

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    Here's the translation. If another bi lingual poster can check, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Luis Scola:

    “I’m not mad for what happened with the Spurs. These are the rules of the game and I accept them. It’s the truth; I have no reason to be mad neither with the Spurs nor with Tau.”

    “My dream is still to be able to play in the NBA. Fortunately, I fulfilled my dreams with regards to the NT and with Tau. But I’m still missing one.”

    Luis and the NBA: How does the story continue?

    It seemed that everything was ready. SA had his rights after picking him in the 2002 draft and the franchise was convinced he was the player the Spurs needed. RC Buford and Pop has agreed: Scola was the chosen one. But there was not only the analysis related to his b-ball skills, but the economic analysis too.

    The Spurs checked their numbers after they renewed Horry’s contract (he was more expensive than expected). The Spurs gave Scola an offer for a little less than $7MM for 3 years. For Luis and his manager, it did not seem to be enough, given that out of that money they would have to pay Tau ($3.2MM) and subtract taxes (roughly 40%).

    Nevertheless, Scola was still confident. But the contract with Tau is far too complex (the contract does not specify what happens if Scola was picked in the second round of the draft – it does, if he were to have been picked in the first round). Moreover, Tau appears to be inflexible (they consider Luis as a key player). SA did not want to wait to see how the plot unraveled and went for their second best option (Oberto) before he (Oberto) was picked by somebody else.

    Now Luis’ situation is a more complex one. He needs the Spurs to trade him to another franchise. His agents have already requested this. But this is not an easy thing. The Champs might not want to trade his rights if they expect him to be a Spur in the future. If the Spurs decide to trade him, it is still a complex scenario because who ever picks him will have to negotiate with Tau. Scola cannot pay his buyout and then negotiate with an NBA team. It’s the other way around. First, Luis has to go to Tau with and offer from and NBA team in order for Tau to make effective the NBA clause ($3.2MM) and not the European clause ($14.5MM).

    His agents are confident, they even talk about four other NBA teams which are interest in Luis, but everything depends on the Spurs, Tau and also that another NBA team be ready to make a big bet. In other words, the third NBA team has to be willing to trade one of his players for Scola’s rights and give the Argentine at least, a $7.5MM contract. It’s not easy. We will have to wait and pray.

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    Seriously, the "best pf outside of US" and be making what, 900k!!????

    I'ts kinda messed up. I don't blame him to reject that offer.

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    "Hey baby que paso...thought I was your only vato"

    There...I am making an effort to English and Spanish!

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    As I remember the Spurs pay him 1.2 million per year
    Plus they offer him 54 millions for 6 years...

    Yep he only plays for the dream of being an NBA....

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    he doesn't want to. so he's not a saint. what's your point? He wants to get paid as part of his dream. good for him
    Even is he took the supposed 3year/$7M offer and paid the $3M over three years .. he's still get around $1M a year. That's getting paid. Scola is the one that signed that contract with the buyouts. It's not the Spurs fault that he has to pay them. They can't give him like 3year/$15M just so he can pay the buyout and still cash in. That's not how it works. The Spurs don't have money to throw around this summer.

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    Agreed. it's just not a good situation, I certainly don't think the spurs screwed him.

    he's in a lousy position, I just don't think it's outrageous that he wants to be traded.

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    The Spurs gave Scola an offer for a little less than $7MM for 3 years.
    In other words, the third NBA team has to be willing to trade one of his players for Scola’s rights and give the Argentine at least, a $7.5MM contract.
    So a little less than $7M wasn't good enough, but $7.5M is good enough?

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    after reading that article, SCOLA GOT SCREWED IN THE ASS
    he did?

    what makes you make such a bold statement as that

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    oK,
    But the NBA is wrong because there are too maney players underpayed too.

    If not check this:

    Bruce Bowen: 13 million/3 years
    Brent Barry: 24 Millions/4 years

    And if you have the Choice: Who do you choice? Barry or Bowen

    The Defenders are always underpayed in the NBA too and the Internationals too

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    bowen chose less to stay with the spurs

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    Not only the NBA, the whole world is wrong. , I'm underpayed too.

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    The Defenders are always underpayed in the NBA too and the Internationals too
    Bruce Bowen took less money from the Spurs so that Manu and Tony could get re-signed. He's taken less money from the Spurs twice now. He wants to play here .. he likes winning.

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    Spurs won't pay for him to be on the team, and if another NBA team wants him they have to give up a player to the Spurs PLUS deal with the bas s of Tau

    so trading a player means you are acting like an ass

    I would think most people would be happy to live on $1 million dollars per year
    would you not?

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    Even is he took the supposed 3year/$7M offer and paid the $3M over three years .. he's still get around $1M a year. That's getting paid. Scola is the one that signed that contract with the buyouts. It's not the Spurs fault that he has to pay them. They can't give him like 3year/$15M just so he can pay the buyout and still cash in. That's not how it works. The Spurs don't have money to throw around this summer.
    Ok, but why call him a whiner.
    The spurs dont have the money. Scola CANT pay his buyout. He's stuck.
    He already said it's not Spurs fault. Yes, he was (perhaps) mad at the spurs because they didnt do what he expected (the boy dreamed, everyone does).
    He thought he deserved more than what was offered (you can say unrealistic or whatever... but whiner?)
    He now wants a trade so he can make the NBA this year.
    If not, he plays for Tau. Tough luck.
    I think thats it.

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    I never listen a 30 millions offer to BB

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    If Scola pay his Buyout now and he remain one year in Europe, he can be a Free Agent next summer if i´m not wrong

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    Why did they offer Oberto more money then Scola?
    If they did indeed offer scola a 7 million contract, isnt that more than what we gave to Oberto?

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    If Scola pay his Buyout now and he remain one year in Europe, he can be a Free Agent next summer if i´m not wrong
    That depends on where he wanted to go if is another European Team is 14 mil, if is an NBA Team is 3 mil but he must have an offer....

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    Rattle of vengeance:

    There are basically two camps here. Those who set out to belittle and make fun of Scola for his desires to play for the Spurs or elsewhere in the NBA. And those who sympathize with him and feel, regardless of whether he or his agent is correct about the buyout, that it must suck to be prevented from doing what you want to in those situations. The people in the latter camp are mystified by all the talk of whining and petty invective.
    I disagree about the two camps. No one here is making fun of or belittling Scola for his desires about the NBA and/or the Spurs. I think everyone here understands that and sympathizes with him about it.

    The divergence of opinion comes on what can be done about it. The bottom line is that at this point in time, the SPURS CANNOT DO ANYTHING. Apparently, due to poor planning or misunderstanding or bluffing (or whatever) on his and his agent's part, there is nothing Scola can do about it either this year. Yes, that sucks for him. I think we all agree on that, too. It probably sucks for us, too. But it is what it is. The people who are mystified about "the talk of whining and petty invective", THAT THEY HAVE IMAGINED (I sure have not seen it), need to grow up and get a clue. They need to pay attention to what is being said here, the reasons for things being the way they are, and factor that into their moaning about Scola's poor unfortunate situation. Scola is a grown man. He's doing the work he wants to do and he's making a lot of money. His time will come.

    Get over it.

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    Oberto will now be known as Fabri.
    I'm naturally going with the Frito Lay angle. I'll be calling him "Oh Boy" Oberto.



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