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  1. #151
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    I think aTm needs to just cut this guy from the program. He did it, he's guilty and their are going to be ramifications. This is most likely his last year and if he gets suspended for any amount of time, aTm winds up a huge loser. Just cut him, get rid of the distraction that is Manziel and send a message to the rest of the country. aTm will survive. NO ONE is bigger than the team and the program.

    Whatever benefits came from JM are already accomplished. By the way, I'm no Manziel basher. I liked watching him play but the guy is on a path of self destruction. Someone needs to step in and save him from himself. Let him be done with it and enter the draft next year.

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    I think aTm needs to just cut this guy from the program. He did it, he's guilty and their are going to be ramifications. This is most likely his last year and if he gets suspended for any amount of time, aTm winds up a huge loser. Just cut him, get rid of the distraction that is Manziel and send a message to the rest of the country. aTm will survive. NO ONE is bigger than the team and the program.

    Whatever benefits came from JM are already accomplished. By the way, I'm no Manziel basher. I liked watching him play but the guy is on a path of self destruction. Someone needs to step in and save him from himself. Let him be done with it and enter the draft next year.
    Crofl what? On a path of self destruction? What has he done? Oh, so he parties, drinks sometimes and might smoke weed on occasion? If that is a path of self destruction, then I guess 98% of all college students are on a path of self destruction. Also, he is making money legally (in a business sense - although it is against NCAA guidelines) based on his own abilities? Oh the horror. If he was a business student at AM and ran a business this successful he would be lauded as a prodigy.

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    I think aTm needs to just cut this guy from the program. He did it, he's guilty and their are going to be ramifications. This is most likely his last year and if he gets suspended for any amount of time, aTm winds up a huge loser. Just cut him, get rid of the distraction that is Manziel and send a message to the rest of the country. aTm will survive. NO ONE is bigger than the team and the program.

    Whatever benefits came from JM are already accomplished. By the way, I'm no Manziel basher. I liked watching him play but the guy is on a path of self destruction. Someone needs to step in and save him from himself. Let him be done with it and enter the draft next year.

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  5. #155
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    I'll just keep the NCAA bashing on this thread. NCAA using our trademark on the wrong school. Wish we would sue them for it because them.

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    It's cute how Aggie thinks they came up with "12th Man" first when in reality, they ripped it off from Iowa

  7. #157
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    Crofl what? On a path of self destruction? What has he done? Oh, so he parties, drinks sometimes and might smoke weed on occasion? If that is a path of self destruction, then I guess 98% of all college students are on a path of self destruction. Also, he is making money legally (in a business sense - although it is against NCAA guidelines) based on his own abilities? Oh the horror. If he was a business student at AM and ran a business this successful he would be lauded as a prodigy.
    No, you're right...Going to Austin and trying to party with a UT fraternity shows great judgement. Letting down kids at a QB camp who are really looking forward to meeting you shows real maturity. Breaking NCAA rules by signing autographs and getting paid - thus jeopardizing the team's success if he misses time - isn't a selfish move on his part. Tweeting out idiotic pics and making inflammatory comments about your school is pure genius.

    All you apologists for this kid need to wake up. I'm a little surprised by the reaction in here but I guess I shouldn't be. aTm fans are starving for a National Championship and are willing to make him out to be some innocent kid who is going though learning/growing pains. Give me a break. He's not that stupid but he is stupid enough to get caught. Apparently he's part of the less than 1% of Aggie football players who seems to be running in to trouble. WTF is that about? Are you going to tell me that he hasn't been talked to by coaches and his parents about the pariahs out there who are willing to sell him down the river?

    He's supposed to be a leader on this team and he's letting everyone down. I think he's a great football player and I'd love to seem him play but I'm tired of the sideshow. He obviously doesn't know how to handle success. He should leave the team, spare himself from in jury in 2013 and prepare for the draft. In other words, start living his life the way he wants and prefers.

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    I think you misunderstand me. I am not an Aggie. I have said similar points to what you said, but overall you go to far. I summarized what he is doing and I don't think it's smart. But I certainly do not think he's doing anything crazy or really bad at all. He's just not being mature for the position he is in.

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    I'll just keep the NCAA bashing on this thread. NCAA using our trademark on the wrong school. Wish we would sue them for it because them.

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    I think you misunderstand me. I am not an Aggie. I have said similar points to what you said, but overall you go to far. I summarized what he is doing and I don't think it's smart. But I certainly do not think he's doing anything crazy or really bad at all. He's just not being mature for the position he is in.
    What did I say that went too far? How can you say his actions aren't self-destructive when his college football playing days may be numbered ? He's ONLY played 1 season and yet he's put himself in enough negative cir stances to last 4. aTm will not win more games without him but they should start grooming someone else to play QB. I think he's going to hurt the team and the fans with his actions and Aggieland is apparently ready to blame the NCAA for its stupid rules. These rules aren't new! They're jacked-up but they've been that way for a long time and JM knew he was breaking them.

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    When you say he is on some self destructive path for simply doing what 99% of college kids do (harmless partying), that is too far. If you want to discuss breaking rules, fine, I agree that its not a team first at ude. You just seem to make him out to be a meth user who murders animals for fun and beats up babies.

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    aTm fans are starving for a National Championship and are willing to make him out to be some innocent kid who is going though learning/growing pains.
    Who said he's innocent? I'm just asking where the proof is. That is all that matters.

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    I don't know any Aggie who thinks he's innocent lol. And certainly nobody is making him out to be some innocent kid. What the are you talking about. Quoting TexAgs doesn't count either. 75% of the board is trolling each other.

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    When you say he is on some self destructive path for simply doing what 99% of college kids do (harmless partying), that is too far. If you want to discuss breaking rules, fine, I agree that its not a team first at ude. You just seem to make him out to be a meth user who murders animals for fun and beats up babies.
    Yeah, I think you misunderstood me. Self-Destructive in terms of his college career and if he's not careful, pro scouts may be turned off as well. That's why I mentioned him needing someone to step in and save him from himself. I have no problem with him partying on occasion - as any college student does - but he's not being smart about it. He has more responsibility as a rep of his team and school than an average student. I just can't imagine what possessed him to go in to the heart of Austin and try to party with a local fraternity. Did he not think it was going to be a problem with the locals? He's not just some Aggie student. It's almost as if he's looking for trouble.

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    Who said he's innocent? I'm just asking where the proof is. That is all that matters.
    I can't stand ESPN but I can't imagine one of their reporters would actually lie about watching a cell phone video of Manziel signing autographs from a broker. That's not the only alleged pay for autographs accusation either. It's the 3rd one. This stuff is going to come out eventually. Someone will pay that broker for the video. Do you think its false or are you hoping the proof isn't strong enough to get him suspended ?

    I'm in favor of him and other college athletes being able to make money by signing their autographs. The NCAA rules are ridiculous but until they are changed, they have to be followed.

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    I can't stand ESPN but I can't imagine one of their reporters would actually lie about watching a cell phone video of Manziel signing autographs from a broker. That's not the only alleged pay for autographs accusation either. It's the 3rd one. This stuff is going to come out eventually. Someone will pay that broker for the video. Do you think its false or are you hoping the proof isn't strong enough to get him suspended ?

    I'm in favor of him and other college athletes being able to make money by signing their autographs. The NCAA rules are ridiculous but until they are changed, they have to be followed.
    There's no solid proof that he has been paid for the autographs. The evidence that has surfaced thus far is not strong enough IMO.

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    There's no solid proof that he has been paid for the autographs.
    Then why not come out and deny signing for $$$ ?

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    Then why not come out and deny signing for $$$ ?
    Saying anything just provides additional words to be twisted and fuels the story.

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    Johnny wants out of College Station badly.

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    Johnny wants out of College Station badly.
    Why

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    Because of bull like tonight.

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    Saying anything just provides additional words to be twisted and fuels the story.
    Saying, "I did not sign autographs for money" twists the story?

    It only fuels the story if he denys it and it turns out he lied.

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